Women wanting sex rather than me go down on them.

[Mike32ct]

It’s probably just some residual “blue pill” advice still stuck in guys’ heads, including my own.

“Go down on her first. As long as you make her kum that way, it won’t matter how good or bad your performance is with intercourse. She’ll think you’re a great lover.”

Haha. Yeah right lol.

 

[Rainman4707]

Well there is actually a book called "she comes first"
I have been told give her an orgasm first
I have tried getting some women off using my fingers, but I don't think they have ever came. Lately one of them was really turned on by my foreplay & fingering & just wanted me to fu*k her.
I have asked women in the past " you can go to bathroom freshen up if you like, but they will probably do this themselves anyway.

 

[Rainman4707]

I think women coming has a lot to do with mental side of things.
I know my ex had to feel relaxed & comfortable before she could *** from my ****oral stimulation. As soon as she came the first time, she came everytime.

Went down on a woman about a month ago, her **** seemed harder to find. I was shocked. I know where the **** is, but seemed to struggle to find this one. She has had four kids. I probably did hit it, but maybe to much pressure to early for her on her **** as she didn't seem comfortable with me doing it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Of course she doesn't want you to. Think of it this way: You're a girl. You meet a guy you determine is above you to the extent that you want his genetic material for the purposes of procreation. Then this guy gets down on his hands & fvcking knees for the express purpose of pleasuring you. There are few, if any, behaviors less arousing.

However, what this kinda behavior lacks in the arousal factor, it makes up for in ego-gratification; so of course some girls will ask for or demand it, especially after she's no longer that aroused by you to begin with. Personally, I flat out won't do it. If a girl's really into you, she doesn't need foreplay. Plus, you shouldn't make a girl's orgasm a measure of your self worth

So all the females complaining about not being made to orgasm during sex are full of it? They just want to pleasure us dont care if they get off or not.

 

[sazc]

So all the females complaining about not being made to orgasm during sex are full of it? They just want to pleasure us dont care if they get off or not.

Uhhh hell no

 

[fastlife]

So all the females complaining about not being made to orgasm during sex are full of it? They just want to pleasure us dont care if they get off or not.

I think girls who have that complaint are, for whatever reason, with guys who they're just not all that aroused by. And, as a guy in that situation, there's not just some magic combination of move your tongue left, right, and center to change that. Also, IME most girls get off by the act of getting a high value guy off.

Here, I'm sure some people could counter with, "Well, some girls just can't get off from penetration or need a high degree of comfort" or whatever. But even if that is true--and I'm inclined to doubt it--then, with all due respect, that svcks for her but there are billions of other girls who don't have that issue and I'm not sure what there is to gain from pandering to that specific situation rather than finding a girl who doesn't have that issue.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think girls who have that complaint are, for whatever reason, with guys who they're just not all that aroused by. And, as a guy in that situation, there's not just some magic combination of move your tongue left, right, and center to change that. Also, IME most girls get off by the act of getting a high value guy off.

Here, I'm sure some people could counter with, "Well, some girls just can't get off from penetration or need a high degree of comfort" or whatever. But even if that is true--and I'm inclined to doubt it--then, with all due respect, that svcks for her but there are billions of other girls who don't have that issue and I'm not sure what there is to gain from pandering to that specific situation rather than finding a girl who doesn't have that issue.

OMFG. Dude. There are plenty of women who thought their life purpose was being a masterbation device for a highly self involved Alpha who it would never occur to him that sex was about both of their pleasure. So these females complaining about having to SELF PLEASURE after hes done his deed. Using their hands, a dildo or another guy or woman. Many of the males are physical specimens or mental Alphas. But shes getting tired of his bullshyt. A whole untapped market of woman who truly desire to get off during sex. You cant believe all the dating coaches say. What hooks these women is they get attract to dudes image. Yes they want to please their man for a while. But they get tired of not getting pleased. The hook is in their HOPE that one day He will please her. It goes on till she gets tired. But females are complaining en mass.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think girls who have that complaint are, for whatever reason, with guys who they're just not all that aroused by. And, as a guy in that situation, there's not just some magic combination of move your tongue left, right, and center to change that. Also, IME most girls get off by the act of getting a high value guy off.

Here, I'm sure some people could counter with, "Well, some girls just can't get off from penetration or need a high degree of comfort" or whatever. But even if that is true--and I'm inclined to doubt it--then, with all due respect, that svcks for her but there are billions of other girls who don't have that issue and I'm not sure what there is to gain from pandering to that specific situation rather than finding a girl who doesn't have that issue.

