Walking away is soley Masculine and the ultimate trump card

soulforge

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 1, 2013
Messages
6,189
Reaction score
4,933
Well yeah to me that isn’t the same as getting blindsided by it when you thought things were going well, minus a few red flags here and there. I got dumped by one girl because I think she saw me as “soft”, I think I projected the “good guy”(not nice guy!) image and she’d never dated that. She used to love to brag about the time she went skydiving and I guess that was her measure of “badassness”. We’d planned to go and I told her I’d do it but looking back now she probably was thinking “yeah right”. What did I do? I went on my own a few months after she dumped me. She jumped at 8500 feet, I jumped TWICE, once at 8500 feet and another at 9500. Posted the pics and videos on Facebook and she saw them. I was scared outta my ass when I jumped but when he said go I didn’t even hesitate like some people to, I jumped out that ***** like I was jumping into a pool. I was terrified the whole way down but it was fun. I basically did it to throw that **** back in her face because she’d only done it once and I did it twice. Just because you’re a decent guy that doesn’t **** on everyone doesn’t mean you don’t habe a streak of badass in you. I think she got the message, she tried to get me to meet up with her later on “to talk” but I was like **** off.

To me a devastating dumping would be because of the following reasons.

01. You was still totally into the girl
02. You was highly attracted to her
03. The sex was still good or even great
04. You had the possibility of an actual long term relationship with her.


For me NONE of the above apply... This is why I have been tempted to turn this around to a mutual dumping.

If she wanted back tomorrow, I know for a fact i would not entertain her.
 

Bokanovsky

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 7, 2012
Messages
4,829
Reaction score
4,505
But make no mistake about it and don't get confused. The ability to walk away from a woman after you've banged her and while her IL is still high is the ultimate F you. The kiss of death if you will to her Ego. Even if she never contacts you again, you can be sure you have shook her up.
Wanting to crush her ego and to “shake her up” means that you are hurt and out for revenge. IMO, this is not the right attitude to have.

You shouldn't even care about what happens to her ego. It shouldn’t matter if she is going to be "shaken up" by your decision to dump her. You should be walking away because it's the best option for you at the moment, not because you want to stick it to her or "win" in some stupid game of “I dumped you first”. You walk away because you are ready to move on to bigger and better things. You walk away because you’ve reached a point in time when staying with her has become less beneficial to you than leaving. It's a positive event, not a negative one. It has nothing to do with revenge or trying to crush her ego or having leverage. Once you cultivate this mindset, you will truly stop giving a fvck and liberate your mind from the toxic BS that women try to poison it with.
 

RickTheToad

Moderator
Joined
Apr 21, 2018
Messages
6,555
Reaction score
5,082
Location
Bridgeport, CT
I made the mistake once of not leaving for good only for her to dog me again and leave me for good. When I initially left I know for certain it was a huge blow to her ego. When she left me shortly after I could tell how happy she was to have won this game. I will never make that mistake again.

I've had women tell me they are always the ones who did the dumping with a smile on their face. Or the women tells me how the relationships that hurt them the most were the ones where the guy left him with the saddest face. Im sure the guys that left them were when the girls were at their peak interest level. Women never forget the guys that dumped them but are easy to forget the ones where they did the dumping.

I can tell you that it was the most painful mistakes I ever made in my life when it comes to women. Even looking back causes me to feel shame in myself. If I had left for good when I tried I would have saved myself a lot of pain and heartache. Instead she ended up doing me wrong and leaving me with zero phukes and a smile on her face that she won. When initially broke up with her I did in fact feel a big rush of musicality, happiness and relief. I wont deny it hurts sometimes looking back at how weak I was. But all I can do is learn from my mistake and repeat it. I broke up with the last chick and never contacted her again and I felt amazing afterwards. Imo I think it hurts both male and female in that situation.
Don't be hard on yourself Stovetop. I did the same thing a few months ago. I left the b!tch and two weeks later, she apologized and we got back together just for her to say a few weeks later we should see other people and each other. When I said no, she backtracked again, but I blocked her and never heard from her again. Not going to say it stung a bit, but what can you do. I've had a few others since then, but I find it harder for myself to bond with them. Hopefully, it's only temporarily. Trust and honesty is very important to me. But as Chris Brown says, these hoes are not loyal and cannot be trusted. Monogamous relationships are thing of the past it seems.
 
Last edited:

RickTheToad

Moderator
Joined
Apr 21, 2018
Messages
6,555
Reaction score
5,082
Location
Bridgeport, CT
For me getting dumped is a better motivator than me dumping someone. Sure it’s a kick to the ego and you feel like you are a loser but then you get pissed off and think “I’ll show this *****!” but only let that get you motivated, don’t let be the sole reason to KEEP you motivated.
Doesn't matter. If you care about the lady, it still hurts. I've actually stayed around in the past (while entertaining other options) waiting for the lady to dump me. There's a part of me that doesn't like to hurt a person unnecessarily. However, I get no joy out of walking away or dumping a lady. My annulment was bitter sweet, and I take responsibility on that. Hence the reason why I reversed course so quickly.
 

