I get rejected at the Gym

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then approach and succeed, wtf is your problem.
You're already posted 2 well said posts that addresses his problem really well if he understood it.

It's a credit to you backseat.

Problem is he's either slow in comprehension or has aspergers like bigdave.

Time to remove urself from this thread buddy. Nothing more can be done here.
 

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Reading this reply, it's quite possible that you ARE coming across as creepy.

That said, women will flock AWAY from you if you are being creepy. As long as you are, as you have admitted, okay with this tactic as an approach, why are you on here complaining about the outcome/their behavior?
You do realize "creepy" is a guy they dont considered attractive looking at them and giving attention?
 

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Ive noticed a weird trend where 9/10 threads look like big Dave threads. These problems don't look like regular guy dating problems...but autistic problems.
You mean Chadlite guy dating problems. Guess there are just two different worlds between the Chadlites and nonChads and nearcels. When this happens things get divided and ugly especially when you start throwing labels around like autism. You are either autistic or you are not. There is no "I am just ausistic with hot women who dont think I am Chad". Does not exist.
 

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The incels need to stop asking for pickup advice and just focus on being great in life. You can't become great with women by trying to become great with women. It doesn't work that way unfortunately. You have to pick some kind of game and try to climb the social ladder. The problem with incels is not their inability to climb. Most of them can. It's literally built into their DNA. But they climb the ladder in games like world of warcraft. Their games are childish and contains no women. Incels are not hopeless. They are childish. They purposely choose games that are of no real consequence.

When you change the games you play, the level of women available changes too. For adult men, the game is social status. Or being a leader. Or contributing to society. All of these game players get rewarded with female affection.

Let's choose the easiest game out of all of these. The game of becoming a leader. You can't lead until you learn to lead yourself. So if a guy focuses on all areas of his life and succeeds at it, he will be fit to be a leader of a tribe one day. And he will attract some women. But this is too much work for some incels. World of warcraft is a lot easier. "But Stormrider, I thought you said let's pick the easiest game?" I meant easiest relative to the other options. Everything requires masculine willpower you buffoon.
I haven't played computer games since the early 90s. MS-DOS games. Lost interest in games around the mid-90s. The rest of what you write of sounds rather blue-pill. In fact, people who think that way, put "getting great with women" on hold, end up like BigDave afterwards. I'm easy to pick-on, but you got other posters on here that have made it, such as RichardtheFrog, or BigDave and either just go after escorts or complain that the only women they can get are damaged goods.
 
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You do realize "creepy" is a guy they dont considered attractive looking at them and giving attention?
No lie, but even an attractive guy, with an initially welcome approach, he can screw it up and get creepy pretty quickly
 

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Blue pill/red pill, those are just labels that guys in the manosphere use. The origin of the red pill was that it was shown to Neo at the time he was still programmed. To someone outside the matrix, there is no blue/red pill. There is only reality. And in reality, guys who make it a life mission to game/impress women are seen as pathetic by women themselves.
I understand what blue-pill/red-pill came from. These labels don't come up in space. It's based on experience and, by now, I guess zeitgeists. However, isn't most of the frustration about women coming from men who have followed blue-pill advice but then end up with stereotypical scenarios that are like textbook MGTOW beta-bux providers to ****-carousel who have hit the wall and alpha-widows because they never had the alpha-male quality traits to attract these women when they were young in the first place? They still can't get the woman they want and talking to eye-candy doesn't cut it when that eye-candy has loads of baggage.

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But guys who focus on themselves and don't care about female validation are impressive to women. That's cold, hard, reality.
That is not the experience in most of the other threads here. The frustration comes from guys who are hitting roadblocks but are following that type of advice. Does this thread come across as frustrating? I'm confused. Some other posters says the thread seems more drugged-out (i.e. the one who said rejection on weed) than frustrated.
 

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I will give you the answer. But in the form of a paradox. Solve this paradox and you will figure out why so many guys are frustrated with women and what they might be able to do about it...

"A pilot can get out of combat duty if he proves that he is psychologically unfit. But anyone who tries to get out of combat duty proves that he is sane."
Even catch-22's are hackneyed.
 

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You can only get women by not needing them. There's no other way.
U r repeating different versions of the same story.

And OP is repeating different versions of the same excuses.

But I enjoying both ur efforts.
 

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I actually googled a bunch of riddles and paradoxes just to try to look cool. But apparently nobody seems to be impressed.....or mind blown lol.
Hahaha

I'm enjoying my morning coffee while having a good laugh at the ur interactions with him.

My morning entertainment before work.
 

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That same night. I left the threadmill and went on the massage chair to cool down after the exercise. My folks were talking to this Turkish lady, and I ended up talking to her as well. We weren't the same religion I felt so I didn't take her too seriously. She was studying law and encouraged me to take an LSAT test as I had an inclination towards being a lawyer. Under the suggestion of my dad, I got her phone number before leaving the gym.

Fast forward a week later. I sent some text follow-up with her (i.e. she said she was at a meeting). However the text exchange was very one-sided (most of the interaction/energy came from my end, but she responded in one lines). I followed-up because my Aunt made that suggestion that I did. Prior to this I was not interested in following-up because she from Turkey and likely Muslim. Since this time I haven't gone to the GYM because the weather got warm and the grass grew very tall. Had to rent a heavy-duty gas lawnmower and have been exercising mowing a lawn full of grass so tall that they look like green wheat and lifting this heavy gas mower up and down a flight of stairs, and walking back and forth to the gas station located a mile out. After all of this outdoor exercise I have stopped going to the GYM for a while.

Soon, as it gets warmer, I may start taking my bike out and doing bike trails and suspending the membership until the weather gets cold again. Maybe I might meet the right girl in a bike trail if I have the guts to stop my bike or synch my bike speed with her jogging speed (and her dog if she's next to one) and chat her up. Guess we'll see how the summer goes.

I find when I choose a trail out in the country, the country gals are usually very cordial and friendly and easy to approach and say hi to compared to city chicks. Perhaps I will meet a very simple country gal out in a trail somewhere out there that is not in a faced paced wavelength. This happened last year where I virtually said hi and connected with almost every lady biking in opposite directions in this country trail unlike the city where attention is usually averted.
 

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Well, imagine a 6 foot long bench, and a woman is sitting on one side, and the rest is free, and you come by and sit right next to her.

Now imagine a public bathroom with 6 urinals, guy is taking a piss in the corner, and you go and take a piss in the urinal right next to him.
Laughing at that
 

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There are two types of behavior that are 'creepy':
  • Behavior that conveys you aren't socially aware to the possibility of rejection (not sensitive enough to rejection)
  • Behavior that you do to mitigate the possibility of rejection (too sensitive to rejection)
Shooting your shot with a girl you like isn't 'creepy,' it's natural. At the gym, at the bank, when she's working, wherever. 'Sneaking around' and 'playing it safe' creates all kinds of negative subcomms that will creep girls out.

As long as you're cool with the possibility of rejection and accept it when it comes your way (as it inevitably will), no one really gives a fvck. If you're in an environment where approaching isn't really normalized (unlike bars or clubs), you can just say something like, "Hey, mind if I make things weird? I saw you and [X, Y, Z]" (acknowledging you're socially aware that what you're doing isn't 'normal'), or "I noticed you staring at me, and [X, Y, Z]" (assume attraction and flipping the pressure on her), etc.

No biggie. You get rejected you smile, give her a high five, and get back to your workout.
 
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