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That's for you to discover.

Seek self knowledge. Explore consciousness. Be about your ambition. Not knowing your purpose means your current purpose is figuring it out.

Read, way of the superior man by David Deida.
I'm like 40 and still haven't figured it out. I guess its about having offspring? I never really found my talent. I love women and am very attracted to them thats all I can say.

What do you want for yourself?
Life. It persists. You can’t really even kill it, not permanently.
“So why not do the best thing you could possibly do? Do you have something better to do? Really?”
J. Peterson
What does that babble even mean? Jordan Peterson is a public figure who's life who has no parallels to mine. If you want me to attempt to answer that question, then I currently live for pleasure... Anywhere I can find it... women, entertainment, gambling etc... But again I feel like this is all just distractions as we continue to age and our cells die off. Having offspring just continues this cycle right? Temporary pleasures....

That is one of the smartest posts on here because you are dealing with spiritual reality and are looking at eternity.

There is no real purpose in this world apart from finding God and doing His will. God has a plan for your life before you were born and loves you enough to have sent His Son to die for your sins (be buried and resurrected) so you could be adopted as being a son of God yourself as Jesus can live on the inside of you. The greatest love someone can express is to die for you. You can approach God based on what Jesus did and have all of your sins forgiven. I would recommend finding a Bible believing church or place where you can sense there is a presence of God and the people are genuine, it's something you can usually pick up in your intuition, and try praying and seeking out God. Normally you should be able to spot a true Christian in a crowd. There is always something "different" about them. They have been born-again. Then you find purpose when you find Jesus and everything is about Him and not yourself.

The distractions that you speak of is to lure you away from Jesus and getting to the bottom of life and leaving you just numb while you go through the motions with a false sense of purpose. You are right, people will be distracted while the world comes apart around them. 2 Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth". That describes the distracted society that's educated, but not finding the truth. John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me". Jesus is the truth. If the direction of life is not finding out who the person of Jesus is, how you can know Jesus or invite Him into your life and get an encounter with Him, then there is no direction at all that's profitable in the end.

So, well said thread. At the end, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. Ecc 1:14. You have found the vanity so the battle is half-won.
Why is it that so many of the highest IQ level individuals like Einstein or Stephen Hawking not believe in a personal God? It seems as time continues more and more of what was unexplained becomes explainable by science. As far as Christianity... Am I really supposed to believe that the copious people in other cultues who were never exposed to it will be dammed? Why should I believe you over Einstein who is more intelligent?
Why is Christianity the way and not Hinduism or Buddhism? Have you ever studied other religions or philosphies? Sounds like you are giving a sermon from years and years of brainwashing.

To have a wide variety of experiences so you can say look back and say you truly lived.
Yeah exactly just continue distracting ourselves.... Seriously guys what is the point of us even being here?
 

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Simple. Make something of yourself. What are your personal and professional goals in life? Once you can answer that question, then you have to work towards them. If I learned anything in life is that anything worth doing in life is not easy. It takes work and sacrifice in order to reach your true goals and passions in life.
 

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Simple. Make something of yourself. What are your personal and professional goals in life? Once you can answer that question, then you have to work towards them. If I learned anything in life is that anything worth doing in life is not easy. It takes work and sacrifice in order to reach your true goals and passions in life.
I think this is a good start. It's essentially a humanism that fights back against all the fatalistic forms of materialism that dominates our culture at the moment. It has a long history, and it is also deeply ingrained within our own nature.

Self-knowledge/ self-mastery/ self-discipline, call it what you will, is an instinct for freedom and self-determination. It's the most basic of all desires which should rule the others. Therein lies dignity.

Of course, why this should be so, leads into metaphysical questions of a religious nature. This also is perfectly natural. Personally, I do not think these questions can be resolved 'ideologically'. That we take an ideological stance to begin with is part of the problem. The error, in my opinion, originates with the Reformation - Truth was taken as the sole arbiter of authority as the expense of the other ideals [known as the transcendentals] of Beauty, the Good and Unity. This was essentially an iconoclastic [war on art] position, which in turn created the conditions for the scientific revolution - the essence of science is a drive for naked Truth. But the reality is that this drive is also a drive for Power. St Augustine, many years ago, identified it as the 'libido dominandi'.

Politics today is a power over the mind, or ideology. It's breaking down as now everyone can subscribe to their own ideology on line. Politics no doubt will have to succumb to a technocracy, where power is simply exercised over the body. Money today is an interesting hybrid, where it relies on mass confidence/ belief, and in turn manages the material aspects of our lives.

