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Yea the roads, schools, and medicine for grandma. Horrible things they are...
Federal taxes pay for ZERO social services. All it does is pay down the federal debt. News flash: the federal debt can NEVER be paid off.
 

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Middle ground fallacy.

Without cities, rural America would be completely deserted. Rural areas and states are in fact the leeches. The coasts + Chicago & Texas basically is the US economy, thus the source of funds.
To use your words, NOPE.

I was actually agreeing with you, you no reading comprehension having mfer. Did you not see where I said the cities would control everything if left to the people?

You want to help the poor people, but yet you also want to throw rural America, where the least of the wealth is, under the bus. So you're saying you do NOT want redistribution of wealth.

We all know what you want. You are the real racist here. You aren't fooling anybody, Mr. Reparations.
 
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Elderly -Before social security, elderly poverty was rampant. Capitalists would throw grandma off a cliff if they could get away with it.

Health care - the U.S. health care system sucks for everyone who isn't wealthy.
Literally the only thing I agree with dems on is infrastructure, so I'll just concentrate on these two items.

I'd hate for grandma to take care of herself. That's simply too much to ask isn't it, hahaha.

Health care? Oh dear. The freaking poor have FREE health care right now. Your idiot lib-tard lawyer pals are the ones who ruined health care, suing the sh*t out of every doctor who practices.
 

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Literally the only thing I agree with dems on is infrastructure, so I'll just concentrate on these two items.

I'd hate for grandma to take care of herself. That's simply too much to ask isn't it, hahaha.

Health care? Oh dear. The freaking poor have FREE health care right now. Your idiot lib-tard lawyer pals are the ones who ruined health care, suing the sh*t out of every doctor who practices.
You'll never get anywhere debating with goofballs like eyezberollin or biblebelt. One is addicted to gibz and the other is a brainwashed guilty white liberal who will say and do anything to facilitate the destruction of their own race.
 

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a brainwashed guilty white liberal who will say and do anything to facilitate the destruction of their own race.
How do you make those pointy white hats out of your bed sheets? Is that starch that holds those things up? Don't get too close to the cross at the rally. Those outfits look quite flammable.
 

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Liberal logic: Fighting for your tribes right to survive is equivalent to the KKK.

1. If they cannot counter the logic, they attack the person.
2. If that doesn't silence them, they push for censorship.
Upon further review, it looks like Grand Poobah stole the hat design from the church. Check out the height some of those dudes get with their hat points. There has ro be some wire in there:
 

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I love the desperation. Soon he will call for censorship again

Submit to the murder of your tribe! Lest I deem thee racist!!!

Can't fight that logic. <eyeroll>
He did some master level concern trolling the other day, saying we would all be fired for posting all this nazi propaganda. Definitely getting desperate.
 

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To use your words, NOPE.

I was actually agreeing with you, you no reading comprehension having mfer. Did you not see where I said the cities would control everything if left to the people?

You want to help the poor people, but yet you also want to throw rural America, where the least of the wealth is, under the bus. So you're saying you do NOT want redistribution of wealth.

We all know what you want. You are the real racist here. You aren't fooling anybody, Mr. Reparations.
My disdain for rural America is their outsized political power because of the stupid ass Senate. Does anyone really think Wyoming should have as much power as New York, Texas, and California?

If we get that discrepancy fixed, I’d have no problem helping rural America. It just shouldn’t come at such an expense to states that actually produce.
 

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My disdain for rural America is their outsized political power because of the stupid ass Senate. Does anyone really think Wyoming should have as much power as New York, Texas, and California?

If we get that discrepancy fixed, I’d have no problem helping rural America. It just shouldn’t come at such an expense to states that actually produce.
LOL, just like whites and asians should not have to foot the bill for lazy blacks and hispanics and native americans looking for endless gub'ment handouts. Reparations and sheeeiit!
 

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How do you make those pointy white hats out of your bed sheets? Is that starch that holds those things up? Don't get too close to the cross at the rally. Those outfits look quite flammable.
Yeah, you're the doofus who claimed Michael Jackson was a white supremacist klansmen. No one with even a single brain cell thinks that makes sense.
 