Robert28

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 27, 2008
Messages
5,103
Reaction score
5,434
Doesn't matter. If you care about the lady, it still hurts. I've actually stayed around in the past (while entertaining other options) waiting for the lady to dump me. There's a part of me that doesn't like to hurt a person unnecessarily. However, I get no joy out of walking away or dumping a lady. My annulment was bitter sweet, and I take responsibility on that. Hence the reason why I reversed course so quickly.
I’m the same way. If someone is clearly trying to get rid of me I don’t make it hard for them. One girl I dated never would come right out and dump me and I guess I could have pushed her to do so, but I didn’t need that closure. I knew what she was trying to do so I got the message and left her alone. What’s weird is even though we never officially broke up, she ended up coming back months later for reasons unknown.
 

RickTheToad

Moderator
Joined
Apr 21, 2018
Messages
6,555
Reaction score
5,082
Location
Bridgeport, CT
I’m the same way. If someone is clearly trying to get rid of me I don’t make it hard for them. One girl I dated never would come right out and dump me and I guess I could have pushed her to do so, but I didn’t need that closure. I knew what she was trying to do so I got the message and left her alone. What’s weird is even though we never officially broke up, she ended up coming back months later for reasons unknown.
This one above backtracked when I said no. I had another one backtrack on a break, but once the damage is done, it's done. I can no longer trust you. While it may be true that neither were fvcking around, there's always that possibility; and I cannot disrespect myself like that. I also take a FWB step down from an exclusive relationship or a break a sign of disrespect; so if I even entertained it, it would be a failure anyway because she'd lose respect for me as she'll be the one driving the relationship; not me. Either way, I was fvcked, so I walked away.

A wise man once told me, your gut or first instinct and feeling is usually the correct one since it's a sixth sense. When my gut tell me something is up, I get ready to jet.
 

Trump

Banned
Joined
Mar 12, 2011
Messages
3,032
Reaction score
1,677
But make no mistake about it and don't get confused. The ability to walk away from a woman after you've banged her and while her IL is still high is the ultimate F you. The kiss of death if you will to her Ego. Even if she never contacts you again, you can be sure you have shook her up.

Please do this fellas. If not for yourself, for future generations of men who will come. There has to be a reset here. Again, it WILL f*ck her up. Don't underestimate the power that you put back into the universe by having STRICT standards with women. And don't let women walking away get under your skin. Just think of Heath Ledger and Christian Bale in that aforementioned scene.
The only way I would walk away from a woman is if she was harassing me or manipulating me or a drain on my resources. But to walk away when your interest level is high and her interest level is high and you enjoy sleeping with her, just to mess her up? That’s dumb.

Remember men, you have to have standards, but no woman in 2019 in North America is going to be a housewife/sex servant and agree with your every wish. I would recommend having a few rules you can’t break; such as 1) no talking to exes and 2) she has to have her own place to live. But if she’s in love with you and does most things you like, stick with her.

Unless of course you are a top player on Sosuave, then the good looking, young, attractive, educated sexy women can be found at 7-11.
 

lamath

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
2,739
Reaction score
2,671
Age
43
Location
Canada
The only way I would walk away from a woman is if she was harassing me or manipulating me or a drain on my resources. But to walk away when your interest level is high and her interest level is high and you enjoy sleeping with her, just to mess her up? That’s dumb.

Remember men, you have to have standards, but no woman in 2019 in North America is going to be a housewife/sex servant and agree with your every wish. I would recommend having a few rules you can’t break; such as 1) no talking to exes and 2) she has to have her own place to live. But if she’s in love with you and does most things you like, stick with her.

Unless of course you are a top player on Sosuave, then the good looking, young, attractive, educated sexy women can be found at 7-11.
Very good post i agree with it

And i really like the idea of personal rules
 

DEEZEDBRAH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 24, 2017
Messages
6,096
Reaction score
4,852
Age
34
#metoo is typically a anhry bunch of women who have hit the wall and Hollywood stopped calling. Many of whom had sold their vaginas for movie roles and now want to parade around with morality.
 

DEEZEDBRAH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 24, 2017
Messages
6,096
Reaction score
4,852
Age
34
You can think this way and I think it's healthy for you to do so. But women generally do not walk away from a man when their IL is high. If she left you, she dgaf about you and whether or not you contact her ever again. She probably found another man also who's cumming in her mouth and fvcking her in the ass.

Women don't care about sex like they used to. They give it away freely to any chad or tyrone or whatever generalization you want to make for the top 20% of men. If you are in that group, she wasn't yours it was only your turn.

Not reaching out to her is more self preservation thing. You can walk away with your head held high knowing you have other options and you didn't beg, and she will never hear from you again. It's the only proper response when someone removes themselves from your life
Its a means of disassociattion. N/c is disassociattion on tren.

