The Orbiter Problem: It's Never Been Worse

[longtail]

It is unbelievable now. I'm seeing girls out with 3-6 guys following her, ready to serve her. Free cover, free drinks, free uber, free hotel room, all errands taken care of (coat check, retrieving cash, holding purses, etc.).

These girls get liquored up, horny between 10 and 12:30 or 1 AM then they ditch these guys to approach me to makeout, grind and sometimes they'll even go for the pull.

"Dates" are meaningless. A very large percentage of women will ditch their dates after an hour or so at a club or bar. Some won't even wait that long. They will ditch the guy immediately when a hot guy enters the room.

It's difficult to understand why guys, perfectly normal, allow themselves to be cucked so hard. This is nothing more than public masochistic humilitation. Yet they endure it 'happily', smiling, dancing, having a blast while their wallets are being drained by their female friend just to get her horny enough to come find me instead.

How did it get like this? I've seen cucking before as a semi-normal thing but this is reaching epic levels that I did not think were possible.

 

[fanatic22]

Poorly disguised brag lol

 

[AttackFormation]

Statistically people are having less sex and it's because of unrestrained 80/20

I've read this too, way back. What's the distribution? is everyone having less sex? or is it that most men are having less sex, but women and a minority of men are going strong? or is it both that everyone has less sex, but the decline has been sharper for most men? And finally, is there an internal discrepancy between women too, and if so, has it been growing like mens' one?

 

[guru1000]

Out of curiosity for some of you guys and no judgements, how many 7s or higher do you or can you bed in one year?

 

[AttackFormation]

Everyone, although as we know women don't consider a lot of activities sex so take that part with a grain of salt haha. Rule of 3s. But still, trending down.

Makes sense. There are only so many high smv guys who only have so much time and energy to give to them, and they've got orbiters, dogs and sex toys to keep them fulfilled otherwise (although females' happiness is trending down too, so...).

 

[AttackFormation]

Everyone, although as we know women don't consider a lot of activities sex so take that part with a grain of salt haha. Rule of 3s. But still, trending down.

By the way... why do you think the stats find men tend to get happier in relationships, but women become more unhappy? and female happiness in general has been on a decline too for a long time.

 

[Sneaky Pete]

[QUOTE="It's difficult to understand why guys, perfectly normal, allow themselves to be cucked so hard. This is nothing more than public masochistic humilitation. Yet they endure it 'happily', smiling, dancing, having a blast while their wallets are being drained by their female friend just to get her horny enough to come find me instead.”

That’s easy - it’s a fetish and some guys really get off on it.

 

[fanatic22]

Out of curiosity for some of you guys and no judgements, how many 7s or higher do you or can you bed in one year?

I was with 40 girls last year and ~15 were 7+.

 

[guru1000]

I was with 40 girls last year and ~15 were 7+.

Those are strong numbers. I can’t get it up with less than 7s, even with Vs.

 

[R.U.G.]

You don't know the half of it. This one woman I'm seeing or whatever said she expected me to have an Uber pick her up for NYE. You're kidding.. Right? She said no. Many other men have done it in the past. I said, cool, stay in Hoboken and do something with them. If you want to spend time with me, you come to the city. I am at so and so. If not, that's cool.

She ended up taking a train then an Uber to meet up with me. That wasn't the end. The beta game is strong here in NY and NJ. I've never heard of a bro sending an Uber or picking someone up when they live in the city and drive to NJ, then come back to the city, just to bring them back again to their place and then, drive back to the city. Unreal. I told her, that will never be me. If you cannot accept that, no problem. The door over there. Leave anytime you wish. She got pissed off, tried to withhold sex, 20 minutes later we were at it.

Never lose frame. It's sad what the male gender, in general, has become.

 

[fanatic22]

Those are strong numbers. I can’t get it up with less than 7s, even with Vs.

Thanks, it was a breakout year, almost 80% of my total lays. And tbh some of these 5s and 6s are more fun than the 7s and 8s. Just turn the lights off.

 

[guru1000]

I think men are more contented in general, for a number of reasons.

1. Ease of orgasm
2. Lack of options
3. Distaste for emotional fluctuation

Now you take a guy that:

1. Needs(not wants) variety
2. Options
3. Likes the chase/game

And you will end up with a guy just as dissatisfied as any woman.

Men who chase relationships will often find dissatisfied women. Women don’t want the “needy bird”; they want the catch, that is the man who seems untamable but gives her remnants of hope that He can LTR one day should the right woman prove such a sacrifice is worth it.

Hence the search for an LTR is a losing proposition with the upper echelon girls in your SMV range. Once you sub-communicate LTR desperateness, the end is already near.

Most effective strategy for a man is desire to fvck and dismiss—and let her prove that she is worth otherwise. Dangle the carrot and make her work.

 

[AttackFormation]

I think men are more contented in general, for a number of reasons.

1. Ease of orgasm
2. Lack of options
3. Distaste for emotional fluctuation

Now you take a guy that:

1. Needs(not wants) variety
2. Options
3. Likes the chase/game

And you will end up with a guy just as dissatisfied as any woman.

Incredibly concise and accurate explanation.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

going out seeing these orbiter fags brown nose girls their following is getting to be more pathetic by the year.

any girl with decent looks will always have 2-4 guys tagging along right behind her. anywhere and everywhere.

about to buy a bag if puppy leashes and start handing them out, Jesus Christ.

 

[alx]

I think most of them don't get off on being cucked they just don't see a way out. How do you move from the cuck group to the Don Juan group. I'm willing to bet these days the latter is less than even 20%. You said yourself there was 6 cucks and you so that's 14%.

Those other guys would have to go to some other place entirely and try their luck. They would have to do that day in day out until some broad basically makes the first move.