Been seeing a girl for a few months but no actual sex

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she has herpes OP. it's extremely suspicious that she's down for anything except you getting anywhere near her pvssy

she has some sort of situation going on down there most likely.

before I read the part where you said BJs are okay but you can't return the favor I assumed you were her side guy for while her boyfriend was mad/busy/getting boring
Hmm. This is a good take on it.

Whatever the case may be OP, she sounds like she’s more of a liability than an asset and not worth investing anymore mental or emotional energy towards. There’s so many good single women out there looking for a half decent guy to go enjoy good times with; in and out of the sheets with.
Open your eyes and you’ll see they are everywhere. Almost overwhelming what we don’t see on a daily basis and choose what to see then focus on
 

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Same exact thing happened to me. Bro MOVE ON asap she isnt that into you and using you for attention and validation. Trust me. This who alot of people on here tried to help me did the same thing to me. We would make out I'd suck her t!ts and she ONCE grabbed my d thats it. This is after 3 months. Apparently I heard from some acquaintances that she literally moved in some new dudes house and after 5 months straight ghosted him like she did me. And she also didn't have sex with homeboy. I'm gonna chalk it up to check might be lesbian/herpes or some form of std's or is just insane and was abused as a child or young adult.
 

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Same exact thing happened to me. Bro MOVE ON asap she isnt that into you and using you for attention and validation. Trust me. This who alot of people on here tried to help me did the same thing to me. We would make out I'd suck her t!ts and she ONCE grabbed my d thats it. This is after 3 months. Apparently I heard from some acquaintances that she literally moved in some new dudes house and after 5 months straight ghosted him like she did me. And she also didn't have sex with homeboy. I'm gonna chalk it up to check might be lesbian/herpes or some form of std's or is just insane and was abused as a child or young adult.
Ryan.... Some females like power and control more than sex. Makes their lady boner bigger than yours.
 

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Ryan.... Some females like power and control more than sex. Makes their lady boner bigger than yours.
Not if you make them wet they don't.
 

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Hmmmmm you guys make some valid points. But I think, knowing her, that she may be just as confused as I am and not really have any plan about this whole thing. I don't think she's just totally intentionally stringing me along while she does something else on the side or that I'm the side, but that she doesn't know what she's doing.

I honestly don't think she's that experienced in general. The first time she gave head it was kinda bad and involved teeth (she's really small and I'm decently equipped, let's just say that), but she improved by the next few times.

In regards to the herpes thing, meh I dunno maybe. I do recall one time she said she was going through her period as the reason she couldn't do anything. But another time when I was right about to actually have sex with her and got ready to put on a condom, she said don't worry about that you shouldn't need to worry about condoms with me. But that was the time I was ****-faced cause she pressured me into out-drinking her. That time she actually seemed like she was ready to take me but we couldn't get it to physically work for several reasons (I think I put it in for a few seconds but then had trouble and it slipped out, partly cause she is small down there and partly cause I was losing it due to the drinks), and she just "took care of me" in another way instead. But she was almost as drunk as me (kept needing to drink another glass of wine before doing sexual things) so I doubt it was some sneaky master plan of hers or something.

She mentioned last time that "maybe she was just shy". I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

The one thing you guys may be right about is that she still has some kind of lingering feelings for her ex, or at least intimacy issues stemming partly from her marriage, and that's what's causing these problems. I seriously doubt that she's actively seeing other guys at this time though... while not technically completely outside the realm of possibility, we communicate too often and she fills me in on everything in her life, sometimes to the point where it becomes annoying or I get bored. And she's not taking advantage of me to buy her stuff or take her places, since she insists on covering most of the costs of what we do, and often times prefers just hanging out, chilling, talking at one of our places to actually going out and doing stuff, especially "traditional" dates, which she dislikes. When she was sent overseas on an assignment for her government job, she had a gift personally engraved with my name on it too. She's even taught me dances that she knows. This doesn't seem like someone who's uncommitted or just using me as a side thing. In fact, when considering the sexual favors, she's probably doing more for me than I'm doing for her... so what's her end game or goal here? What is she getting out of this? It doesn't add up.

Also, she works a government job where she can't even associate with anyone who say does something illegal like smoke weed occasionally or something. Which I do now and then (and she used to when younger). She told me to quit doing that cause it would get her trouble, and wants to influence my life that way. I told her I stopped but she doesn't like it when I even mention that kind of stuff. I was like what does it matter if I do stuff on my own time, and she's like well are you not taking this seriously, implying that me quitting that is important cause she's considering some kind of future. Again, not exactly something that a girl who doesn't care about you would do.
 
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Hmmmmm you guys make some valid points. But I think, knowing her, that she may be just as confused as I am and not really have any plan about this whole thing. I don't think she's just totally intentionally stringing me along while she does something else on the side or that I'm the side, but that she doesn't know what she's doing.

I honestly don't think she's that experienced in general. The first time she gave head it was kinda bad and involved teeth (she's really small and I'm decently equipped, let's just say that), but she improved by the next few times.

In regards to the herpes thing, meh I dunno maybe. I do recall one time she said she was going through her period as the reason she couldn't do anything. But another time when I was right about to actually have sex with her and got ready to put on a condom, she said don't worry about that you shouldn't need to worry about condoms with me. But that was the time I was ****-faced cause she pressured me into out-drinking her. That time she actually seemed like she was ready to take me but we couldn't get it to physically work for several reasons (I think I put it in for a few seconds but then had trouble and it slipped out, partly cause she is small down there and partly cause I was losing it due to the drinks), and she just "took care of me" in another way instead. But she was almost as drunk as me (kept needing to drink another glass of wine before doing sexual things) so I doubt it was some sneaky master plan of hers or something.

