meldiamond
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tl, dr: WGTOW (Women Going Their Own Way) is a real thing. Many women flat out refuse to date. Anyone.
I often go to 1 or 2 social "events" a week, meaning they are publicized through social media (typically facebook). Surprisingly, women often outnumber the men at many events. Which is strange since military and tech are big in the area and both sectors draw men primarily.
A HUGE percentage of these women, the overwhelming majority even, show almost no interest in the men. Now there's no doubt the area consists of some very boring small towns. There's also no doubt that a large percentage of the men who show up aren't great dating material: fat, old, some sort of physiological/mental disorder, ugly, socially inept, a combination of several, are all shockingly commonplace.
Almost of the women I see at these events are at least 25+, and most are 29+. You would think that dating at least and marriage would be of a high priority with time being of the essence. Shockingly, most of the women are totally cold fish. Starting a conversation with any of them is massively cringe inducing. They can't or won't talk, they are super shy, they are afraid of or hate men, and establishing any degree of trust is just about impossible.
The only significant commonality seems to be a mutual desire to plan future events, but all of it goes nowhere since when the next event arrives the participants spend all of their time talking about what the next event will be, with almost none of the participants pairing off into relationships.
A 60/40 female to male ratio usually means the sexes self segregate with very little interaction. An even more skewed ratio simply means the group of women is larger, without giving the men any more leverage.
There is a way to hookup, but that's all it is: hooking up. And there are a very few men who are allowed by the women to participate in this hookup culture. Almost all of it centers around the local colleges, with only a few dozen AT MOST men all of whom are exceptionally tall, good looking and/or college athletes.
I may very well be the only one, the only male anyway, who is a part of this hookup culture who is not in college or a recent graduate of a local college.
An outline summary:
1. just about all of the attractive young females only date peers (at least same level of attractiveness, same social circle) or date up.
2. a significant minority of 20's and 30's adults locally have little to no dating or sex life.
3. a majority (probably slim majority) date but are very unsatisfied with their dating life or date sporadically.
4. a very small percentage, probably no more than a few dozen, have access to almost all of the hot girls in the county who are single.
5. most average men who date long term and eventually marry, are dating down. The women they date long term and then marry are fat to very fat or significantly below average in attractiveness.
6. some average, normal young adult men manage long term relationships with relatively attractive females (6-8 on the attractiveness scale) but this is a minority.
So who or what's to blame here:
Porn. Obvious is obvious.
Online Dating. Many women can forego any degree of socializing in public and just use dating apps or websites.
Obesity. A large percentage, probably a majority of both men and women as young adults are already overweight. Most people in the US in the 50's and 60's were slim. Now, most people are fat.
Mental disorders. Some significant percentage of young adults cannot cope with the demands of daily life and/or cannot socialize at an acceptable level of competence (as far as the other party is concerned).
Media addiction. Many people simply refuse to get out of the house. One of the few topics that seems to excite people (and is also considered to be an acceptable topic of discussion) is media. Binge watching is the norm, and many people become shut-ins during the weekends and evenings.
Diversity. There was a recent large scale study, several actually that show that as racial and other forms of diversity increase, participation in social and public events decreases. It becomes more difficult to find commonalities.
Feminism. There is no question that girls (and men) are taught from day 1 that men are evil, violent, toxic to the culture, and are generally to be avoided, or subordinated. This puts a huge chill on anything that could even remotely approach a fun vibe.
There is an epidemic of celibacy and loneliness among normal young adult men and women. It's not even an epidemic, it's more accurately characterized as the "new normal."
I don't see any easy fix for this situation. The only practical plan of action is to fight against the forces that destroy one's will to socialize: porn, video games, media, internet, junk food etc.
I often go to 1 or 2 social "events" a week, meaning they are publicized through social media (typically facebook). Surprisingly, women often outnumber the men at many events. Which is strange since military and tech are big in the area and both sectors draw men primarily.
A HUGE percentage of these women, the overwhelming majority even, show almost no interest in the men. Now there's no doubt the area consists of some very boring small towns. There's also no doubt that a large percentage of the men who show up aren't great dating material: fat, old, some sort of physiological/mental disorder, ugly, socially inept, a combination of several, are all shockingly commonplace.
Almost of the women I see at these events are at least 25+, and most are 29+. You would think that dating at least and marriage would be of a high priority with time being of the essence. Shockingly, most of the women are totally cold fish. Starting a conversation with any of them is massively cringe inducing. They can't or won't talk, they are super shy, they are afraid of or hate men, and establishing any degree of trust is just about impossible.
The only significant commonality seems to be a mutual desire to plan future events, but all of it goes nowhere since when the next event arrives the participants spend all of their time talking about what the next event will be, with almost none of the participants pairing off into relationships.
A 60/40 female to male ratio usually means the sexes self segregate with very little interaction. An even more skewed ratio simply means the group of women is larger, without giving the men any more leverage.
There is a way to hookup, but that's all it is: hooking up. And there are a very few men who are allowed by the women to participate in this hookup culture. Almost all of it centers around the local colleges, with only a few dozen AT MOST men all of whom are exceptionally tall, good looking and/or college athletes.
I may very well be the only one, the only male anyway, who is a part of this hookup culture who is not in college or a recent graduate of a local college.
An outline summary:
1. just about all of the attractive young females only date peers (at least same level of attractiveness, same social circle) or date up.
2. a significant minority of 20's and 30's adults locally have little to no dating or sex life.
3. a majority (probably slim majority) date but are very unsatisfied with their dating life or date sporadically.
4. a very small percentage, probably no more than a few dozen, have access to almost all of the hot girls in the county who are single.
5. most average men who date long term and eventually marry, are dating down. The women they date long term and then marry are fat to very fat or significantly below average in attractiveness.
6. some average, normal young adult men manage long term relationships with relatively attractive females (6-8 on the attractiveness scale) but this is a minority.
So who or what's to blame here:
Porn. Obvious is obvious.
Online Dating. Many women can forego any degree of socializing in public and just use dating apps or websites.
Obesity. A large percentage, probably a majority of both men and women as young adults are already overweight. Most people in the US in the 50's and 60's were slim. Now, most people are fat.
Mental disorders. Some significant percentage of young adults cannot cope with the demands of daily life and/or cannot socialize at an acceptable level of competence (as far as the other party is concerned).
Media addiction. Many people simply refuse to get out of the house. One of the few topics that seems to excite people (and is also considered to be an acceptable topic of discussion) is media. Binge watching is the norm, and many people become shut-ins during the weekends and evenings.
Diversity. There was a recent large scale study, several actually that show that as racial and other forms of diversity increase, participation in social and public events decreases. It becomes more difficult to find commonalities.
Feminism. There is no question that girls (and men) are taught from day 1 that men are evil, violent, toxic to the culture, and are generally to be avoided, or subordinated. This puts a huge chill on anything that could even remotely approach a fun vibe.
There is an epidemic of celibacy and loneliness among normal young adult men and women. It's not even an epidemic, it's more accurately characterized as the "new normal."
I don't see any easy fix for this situation. The only practical plan of action is to fight against the forces that destroy one's will to socialize: porn, video games, media, internet, junk food etc.