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Literally the only thing I agree with dems on is infrastructure, so I'll just concentrate on these two items.

I'd hate for grandma to take care of herself. That's simply too much to ask isn't it, hahaha.

Health care? Oh dear. The freaking poor have FREE health care right now. Your idiot lib-tard lawyer pals are the ones who ruined health care, suing the sh*t out of every doctor who practices.
90 year old grandma can’t take care of herself. We know you she’s just an inconvenience for you.
 

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90 year old grandma can’t take care of herself. We know you she’s just an inconvenience for you.
She can't save for retirement, just like me? Social Security is about MONEY, not the physical act of taking care of someone. I have no problem allowing an elderly family member to live with me and take care of their physical needs. Funding their chosen lifestyle is a different story.
 

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@EyeBRollin

You never answered my questions here.

1. I wasn't making an argument, I am recognizing we have different definitions of success and failure. This should be obvious to people.

2. What "complete collapse" are you talking about regarding the rail indistry? And why do you consider that a "failure" of private industry?
Because the goal of infrastructure isn’t profit, it’s to provide necessary logistical services to society. Infrastructure is collectivist goal. Private industry has competing interests here.
 

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She can't save for retirement, just like me? Social Security is about MONEY, not the physical act of taking care of someone. I have no problem allowing an elderly family member to live with me and take care of their physical needs. Funding their chosen lifestyle is a different story.
By lifestyle you mean making it so elderly people aren’t homeless? What lifestyle are you referring to?
 

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Tell us more about the Jews.
^^ Has nothing to do with anything.

Talk about out of left field. That's from across the whole sports complex and over on the soccer fields.

To reiterate, the real debate here has concluded. This banter now is simply entertainment.
 

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By lifestyle you mean making it so elderly people aren’t homeless? What lifestyle are you referring to?
No. I mean you live within your means. Not someone else's.

While I do believe Granny should have maybe purchased her own home and saved money for her elderly years, I do understand she might need help moving around and wiping her ass. But I am not entitled to take her out to eat and buy that house for her. She can stay with me if I have room.

The argument you libs like to throw around is morality, but it's total nonsense. The true immorality here is expecting someone to take care of you when you had ample chances to do it yourself, the Bible even references that. Just because the government forces us to pay for people doesn't change that.

Then you support abortion. Talk about irony.
 

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No. I mean you live within your means. Not someone else's.

While I do believe Granny should have maybe purchased her own home and saved money for her elderly years, I do understand she might need help moving around and wiping her ass. But I am not entitled to take her out to eat and buy that house for her. She can stay with me if I have room.

The argument you libs like to throw around is morality, but it's total nonsense. The true immorality here is expecting someone to take care of you when you had ample chances to do it yourself, the Bible even references that. Just because the government forces us to pay for people doesn't change that.
Straight from the horse's mouth. It's "nonsense" to not want poor elderly folks dying in the street. Like I said earlier, you would rather just throw grandma off a cliff.

Then you support abortion. Talk about irony.
Another strawman argument. No one supports abortion. "Liberals" support a woman's right to choose if that is an appropriate option for her. Aren't you right wingers about choice and keeping the government out of people's lives?
 

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Straight from the horse's mouth. It's "nonsense" to not want poor elderly folks dying in the street. Like I said earlier, you would rather just throw grandma off a cliff.
Another reading comprehension fail. I was saying your morality was nonsense.

I've stated my position on Granny thoroughly.

Another strawman argument. No one supports abortion. "Liberals" support a woman's right to choose if that is an appropriate option for her. Aren't you right wingers about choice and keeping the government out of people's lives?
It's only a strawman if I use it to draw attention away from the point. I confronted your point head-on.

The abortion part was just laughing at liberal logic.

And me personally, I would much rather give out a choice of free sterilization than I would a choice of murder. But I guess that is too.....moral. :rofl:
 
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