Big City Guys: Just STFU LOL

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I've lived in big cities (millions of people), medium sized cities (500K) smaller towns (150,000) and small towns (50K to 100K). At this time, I'm in a smaller town surrounded by smaller towns and the nearest big cities are 1 and 2 hours away.

The game is so radically different in these towns you can't reasonably communicate with other players if they live in a different type of city. Small towns have extraordinary scarcity of hot single women. Some large cities have an embarrassingly large number. So, a guy like Amante (I'm told he is in the NYC area I don't know if he is) is going to have access to an enormous number of single women whereas guys like myself at least in theory have access to smaller numbers.

I lived in NYC at one point and I had to exert almost no energy or effort to meet women. I didn't even go to bars or clubs. I didn't even have to go to cafes. All I had to do was walk around in public in order to meet women. Women openly eye fvcked me on the street. Women stalked me from store to store while I walked around town. Many women approached or started conversations. There was no "shield" of any kind as far as opening or conversation. Women in NYC, at least up until the point I actually learned some game, were by far the most sexually aggressive women I had ever met in my life. What's odd is that I was knee deep in work, never went to the gym and had gained a significant amount of weight. Didn't matter. Women were still pursuing me in large numbers. Random women started up conversations about sex as the opening topic. I had teen girls staring at my crotch for the entire duration of train rides. This was over the course of just a few weeks. There is little question I would have had far more women than I could handle if I had stayed even just a few months.

FF to a small town social mixer recently. In a group of a couple of dozen, there was exactly ONE attractive women under 40 (just barely). There were only FOUR women present. Twenty men. 2 or 3 of us talked almost exclusively with this lone attractive woman under 40. She also happened to be the only "single" woman there. One single attractive woman in a group of two dozen. In addition to the two of us, there are 6 or 7 watching or listening in on the periphery who wanted in.

This means EXTREME SCARCITY in small towns. This means almost all of the attractive single women are gravitating towards a very limited number of the most attractive single men. Even there, this group of good looking guys have their leverage compromised due to the overwhelming number of orbiters and potential orbiters waiting and lurking.

I can improve my leverage enormously by driving 45 minutes to 1 hour out. But then that's 2 hours of driving, recovery time from drinking if I drive back or a costly airbnb otherwise. Even in this situation with a large increase of single attractive women the pool is still relatively small. Pairing up is the norm. As is marriage.

To put it very simply, only a small number of the very largest cities IN THE WORLD are designed to accommodate "game" as it's understood on this forum or other male oriented forums.

"The game" ie cold approaching, is simply ineffective, even impossible in almost every city and state not only in the US but the entire world. Unless you live in NYC/LA/Vegas/Miami or a half dozen of the other largest cities in the US, forget it. Cold approach is not the strategy to pursue.
 

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A quick anecdote: I ran into a guy I hadn't seen in YEARS. It turns out he found a girlfriend. He said it took him THREE years!

Now, this guy is completely average. He would completely blend into a crowd and you would never spot anything distinctive about him. He's not ugly, he's not good looking, he's not much of anything. Just a normal, early 30 something pudgy guy from the midwest working an average job. So that's the baseline. And he didn't have a problem with it. As a matter of fact, he seemed rather proud of himself. It didn't matter that she was pretty. If she was pretty, he would've shown me a picture.

Strange times.
 

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What’s your point? The game is a numbers game. I’m in Metro NYC.. it’s easily the best city in the United States for singles and dating, especially online dating. If you look halfway decent you can bang as many chicks as your time and finances permit. I get 5-10 women per week that initiate messaging me online alone per week. There have been single weeks were I’ve been able to schedule 10 dates and get 20 phone numbers. It’s an endless buffet of women in NYC.
 

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I live in a fairly small town, and while I don't think things are quite as bleak as the OP suggests, there is some merit to what he's saying.
I suppose it depends on just how small the town is.
But it's well documented that there is a large surplus of single women in NYC, for whatever reason.

If you can’t get sh*t done in a cow-poke town, then adapt and conquer or move the hell out.
There are plenty of reasons to live in various places. But I can't believe I would ever move anywhere just for the sole purpose of getting a little more variety of tail. I guess some people would though. Whatever makes you happy, I guess.
 

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I’ve already conceded that the OP made some legitimate points. However, the number of women who might stare at your crotch on a subway is not a good indicator of a man’s ability to game.

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I would go so far as to say it is far more difficult finding a good quality, wholesome woman in NYC than it is to find one in a much more conservative, more family orientated rural setting.
I, for one, am not trying to attack you or minimize your results, just to be clear. Just acknowledging that there is a difference in the numbers game based on location, this has been discussed in the past. NY is the #1 city for single women outnumbering single men.

