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I kissed her at the end of it but she said I was a bad kisser yet we kissed multiple times. I should have asked her if she was down to fvck but I didn't and now I'm questioning myself as to why I didn't. She emasculated me and turned into my therapist by the end of the night by asking me questions about my past relationships and confronting me about my anxiety.
 

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I'm a pvssy. I have no business dating. I got the kiss by saying "I wanna kiss you." Why didn't I go for sex by saying something similar?
 
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I kissed her at the end of it but she said I was a bad kisser yet we kissed multiple times. I should have asked her if she was down to fvck but I didn't and now I'm questioning myself as to why I didn't. She emasculated me and turned into my therapist by the end of the night by asking me questions about my past relationships and confronting me about my anxiety.
Should had just said, I was going to say the same to you, but I didn't want to offend you. Then leave. That is what you do next. As for your self esteem, you need to see a therapist for that. Perhaps you are depressed and you have a chemical imbalance in you.
 

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Should had just said, I was going to say the same to you, but I didn't want to offend you. Then leave. That is what you do next. As for your self esteem, you need to see a therapist for that. Perhaps you are depressed and you have a chemical imbalance in you.
I am mad that a more dominant man will get her. I feel like a pvssy that I couldn't handle her. She's a really hot black girl.
 

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I'm a pvssy. I have no business dating. I got the kiss by saying "I wanna kiss you." Why didn't I go for sex by saying something similar?
Don’t ask a girl if she’s wants to kiss or have sex. You have to have the belief she already likes you and touch her when ever you feel like it just not in creepy ways or too over the top so she can sense your confidence and thinks ohhh this lad has balls to just touch me like that he must be used to this and thinks he’s better than me so he can do what he wants.
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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Don’t ask a girl if she’s wants to kiss or have sex. You have to have the belief she already likes you and touch her when ever you feel like it just not in creepy ways or too over the top so she can sense your confidence and thinks ohhh this lad has balls to just touch me like that he must be used to this and thinks he’s better than me so he can do what he wants.
She said I wasn't touching her where she wanted to be touched and I was awkward with my hands. She was laughing a lot.
 

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I am mad that a more dominant man will get her. I feel like a pvssy that I couldn't handle her. She's a really hot black girl.
Why do you care? She's done. Move on to the next one. Do not allow it to phase you at all. You need to work on your inner self dude. Work on yourself to better you and the ladies will follow once you are the best version of yourself.
 

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What was the date? And where was you touching her?
The date was the movies. I kissed her when I dropped her off and my hands were awkward at first like I didn't know what to do with them; they were kinda moving around all over the place. My hands finally ended up on her waist which felt better and nice. I kept wanting to kiss her more because I wanted to get to her tongue but I don't think she was allowing that to happen. I lingered a lot in general. To be honest, she saw all of the negative things in me that I see in myself; my quietness, my anxiety, my timidity, my awkwardness. She was actually able to pry into my psyche and get me to confess that I hadn't been with a girl in a year because to her, I seemed so inexperienced. I started questioning in my head in that moment why didn't those relationships work out because I wasn't able to convey that my social skills are so poor that it is very difficult for me to maintain relationships; she didn't seem to understand that, she even seemed like she didn't believe me. In reality, I have only had sex with one woman who I met in the psyche ward and I think that worked out because I was able to just hang back and let her do the work.
 

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Why do you care? She's done. Move on to the next one. Do not allow it to phase you at all. You need to work on your inner self dude. Work on yourself to better you and the ladies will follow once you are the best version of yourself.
How do I work on myself?
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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She told me that she noticed all of the negative traits I see in myself like literally all of them. I was going out of my mind the other night cursing her out on this forum like a psychopath (well I've been a psychiatric inpatient 4 times) because I thought she was trying to take control by changing the venue or possibly flake but I was wrong about that. The real problem is how I conduct myself on dates.
 
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Why do you care? She's done. Move on to the next one. Do not allow it to phase you at all. You need to work on your inner self dude. Work on yourself to better you and the ladies will follow once you are the best version of yourself.
The story of my life is move on to the next one. NO I WANTED THIS ONE!
 

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This girl seems very open and understanding with you, do you know how many girls would have just ghosted you, given no feedback or simply lied and made up some excuse.

Plus, she let you touch and kiss her, she probably wanted you to be more forward with her hence the "you didn't touch me where I wanted to be touched comment".

I think you could still be very direct with her and say you want to bang, might work, might not, nothing to lose.
 

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This girl seems very open and understanding with you, do you know how many girls would have just ghosted you, given no feedback or simply lied and made up some excuse.

Plus, she let you touch and kiss her, she probably wanted you to be more forward with her hence the "you didn't touch me where I wanted to be touched comment".

I think you could still be very direct with her and say you want to bang, might work, might not, nothing to lose.
I see her in class this Tuesday. How do you think I should proceed moving forward? I feel kinda ashamed because there were moments she felt like my therapist but that was only because she was calling me out on so much sh1t that I felt backed into a corner with no other choice than to come clean and spill my guts. Is it too late to resume gaming her like nothing happened?
 

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I see her in class this Tuesday. How do you think I should proceed moving forward? I feel kinda ashamed because there were moments she felt like my therapist but that was only because she was calling me out on so much sh1t that I felt backed into a corner with no other choice than to come clean and spill my guts. Is it too late to resume gaming her like nothing happened?
Just act like nothing happened, make light of it and invite her to your place to drink, watch a movie or eat.

Black girls are generally more direct which works in your favour here because you don't have to lie/be secretive about your situation and this girl seems like she read you very well and didn't run a mile right?
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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We kissed for real but right before going back to her dorm, she wanted to say goodbye with a hug or a kiss on the cheek. I don't know what the fvck is going on all I know is that it's 4:00 am in New York and I will not be sleeping at all tonight. I have to write a paper, rehearse a presentation, and study tomorrow all on no sleep. Not good...
 

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Just act like nothing happened, make light of it and invite her to your place to drink, watch a movie or eat.

Black girls are generally more direct which works in your favour here because you don't have to lie/be secretive about your situation and this girl seems like she read you very well and didn't run a mile right?
Correct. I'm gonna go with what you are saying even though I know by tomorrow I'm gonna get hit with a ton of negativity on this forum like I usually do. Thanks.
 

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Correct. I'm gonna go with what you are saying even though I know by tomorrow I'm gonna get hit with a ton of negativity on this forum like I usually do. Thanks.
No I think you started this thread rambling like a psychopath, but you've actually gone on the date, got a kiss and had a somewhat productive conversation with this girl so I think you've done well considering you posted "I'm gonna die" in your opening rambling.

Chin up!
 

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This girl seems very open and understanding with you, do you know how many girls would have just ghosted you, given no feedback or simply lied and made up some excuse.

Plus, she let you touch and kiss her, she probably wanted you to be more forward with her hence the "you didn't touch me where I wanted to be touched comment".

I think you could still be very direct with her and say you want to bang, might work, might not, nothing to lose.
You ever heard of shadow work?
 

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I am mad that a more dominant man will get her. I feel like a pvssy that I couldn't handle her. She's a really hot black girl.
Sounds like you are severely lacking in confidence and have a belief if you were more dominant you would automatically be more confident. That is not how it works imho.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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