Even the TOP guys on this board are saying most females dont nutt from penetration.

 

[fastlife]

Even the TOP guys on this board are saying most females dont nutt from penetration.

Lol. We must have a different list of TOP posters. Only couple I see in here mention some women--which is cool but not really the subset I'd prefer to allocate my time towards.

OMFG. Dude. There are plenty of women who thought their life purpose was being a masterbation device for a highly self involved Alpha who it would never occur to him that sex was about both of their pleasure. So these females complaining about having to SELF PLEASURE after hes done his deed. Using their hands, a dildo or another guy or woman. Many of the males are physical specimens or mental Alphas. But shes getting tired of his bullshyt. A whole untapped market of woman who truly desire to get off during sex. You cant believe all the dating coaches say. What hooks these women is they get attract to dudes image. Yes they want to please their man for a while. But they get tired of not getting pleased. The hook is in their HOPE that one day He will please her. It goes on till she gets tired. But females are complaining en mass.

1. Why are these women specifically fvcking guys who really aren't that concerned about their orgasm to begin with? She has any number of guys on her social media of choice who would do anything to pleasure her--but she isn't fvcking them. Why do you think this is?

2. Women complain en masse about any number of things lol. Fix all of these problem and see if they're any happier.

3. I'm not arguing that you should give absolutely 0 fvcks about a woman's pleasure or to not be a good lover on a technical level. But devoting any significant amount of time specifically to her pleasure in a supplicating way, with no regards for your own, is unattractive behavior. Men are aroused by generosity in their lover; the same isn't true for women.

 

[flowtheory]

From my experience; anytime a woman has wanted to hold off on oral, it’s because they’re a little bit afraid of emotional bonding and it being too intimate.
I’ve asked many friends who are women too, and it’s usually that.

Really depends on the woman and your and her connection though.

 

[sazc]

I always love when I read the "well, I asked a LOT of my female friends and they agreed with me" lol

It's too easy to say, always....

 

[flowtheory]

I always love when I read the "well, I asked a LOT of my female friends and they agreed with me" lol

It's too easy to say, always....

no one agreed with me. I asked them if they’ve had this experience and they told me how they felt with those particular people and situations.

 

[17 shots]

Some of them have crazy sensitive ****s, and can only tolerate it if its done a certain way, so if you do it wrong or too rough they'll just tell you that's enough

Sometimes they haven't been shaving and just don't want you to see that mess

Sometimes they have another dude who does that. You'd be surprised how many guys are ok with showing up just to eat ***** and leave

And sometimes everything else that's already been said by others

 

[AJ84]

Lol. We must have a different list of TOP posters. Only couple I see in here mention some women--which is cool but not really the subset I'd prefer to allocate my time towards.



1. Why are these women specifically fvcking guys who really aren't that concerned about their orgasm to begin with? She has any number of guys on her social media of choice who would do anything to pleasure her--but she isn't fvcking them. Why do you think this is?

2. Women complain en masse about any number of things lol. Fix all of these problem and see if they're any happier.

3. I'm not arguing that you should give absolutely 0 fvcks about a woman's pleasure or to not be a good lover on a technical level. But devoting any significant amount of time specifically to her pleasure in a supplicating way, with no regards for your own, is unattractive behavior. Men are aroused by generosity in their lover; the same isn't true for women.

That’s 100% not true. Women are very much turned on by generosity in their lover like wow that’s female tingles 101.
And I’m not sure what you mean by giving her pleasure in a supplicating way, unless you mean begging to go down on her. Yeah that may be weird for some women I guess but main point is women love givers in bed. Can’t stress that enough and of course it should go both ways. Giving and getting for both .

 

[lizardking82]

Lol. We must have a different list of TOP posters. Only couple I see in here mention some women--which is cool but not really the subset I'd prefer to allocate my time towards.



1. Why are these women specifically fvcking guys who really aren't that concerned about their orgasm to begin with? She has any number of guys on her social media of choice who would do anything to pleasure her--but she isn't fvcking them. Why do you think this is?

2. Women complain en masse about any number of things lol. Fix all of these problem and see if they're any happier.

3. I'm not arguing that you should give absolutely 0 fvcks about a woman's pleasure or to not be a good lover on a technical level. But devoting any significant amount of time specifically to her pleasure in a supplicating way, with no regards for your own, is unattractive behavior. Men are aroused by generosity in their lover; the same isn't true for women.