I agree you are likely right that women in more conservative areas are more likely to be looking for LTRs at a younger age, while places like NY are probably more suitable for spinning plates.
 

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I bet you a lot of foreigners would say “Americans should just STFU” because women are far more sexually conservative in many countries in LatAm and Europe. (Yes there are exceptions.) I got my erotic masseuse out on a date in Budapest and she was shocked that I went for a kiss.
 

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Also, I live in center city Philadelphia. There’s only 200,000 people (people from the other boroughs of Philly mostly come here to work) and it’s just as easy here as when I lived in NYC. I will say that there’s a few colleges here so that helps.
 

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Also, I live in center city Philadelphia. There’s only 200,000 people (people from the other boroughs of Philly mostly come here to work) and it’s just as easy here as when I lived in NYC. I will say that there’s a few colleges here so that helps.
Another great city. The women are fatter in Philly though.
 

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I’ve already conceded that the OP made some legitimate points. However, the number of women who might stare at your crotch on a subway is not a good indicator of a man’s ability to game.

Yes, there are a lot more attractive women in such highly populated areas. Yes they tend to be more forthcoming and liberal. But they are also far more trashy, less trustworthy and more likely to be unfaithful. It is far easier to be deceived.

I would go so far as to say it is far more difficult finding a good quality, wholesome woman in NYC than it is to find one in a much more conservative, more family orientated rural setting. And I can make that comparison after having lived, worked and played in many small towns around the country.

I may not have to fist fight a woman’s older brother in a rooftop lounge in Manhattan just to get her number, but I’ve had to do that in a barroom in Missouri. The best looking girl in town was constantly chaperoned by overprotective family.

I adapted my game, because I knew where the value was. I learned how to deal with the men there, because I realized I would have to go straight through a few of them.

A piece of ass all by itself...has no value. It means nothing.

If a big city guy like me can walk into a tiny little town and land the prettiest girl there, does that mean I should STFU because it’s “so easy” in NYC?

If I can land myself a hottie who is a self-proclaimed “lesbian” in some foothill town in Maine that the local boys can’t hit, should I STFU because it’s “so easy” in NYC?

I’m just not buying it.

Most of what I know came from these very kinds of experiences... experiences that had occurred far far away from the supposed land of plentiful milk and honey on the east coast. If more than half of my experience comes from the very kinds of places members are crying unfair about, should I still STFU because it’s so easy in NYC?
Why do you feel defeated and have to "concede" a point. The truth is the truth, you don't lose anything by acknowledging it.
 

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I, for one, am not trying to attack you or minimize your results, just to be clear. Just acknowledging that there is a difference in the numbers game based on location, this has been discussed in the past. NY is the #1 city for single women outnumbering single men.

I agree you are likely right that women in more conservative areas are more likely to be looking for LTRs at a younger age, while places like NY are probably more suitable for spinning plates.
A lot of wannabe actresses, models, women enraptured with broadway, brainwashed by sex in the city, tons of puerto rican hoochie mama's, out of towners, european (sex) tourists looking for a fling or a string, etc.

But be sure the understand the difference between quality and quantity.
 

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dude whenever I go visit downtown I'm mainly seeing above average girls that arnt even that attractive with their boyfriends obsessively following them like their the last girl on earth that has a usable vugina...

of course you can see the entitled, overblown ego these 5-6 girls have and it's disgusting.

when you've banged some real tail and have to witness how snobby these girls are acting like what they got is worse something it's vomit inducing.
 

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NYC has its downsides. Drinks are expensive. Hard to get into bars except the male dominated sports bars. Need to use public transportation to get around, which can take hours. If you’re rich then yeah, unlimited women. But for those of us who don’t love OLD, it isn’t exactly glorious.
 

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not trying to btch or complain, I know great gals when I meet them...

humble, smart, happy individuals who arnt needy attention wh0res.

guess I have a so called "pain body" with these girls cause I've grown up such a socially isolated nerd i used to actually take these average girls serious LOL

when I see this chit now it's more the feeling of dodging a bullet and feeling sorry (and annoyed) for the poor bastrds that buy into this whole fake image 80% of these girls present. monogamy, exclusivity, love, trust, being a "good man" who provides.. etc

guess I'm in a point in game now I'm just severely jaded from what I've had to learn :eek:

like severely really REALLY jaded. walking around like a hollow shell after some redpill matrix awakening experience type chit.

ever read sex at dawn? well damn, read that continue living life and witness everything that book says play out in real life :eek:

THEIRS NO SUCH THING AS MONOGAMY WOMEN UR ALL LIEING TO US >;(

AND YOU OWE US A RIB!!
 
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