Back to freedom/ self-determination [as opposed to chaos]. Aristotle spelt it out well - the magnanimous man [the Alpha] has to free himself both mentally and physically [monetarily] in order to be truly free. A natural existence must super-impose itself on the social one [not destroy it] and there in the solitude of that space one might start a conversation with God.
 
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Often I feel life is just a series of distractions until our inevitable death.

What is the purpose to reproduce? To just continue this cycle of people distracting themselves with sports, food, video games, whatever... Day by day passes by and before we know it we are our past our physical primes and start thinking about retirement. Then we die!

So wtf is the purpose or point of life?
Reyaj, you're a man after my own heart. Are you familiar with Schopenhauer?

"…a man never is happy, but spends his whole life in striving after something which he thinks will make him so; he seldom attains his goal, and when he does, it is only to be disappointed; he is mostly shipwrecked in the end, and comes into harbor with mast and rigging gone. And then, it is all one whether he has been happy or miserable; for his life was never anything more than a present moment always vanishing; and now it is over."

He was quite the pessimist, but I agree with most of his thoughts on life. He's a thought-provoking read, if nothing else.

My thoughts on the matter are basically summed up by Dostoyevsky:

One’s own free, untrammeled desires, one’s own whim… All of this is precisely that which fits no classification, and which is constantly knocking all systems and theories to hell. And where did our sages get the idea that a man must have normal, virtuous desires? What man needs is only his own independent wishing, whatever that independence may cost and wherever it may lead.
 
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One’s own free, untrammeled desires, one’s own whim… All of this is precisely that which fits no classification, and which is constantly knocking all systems and theories to hell. And where did our sages get the idea that a man must have normal, virtuous desires? What man needs is only his own independent wishing, whatever that independence may cost and wherever it may lead.
The idea of the autonomous Will is a relatively new idea, a modern idea. I think you first see it fully emerge [as something like a faculty] in Kant, the great German philosopher, who had a great influence on those following such as Schopenhauer and Dostoevsky.

Earlier, in more classical and Greek thought, you had something like 'rational desire' instead of an absolutely free and autonomous [and potentially anarchic] Will. This rational desire aligned itself in almost erotic terms to an intelligible reality that lay behind the randomness of the world that appears to us. There is something of this metaphysics still alive in Kant, but it is soon all swept aside in subsequent thinkers such as Schopenhauer and Dostoevsky... not to mention Nietzsche.

The tragedy of German romantic thought is this split of will from reason... and the same can be said of Anglo-Saxon thought; each emphasized one aspect at the expense of the other. Still, if I had to choose, my preference would lie with the Germans as it kept alive the earlier culture of self-determination. Today, that idea seems politically relegated to nation-states. Very Hobbesian, and potentially totalitarian.
 
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The idea of the autonomous Will is a relatively new idea, a modern idea. I think you first see it fully emerge [as something like a faculty] in Kant, the great German philosopher, who had a great influence on those following such as Schopenhauer and Dostoevsky.

Earlier, in more classical and Greek thought, you had something like 'rational desire' instead of an absolutely free and autonomous [and potentially anarchic] Will. This rational desire aligned itself in almost erotic terms to an intelligible reality that lay behind the randomness of the world that appears to us. There is something of this metaphysics still alive in Kant, but it is soon all swept aside in subsequent thinkers such as Schopenhauer and Dostoevsky... not to mention Nietzsche.

The tragedy of German romantic thought is this split of will from reason... and the same can be said of Anglo-Saxon thought; each emphasized one aspect at the expense of the other. Still, if I had to choose, my preference would lie with the Germans as it kept alive the earlier culture of self-determination. Today, that idea seems politically relegated to nation-states. Very Hobbesian, and potentially totalitarian.
In the modern world it's difficult to believe in anything other than individualistic thought.

Most of us are surrounded by diverse peoples on a daily basis, many of which we can't relate to in the slightest sense. Family, culture and tradition have mostly gone by the way side, in favor of materialism and the almighty dollar. I look around and I don't see a lot worth saving.

I believe in taking care of friends and loved ones, but I feel no obligation to my fellow citizenry or country, much less a higher power that lays behind the randomness.
 

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In the modern world it's difficult to believe in anything other than individualistic thought.

Most of us are surrounded by diverse peoples on a daily basis, many of which we can't relate to in the slightest sense. Family, culture and tradition have mostly gone by the way side, in favor of materialism and the almighty dollar. I look around and I don't see a lot worth saving.

