countries without internet.
honestly, be the monad, create and mold your reality instead of looking for one that already exists; that's the henid way.
I appriciate your no nonsenss answer, and you are partly correct. We can always improve ourself, no matter what.The "there are no quality women here so I need to go somewhere else" is a myth.
Here's how the con generally works.
Water seeks its own level.
Naturally high quality men attract naturally high quality women.
Low quality men tend to externalize and believe the problems is with the MARKET and not them, and fail to admit their own low quality.
These low quality men (who believe they are high quality) go to a foreign country and meet EQUALLY low quality women.
But since these low-quality-women have a kind of "halo effect" associated with a foreign culture, of thinking you are being very clever to go to a foreign country, beat the system, etc., you THINK they are high quality.
When in reality, they are low quality, just like you.
So by going to another country to find a "unspoiled woman" you are, in reality, getting a woman of equal quality, but can effectively BELIEVE you are a HIGH QUALITY MAN who outsmarted the corrupt system and got himself a HIGH QUALITY WOMAN.
We humans will go to great lengths to deceive ourselves in order to protect our fragile ego.
Consider that might not exist.I want a loyal loving woman, with human traits...
It dosen't really matter what skill set you have, if your millionere or moviestar.Consider that might not exist.
At least in the "set and forget" that most guys think.
To keep a woman "loyal" you need to maintain value. You need to maintain the relationship. You need to be able to read and measure and increase her attraction of need be.
This "thing" you are looking for, and likely think that once you "get" it, you'll somehow keep "it," is not realistic.
Consider instead to look for a woman/relationship that is within your skill level of management.
I would suggest that divorce rates are high everywhere since most men STILL have the "set and forget" mindset.
At least more so than women.
What is quality?The "there are no quality women here so I need to go somewhere else" is a myth.
Here's how the con generally works.
Water seeks its own level.
Naturally high quality men attract naturally high quality women.
Low quality men tend to externalize and believe the problems is with the MARKET and not them, and fail to admit their own low quality.
These low quality men (who believe they are high quality) go to a foreign country and meet EQUALLY low quality women.
But since these low-quality-women have a kind of "halo effect" associated with a foreign culture, of thinking you are being very clever to go to a foreign country, beat the system, etc., you THINK they are high quality.
When in reality, they are low quality, just like you.
So by going to another country to find a "unspoiled woman" you are, in reality, getting a woman of equal quality, but can effectively BELIEVE you are a HIGH QUALITY MAN who outsmarted the corrupt system and got himself a HIGH QUALITY WOMAN.
We humans will go to great lengths to deceive ourselves in order to protect our fragile ego.
None of that is what makes a woman give herself over to you. It all looks nice at first glance, but they ultimately don't give a sh!t about it. If you have a crap personality then all women will treat you the way you perceive them treating you.Yeah I could loose 2 kilo, I'm 186cm no shoes, 71 kilo weight, blond half long hair, with green eyes, normal looking, I exercise, meditate, read, bicycle, live on my own, love cooking, I go trackday racing, travel a lot, I don't drink alcohol, have an italian superbike, sportscar and an everyday car, all paid cash. More than double avarage salery. 35 yr old. But yes I could do better...
You're playing games, that's never a good thing. You shouldn't have to do any of that sh!t. I don't do all that sh!t and I have effortlessly been with my GF almost 4 years now, it's been great so far. Just so you know, I'm Norwegian and she's Norwegian. If you think it's different here, think again, plenty of guys like you here too. What I notice though is how I act and think differently from guys like you, women treat me differently (better) from guys like you.I piss her off once in a while, just so she get her emotional bull. I make her a little jealous sometimes. I treat her with respect. I do break her attempt of controlling me. I say f you when she needs it (or I think she needs it). I kiss her every night when I go to bed. I hug her. Make lunch for her work. Miss calls on purpose to make her think the worst. I buy her flowers sometimes.. All this crap to make her desire..
How long is a stick?What is quality?
I perfer a quiet approach to life, I'm introverted, monogam. But women need's a bit of action, and resistance once in a while, or they get boring.None of that is what makes a woman give herself over to you. It all looks nice at first glance, but they ultimately don't give a sh!t about it. If you have a crap personality then all women will treat you the way you perceive them treating you.
You're playing games, that's never a good thing. You shouldn't have to do any of that sh!t. I don't do all that sh!t and I have effortlessly been with my GF almost 4 years now, it's been great so far. Just so you know, I'm Norwegian and she's Norwegian. If you think it's different here, think again, plenty of guys like you here too. What I notice though is how I act and think differently from guys like you, women treat me differently (better) from guys like you.
I'm 1cm higher than you, 20kg heavier than you, I don't exercise, I don't read much, I don't bicycle, I do drink alcohol (sometimes lots), have no superbike, no sportscar, my GF owns the every day car and my salary is just above average. According to your parameters I should be a nobody who women will disrespect without thinking twice. That is however not the case, most women are nice to me.
Your bitterness is probably leaking out, you should consider becoming a professional actor if you manage to completely hide it, because that's HARD! They notice and faster than you think they'll make out what type you are and act accordingly.
I haven't seen a guy who thinks there's better women elsewhere ever manage to understand my perspective, so I'm not holding my breath for you having a sudden realization here, but maybe someone less hellbent on hating women will turn around before they start considering converting to Islam or something else stupid.
How long is a stick?
I go racing with sundby racing from norway, here in spain, I like the quiet easy going norway people. And you have nice women too norway people is not known for drama, and conflicts, I have freinds that work there too, and they say the same. Average salery in norway is good, and you know it.. average salery in spain is 700-800 € for normal jobs in the coast line, not contry side jobs. 50% of people under 25 yr old don't have jobs here.None of that is what makes a woman give herself over to you. It all looks nice at first glance, but they ultimately don't give a sh!t about it. If you have a crap personality then all women will treat you the way you perceive them treating you.