Couldn't agree more. Watch what the succesful are doing and if you wanna become good at it, do what they do. Simple as that.

Personally, I will enjoy the sex as an experience, an intimate one. No need to get technical about pleasuring her, I have girls orgasming in different ways and none of them complain.

 

[lizardking82]

That’s 100% not true. Women are very much turned on by generosity in their lover like wow that’s female tingles 101.
And I’m not sure what you mean by giving her pleasure in a supplicating way, unless you mean begging to go down on her. Yeah that may be weird for some women I guess but main point is women love givers in bed. Can’t stress that enough and of course it should go both ways. Giving and getting for both .

You can pleasure a woman without going down on her just like most men can live and be satisfied quite a lot by a woman who doesn't know how to (like most don't) or doesn't give many BJs. Of course giving good BJs is a very nice thing a woman can do, but I have been living with sex and I am not complaining one bit, the oral sex is just an optional/extra part. If your woman, like many women, can't reach orgasm just by penetration alone, then you help her with your fingers during penetration and most women will have more than 2 orgasms easy like that. Simple.

 

[speed dawg]

Some great advice, and some terrible advice, in this thread.

OP, on the surface, if a chick is letting you stick your d*ck in her with a good attitude, then she's obviously into you somewhat, so I wouldn't worry about that. I'd probably say she didn't think her p*ssy was the cleanest on that day.

Also, you don't 'talk' about this crap. All this 'communication with your partner' BS is metrosexual beta cuck programming from women's magazines. If you want to do it, just do it, and she'll stop you if she doesn't want it.

As far as meeting the woman's needs before your own, well, that is an art. Yes, it is true in life that you really need to be a 'giving' person and try to help others before yourself. But that is most effective when you're coming from a position of your own contentment. Similar to being nice, it's only effective when you're already respected and in power. All that to say, you go for what you want, all the while being cognizant of what she wants too.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Lol. We must have a different list of TOP posters. Only couple I see in here mention some women--which is cool but not really the subset I'd prefer to allocate my time towards.



1. Why are these women specifically fvcking guys who really aren't that concerned about their orgasm to begin with? She has any number of guys on her social media of choice who would do anything to pleasure her--but she isn't fvcking them. Why do you think this is?

2. Women complain en masse about any number of things lol. Fix all of these problem and see if they're any happier.

3. I'm not arguing that you should give absolutely 0 fvcks about a woman's pleasure or to not be a good lover on a technical level. But devoting any significant amount of time specifically to her pleasure in a supplicating way, with no regards for your own, is unattractive behavior. Men are aroused by generosity in their lover; the same isn't true for women.

You can pleasure a woman without going down on her just like most men can live and be satisfied quite a lot by a woman who doesn't know how to (like most don't) or doesn't give many BJs. Of course giving good BJs is a very nice thing a woman can do, but I have been living with sex and I am not complaining one bit, the oral sex is just an optional/extra part. If your woman, like many women, can't reach orgasm just by penetration alone, then you help her with your fingers during penetration and most women will have more than 2 orgasms easy like that. Simple.

Some of us are not cool with zero bj.

 

[sazc]

Some of us are not cool with zero bj.

Wait, what?! You're not all the same single minded machine? Well.... It's a damn good thing women are!

I don't understand this whole idea of a woman seeing you as subserviant/non dominant if you go down on her. Matter of fact, if you can give her the big O that way (any way really), I can only assume she will have stars in her eyes and be more inclined to see you as a true/complete MAN.

That said, NAWALT really needs to be applied here if you are going to save YOUR sanity. Not all women like downtown. Some women prefer downtown. Not all women can O from downtown. Some women can only O from downtown. Some women can O regardless of who it is. Some women can't O at all. Some women see downtown as subserviant. Some women see downtown as incredibly giving.

Unless you suck in bed, none of any of this really has to do with you on a personal level, it's sh1t that was formed way before you got 'there'

Work with what you got but don't take it super personally - unless you want to drive yourself MAD. People can, and will, suck.

 

[SoSuave666]

You can pleasure a woman without going down on her just like most men can live and be satisfied quite a lot by a woman who doesn't know how to (like most don't) or doesn't give many BJs. Of course giving good BJs is a very nice thing a woman can do, but I have been living with sex and I am not complaining one bit, the oral sex is just an optional/extra part. If your woman, like many women, can't reach orgasm just by penetration alone, then you help her with your fingers during penetration and most women will have more than 2 orgasms easy like that. Simple.

You are talking like you believe male and female bodies work the exact same. Of course, they do not.