Its seeded in women mistaking what is attractive in a man is the same as for women. It is not.

Its portrayal of how disconnected women are. Its not anything but delusional.

Its why #nextSet is Goat status. Women don't want to cash in, go all in, and they will have consequences for the poor lifestyle choices.
 

lamath

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
2,739
Reaction score
2,671
Age
43
Location
Canada
Its a means of disassociattion. N/c is disassociattion on tren.

Its seeded in women mistaking what is attractive in a man is the same as for women. It is not.

Its portrayal of how disconnected women are. Its not anything but delusional.

Its why #nextSet is Goat status. Women don't want to cash in, go all in, and they will have consequences for the poor lifestyle choices.
Biggest issue i have now, women thinking that whats attractive in a man is the same.for a women.

Idgaf if she have a career
Idgaf if she drives a bike
Idgaf if she can do mechanics
Idgaf if she is a hunter

We just want a decent looking problem free women that is not looking for finacial support.
 

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,885
Reaction score
12,121
Location
DFW, TX
Biggest issue i have now, women thinking that whats attractive in a man is the same.for a women.

Idgaf if she have a career
Idgaf if she drives a bike
Idgaf if she can do mechanics
Idgaf if she is a hunter

We just want a decent looking problem free women that is not looking for finacial support.
Whatif she doesnt need financial support nut she wants a loving and stable dude to emotionally support her while she fvcks a whole bunch of guys.
 

SoSuave666

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 9, 2012
Messages
1,125
Reaction score
873
Biggest issue i have now, women thinking that whats attractive in a man is the same.for a women.

Idgaf if she have a career
Idgaf if she drives a bike
Idgaf if she can do mechanics
Idgaf if she is a hunter

We just want a decent looking problem free women that is not looking for finacial support.
I go back and forth with women all the time on this. A woman's job and drive are like 100th on the list of things I look for in a woman. I just want her to look good/fit and cause no problems.

I find women with careers/advanced degrees are the most masculine, combative, and generally unhappy group of females on the planet. I can only date one of them for 3-6 months then I get exhausted and stop talking to them. These girls usually have been hopping around from guy to guy trampling over them being masculine as all hell and demanding sh!t. Kill counts in the 50s if not higher. It's disgusting honestly
 

DEEZEDBRAH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 24, 2017
Messages
6,096
Reaction score
4,852
Age
34
Biggest issue i have now, women thinking that whats attractive in a man is the same.for a women.

Idgaf if she have a career
Idgaf if she drives a bike
Idgaf if she can do mechanics
Idgaf if she is a hunter

We just want a decent looking problem free women that is not looking for finacial support.
The problem is that, women are hardwired to hypergamy, to seek alpha male and secondary beta cuck provider at epiphany phase. There's no NAWALT. She mau or may not act upon it but, she's primed for it. She is socialised to act upon it without conscience or a single after thought.

I am curious about the god father and his idea for neutralise hypergamy?

From my experience, dating younger and willingness to walk is Goat status. There's always younger and hotter. Female SMV has a very short shelf life. It is usually too late when women seek settling down.
 

DEEZEDBRAH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 24, 2017
Messages
6,096
Reaction score
4,852
Age
34
I go back and forth with women all the time on this. A woman's job and drive are like 100th on the list of things I look for in a woman. I just want her to look good/fit and cause no problems.
Agreed but, I am beginning to shift gears. If he4 highest value is career, I am turned off. I refuse to be a simp and plow horse.

I find women with careers/advanced degrees are the most masculine, combative, and generally unhappy group of females on the planet. I can only date one of them for 3-6 months then I get exhausted and stop talking to them. These girls usually have been hopping around from guy to guy trampling over them being masculine as all hell and demanding sh!t. Kill counts in the 50s if not higher. It's disgusting honestly
They tend to have a ****ty opinion of men given the piñata treatment during best years. I hrar the way they dpeak of men, fathers, husbands and its appalling. Rollo suggests young men go full boar entrepreneurship. Aaron clarey is suggest that same thing. Its not necessarily the case that, all of these men will be the next Zuck or bezzo/bozo lulz.

Instead, its implied that the alpha males will trend set. I am predicting an abundance of mgtow and or bachelors. Incels too but its a laughing point for ****s but, also a shaming tactic men are being aware of.

I am admittedly saying, I began the journey of DJ and pua to acquire 1. Options 2. Vet a wife and mother of my children. I have acquired something more valuable in knowledge and more importantly, wisdom. I have seeked self knowledge, explored consciousness, and aiming for self actualization. The mark being what Hulse calls, strongest version of self (mind, body, spirit).


This is the absolute greatest time to be a bachelor in the history of mankind. Women actually are delusional in believing cratered SMV as a booty call is empowering.

Enjoy the decline gentlemen.
 
Top