You're playing games, that's never a good thing. You shouldn't have to do any of that sh!t. I don't do all that sh!t and I have effortlessly been with my GF almost 4 years now, it's been great so far. Just so you know, I'm Norwegian and she's Norwegian. If you think it's different here, think again, plenty of guys like you here too. What I notice though is how I act and think differently from guys like you, women treat me differently (better) from guys like you.
I'm 1cm higher than you, 20kg heavier than you, I don't exercise, I don't read much, I don't bicycle, I do drink alcohol (sometimes lots), have no superbike, no sportscar, my GF owns the every day car and my salary is just above average. According to your parameters I should be a nobody who women will disrespect without thinking twice. That is however not the case, most women are nice to me.
Your bitterness is probably leaking out, you should consider becoming a professional actor if you manage to completely hide it, because that's HARD! They notice and faster than you think they'll make out what type you are and act accordingly.
I haven't seen a guy who thinks there's better women elsewhere ever manage to understand my perspective, so I'm not holding my breath for you having a sudden realization here, but maybe someone less hellbent on hating women will turn around before they start considering converting to Islam or something else stupid.
How long is a stick?
Armenia, yes I hear more traditional, yet not as big culture difference as asia. But they marry early, so not too much choices. But I been thinking about going there before.. yeah, beautiful womenArmenia! The women never age. Skin like gold. Loyal bl0wjobs daily for decades on end!!!!
Yes no internet, no social media, no tv.. someone with their own mind
Could you deepen a little on this?
Mold and create? Mgtow.. or do you honestly think we can change a woman to have human traits again, behave decently?
I was thinking good old fashion woman traits.. someone who can love a man
Cheers
I hear you but let me offer a slightly different view. Sometimes it really is just the market. When I leave the DMV ( Washington DC area) my success shoots up immensely. On the West Coast its significantly easier to maintain a relationship. The midwest is a cake walk and Florida is much easier to get girls. When foreign girls used to flood DC in the summertime me and my friends would do very well because their demeanor was just easier.The "there are no quality women here so I need to go somewhere else" is a myth.
Here's how the con generally works.
Water seeks its own level.
Naturally high quality men attract naturally high quality women.
Low quality men tend to externalize and believe the problems is with the MARKET and not them, and fail to admit their own low quality.
These low quality men (who believe they are high quality) go to a foreign country and meet EQUALLY low quality women.
But since these low-quality-women have a kind of "halo effect" associated with a foreign culture, of thinking you are being very clever to go to a foreign country, beat the system, etc., you THINK they are high quality.
When in reality, they are low quality, just like you.
So by going to another country to find a "unspoiled woman" you are, in reality, getting a woman of equal quality, but can effectively BELIEVE you are a HIGH QUALITY MAN who outsmarted the corrupt system and got himself a HIGH QUALITY WOMAN.
We humans will go to great lengths to deceive ourselves in order to protect our fragile ego.
Point taken.I hear you but let me offer a slightly different view. Sometimes it really is just the market. When I leave the DMV ( Washington DC area) my success shoots up immensely. On the West Coast its significantly easier to maintain a relationship. The midwest is a cake walk and Florida is much easier to get girls. When foreign girls used to flood DC in the summertime me and my friends would do very well because their demeanor was just easier.
Another point of evidence that its the markets fault is that most of these chicks are not in successful relationship regardless of who they date. They can date high quality males and they still mess it up.
I do agree though that much of the complaining on this forum is us guys not wanting to become better. But I also know that the other half of the equation is that American women are ruined.
Right I agree. I agree that most issues in life are a reflection of our inner state. A person needs to take full responsibility for their lack of success or else they will NEVER get out of that rut. In my New Age spiritual practice we literally believe that the universe molds to your inner dialogue. If you think that everyone sucks, then it will become a self fulfilling prophecy.Point taken.
There are always two sides to the "the problem is the market" issue.
But from a self-development standpoint, once you accept the problem is with the market and not you, you are simultaneously giving up on any further improvements.
Even if the market does suck, you can still improve your results in that crappy market.
And since dating is EXTREMELY subjective, much more so than things being bought and sold on an ACTUAL MARKET, using metaphors can only take you so far.
One guy might go out with a girl who treats him like crap, and then he comes to the conclusion this is an effect of a bad market. But it also could be due ONLY to very low interest.
Another guy might date the same girl, and be treated like a king because of high interest.
The same girl will treat a homeless guy much different than a guy she has HIGH interest in.
Then there's the self-esteem, likelihood of self-sabotage on the female's part, which is a completely different set of variables.
BUT even if you can find a girl with decent self esteem, you must be able to create HIGH INTEREST in that girl, which most guys unfortunately can't.
Most dudes won't even CONSIDER these points if their first reaction to lack of success is to search for some mysterious county filled with high quality women just BEGGING for a guy with a pulse to come rescue them.
lolol....yeh I never thought about that. But I have lived in a "3rd world" ****hole for a couple years and you get used to it. You lose a lot of weight, eat healthier etc. I didn't mind it too much. You also can live like a king compared to local standards if you build a house out there after having saved up enough American dollars.If you're planning on marrying a foreign girl and bringing her back to the west, she'll adopt western culture and turn into a THOT.... If you marry a foreign girl and live in her country, you'll be living in a sh1thole....
Sorry, I wouldn't recommend giving up US citizenship (or any western citizenship) for a woman.