I believe in taking care of friends and loved ones, but I feel no obligation to my fellow citizenry or country, much less a higher power that lays behind the randomness.
Yes, and this is the whole point of culture - as we think, so we are. Even this individualistic way of thinking is paradoxically a product of collective thought [modern/ Enlightenment].

I don't see a way out of this impasse other than taking practical thought seriously - the unexamined life is not worth living. One starts with themselves on the assumption that they are a rational moral agent [as directly/ existentially perceived in the first person] and then exercises some criticism toward the commonly received notions. The first things to go are the abstractions of modernity based as they are on the assumption that the self is a logical machine aka a pure cogito. The self is now conceived, or should I say directly intuited, more along the lines of an embodied spirit, which brings back into play other dimensions of thought that had been relegated to mere 'romanticism'.

The philosophy of Plato summarizes nicely the position of a rational romantic. And of course, without there being some goal toward which rational desire strives [the 'Sun' in the intelligible sphere, a higher power, God], why would you bother. And this is why no-one bothers to think today. They've 'outsourced their thinking to the specialists and technocrats, which is the death of real freedom in the end. Freedom today is largely a vacuous facile empty abstract idea. It has become meaningless.
 
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A mystery? A dream? Who knows...
 
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Yes, and this is the whole point of culture - as we think, so we are. Even this individualistic way of thinking is paradoxically a product of collective thought [modern/ Enlightenment].

I don't see a way out of this impasse other than taking practical thought seriously - the unexamined life is not worth living. One starts with themselves on the assumption that they are a rational moral agent [as directly/ existentially perceived in the first person] and then exercises some criticism toward the commonly received notions. The first things to go are the abstractions of modernity based as they are on the assumption that the self is a logical machine aka a pure cogito. The self is now conceived, or should I say directly intuited, more along the lines of an embodied spirit, which brings back into play other dimensions of thought that had been relegated to mere 'romanticism'.

The philosophy of Plato summarizes nicely the position of a rational romantic. And of course, without there being some goal toward which rational desire strives [the 'Sun' in the intelligible sphere, a higher power, God], why would you bother. And this is why no-one bothers to think today. They've 'outsourced their thinking to the specialists and technocrats, which is the death of real freedom in the end. Freedom today is largely a vacuous facile empty abstract idea. It has become meaningless.
Myself and Reyaj have both criticized commonly received notions, as you put it, and we came to the conclusion that life is meaningless beyond propagation and fleeting pleasures.

Finding hobbies, setting and reaching goals, believing in a higher power: these could all be considered fleeting pleasures.

The only true purpose of life is to spread your seed. Beyond that, life is what you want it to be.

Ideally, one would pursue the teachings of great men, self-restraint, determination, strength of body.

Usually this isn't the case, and it's been that way throughout the ages. Most people are like sheep, easily manipulated into what to do. And in the modern world, that means the newest gadget, line of clothing or social media hysteria.
 
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I struggle with this topic a lot.

I do what I have to do. I have a good job, my own place, nice car, a bunch of money in the bank, a girl that seems to love me...

Yet I still feel lost.

I get sick of the same old sh1t, day after day. Most days, I want to get rid of it all and hit the road with a sack on my back, just to see what happens. Maybe put a little excitement in my life. I'm not even old yet...I just live like it.

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I struggle with this topic a lot.

I do what I have to do. I have a good job, my own place, nice car, a bunch of money in the bank, a girl that seems to love me...

Yet I still feel lost.

I get sick of the same old sh1t, day after day. Most days, I want to get rid of it all and hit the road with a sack on my back, just to see what happens. Maybe put a little excitement in my life. I'm not even old yet...I just live like it.

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Well, at least you are honest about it, and at least you can articulate it. Think of all the untold masses out there who are not even aware of the word 'nihilism' Theirs's is just a dumb unconscious acquiescence to a world in which they stand in complete alienation. Any gnawing doubts as to the nature of reality, as it has been manufactured for the mass mind, and they will dive head first into there mind-numbing addiction of choice.

It sounds dystopian, and the popular scientific fictions portray artistically, in material terms. what is in reality a spiritual problem. We are embodied spirits, or moral rational agents, not mere matter in motion.

The first most crucial step is to recognize the reality of despair. The antidote, so to speak, is belief. And I don't mean this in an overt religious way, but rather in a philosophical way. One first has to deny the will to doubt, the desire for certainty, and begin to exercise the will to believe, which of course is the most natural of instincts until hammered out of us by an unnatural education. As Socrates put it, the beginning of philosophy is wonder, we are curious, we believe, and then affirm the goodness of life... despite some 'evidence' to the contrary.