She mentioned last time that "maybe she was just shy". I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

The one thing you guys may be right about is that she still has some kind of lingering feelings for her ex, or at least intimacy issues stemming partly from her marriage, and that's what's causing these problems. I seriously doubt that she's actively seeing other guys at this time though... while not technically completely outside the realm of possibility, we communicate too often and she fills me in on everything in her life, sometimes to the point where it becomes annoying or I get bored. And she's not taking advantage of me to buy her stuff or take her places, since she insists on covering most of the costs of what we do, and often times prefers just hanging out, chilling, talking at one of our places to actually going out and doing stuff, especially "traditional" dates, which she dislikes. When she was sent overseas on an assignment for her government job, she had a gift personally engraved with my name on it too. This doesn't seem like someone who's uncommitted or just using me as a side thing. In fact, when considering the sexual favors, she's probably doing more for me than I'm doing for her... so what's her end game or goal here? What is she getting out of this? It doesn't add up.

Also, she works a government job where she can't even associate with anyone who say does something illegal like smoke weed occasionally or something. Which I do now and then (and she used to when younger). She told me to quit doing that cause it would get her trouble, and wants to influence my life that way. I told her I stopped but she doesn't like it when I even mention that kind of stuff. I was like what does it matter if I do stuff on my own time, and she's like well are you not taking this seriously, implying that me quitting that is important cause she's considering some kind of future. Again, not exactly something that a girl who doesn't care about you would do.
Unpopular opinion but if you don't mind things as they are and enjoy her time and bl0wjobs just keep it going for now. She should warm up to you, but 3 months is a pretty long time to go without sex in a relationship. If it frustrates you, move on.

Personally I would end it unless she's giving regular bl0wjobs.
 

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You are the one in contact with her so you should have a better understandong of the situation

I hope you are not blinded by your feeling towards her

Gl
 

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Unpopular opinion but if you don't mind things as they are and enjoy her time and bl0wjobs just keep it going for now. She should warm up to you, but 3 months is a pretty long time to go without sex in a relationship. If it frustrates you, move on.

Personally I would end it unless she's giving regular bl0wjobs.
It all depends upon the ENERGY. If she's giving him good energy great. If she's acting like he's lucky to be around her that's not good energy. Even while taking the head it degrades a man.
 

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You can’t hook a woman with just Bj’s, before you know it she is gone. Women connect with sexual intercourse. Every woman I have laid chases me after we have sex, never from just bjs. She probably gives those out a few times a week.
Even giving her head in return is not enough. Penetration causes bonding.
 

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You can’t hook a woman with just Bj’s, before you know it she is gone. Women connect with sexual intercourse. Every woman I have laid chases me after we have sex, never from just bjs. She probably gives those out a few times a week.
I doubt you'll find a woman who gives out bjs a few times a week that doesn't give her pvssy out easily too
 

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Friendzone is new and improved in 2018. It has really evolved.

Originally, it meant a chick would talk to you a lot, but she wouldn’t date you or do anything physical with you.

Now, there are many layers or degrees of friendzone.

1. She might only cuddle with you, possibly even naked.

2. She might just make out with you.

3. Or she might just give you head, at a maximum. (This the upper level/high functioning friendzone, but still friendzone nevertheless.)
Don't forget the pity fvck that women uses to keep orbiters compliant in giving out more resources.
 

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Again, it is a strange and unusual relationship in many ways, involving contradictions, and I can't fully figure her out. I mean in addition to all the other stuff she does for me, the girl was ready to give me her really nice/expensive Fender guitar and amp after the third time we hung out. I couldn't accept it in the end though.

I will admit that while I like her a lot as a person, the lack of actual sex is slowly starting to make *me* view her in a more friend-like way. I don't even know if that's intentional or just kind of a by-product of our type of interaction. But if things don't change in the next few weeks I may start to look at other options. I will also try to be seductive in different ways.

Aside from intimacy issues from her marriage and possibly ex, it may also be that she doesn't want to be hurt again and waste part of her life like she did the last few years. She probably thinks her biological clock is ticking as she's approaching thirty soon, her friends are settling down. Maybe she really wants me to prove that I'm legit before she delves into a more serious or intimate level of relationship (which she may define by the move to penetrative sex, among other things). This worries me though. Because at this point, while I'm open to seeing where things go and I like her, I'm certainly nowhere near in love and I don't know if I can deceive her into thinking that. That would be really low or messed up of me and really hard on her. So... I gotta be careful about my next steps. If that's the only way to get more "intimate" with her it would probably be best to just move away from this whole thing.

It is weird; I thought that after her blowing me early in the dating process, we'd definitely be screwing the next time. She said then that she usually doesn't do that kind of thing until the 4th or 5th date but that I was different and she couldn't resist.

I may be misinterpreting though, but I'll see where it goes. I will say I'm going to be more skeptical about things now though, so at least I got that out of this thread.

Also you guys are mostly a bunch of cynical redpill *******s who always take the most negative or pessimistic views toward everything. Do you guys even care about developing actual relationships or is the only thing you want to do is to bag massive amounts of "plates" as if they're objects and not people?
 
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