For the Greeks, knowledge was justified true belief. Belief was absolutely central, and hence most had no problems with the normative beliefs of their culture. from the base, the educated person could further cultivate themselves. This is what was meant in referring to a certain person that 'flourished' at one time or another. How many of us can be said to 'flourish' today? It's a term we use in mockery, but that only serves to prove our comparative ignorance and poverty. There is no wealth but life.

When I say philosophy, I don't mean by that epistemology. This is the bastardization of philosophy, where the cogito, the self-conscious ego, deliberately casts the universe into doubt, and then rebuilds it in his own image [on certainty]. This is the road to the hellish trinity of nihilism, despair, and doubt. No, true philosophy is more closely allied with aesthetics and ethics...something is true because it rings true and we find it in some way invigorating. It's a process of becoming something that we ought to be. And on that basis, despair would be the unconscious awareness of a neglect of our self, where that self should be developing in the spiritual sphere. despair tells us we are living against our own nature, let alone God's law.
 
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I think this is a good start. It's essentially a humanism that fights back against all the fatalistic forms of materialism that dominates our culture at the moment. It has a long history, and it is also deeply ingrained within our own nature.

Self-knowledge/ self-mastery/ self-discipline, call it what you will, is an instinct for freedom and self-determination. It's the most basic of all desires which should rule the others. Therein lies dignity.

Of course, why this should be so, leads into metaphysical questions of a religious nature. This also is perfectly natural. Personally, I do not think these questions can be resolved 'ideologically'. That we take an ideological stance to begin with is part of the problem. The error, in my opinion, originates with the Reformation - Truth was taken as the sole arbiter of authority as the expense of the other ideals [known as the transcendentals] of Beauty, the Good and Unity. This was essentially an iconoclastic [war on art] position, which in turn created the conditions for the scientific revolution - the essence of science is a drive for naked Truth. But the reality is that this drive is also a drive for Power. St Augustine, many years ago, identified it as the 'libido dominandi'.

Politics today is a power over the mind, or ideology. It's breaking down as now everyone can subscribe to their own ideology on line. Politics no doubt will have to succumb to a technocracy, where power is simply exercised over the body. Money today is an interesting hybrid, where it relies on mass confidence/ belief, and in turn manages the material aspects of our lives.

Back to freedom/ self-determination [as opposed to chaos]. Aristotle spelt it out well - the magnanimous man [the Alpha] has to free himself both mentally and physically [monetarily] in order to be truly free. A natural existence must super-impose itself on the social one [not destroy it] and there in the solitude of that space one might start a conversation with God.
Improving on one's self starts by taking small steps and then growing from them. Rushing into anything too quickly, even for bettering yourself, is a recipe for failure.
 

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I'm like 40 and still haven't figured it out.
Reyaj mate, I am 30 and still figuring it out. But, that aspect of "figuring it out" is game. Game isn't static. Its dynamic. Its changing along with women and world.

I guess its about having offspring? I never really found my talent. I love women and am very attracted to them thats all I can say.
I think its more then a lineage. Its beyond being a cog in the feminine imperative. Beyond swearing away male resources both current and future plus sexual access.

What does that babble even mean? Jordan Peterson is a public figure who's life who has no parallels to mine. If you want me to attempt to answer that question, then I currently live for pleasure... Anywhere I can find it... women, entertainment, gambling etc... But again I feel like this is all just distractions as we continue to age and our cells die off. Having offspring just continues this cycle right? Temporary pleasures....
I've answered this several times.

Male nature is "spread the seed" as depicted in the selfish genes.

Female nature is hypergamy.

This is at a cellular level. Its biology and yet 99% of people are slaves to their DNA.

An offspring swears away male resources. I linked a source whereby a NBA baller couldn't be divorce raped due to unmarried so, the judge child support raped him. Single mom skank got 300k + per month. Over 3million a year.

This isn't advocating violence but, one could have a hit put on her for a miniscule amount. Just saying.

Why is it that so many of the highest IQ level individuals like Einstein or Stephen Hawking not believe in a personal God? It seems as time continues more and more of what was unexplained becomes explainable by science. As far as Christianity... Am I really supposed to believe that the copious people in other cultues who were never exposed to it will be dammed? Why should I believe you over Einstein who is more intelligent?
Why is Christianity the way and not Hinduism or Buddhism? Have you ever studied other religions or philosphies? Sounds like you are giving a sermon from years and years of brainwashing.
You sound like a cuck after years of BBC cuck porn and IRL experience.

You mad?

If your post portrayed anything, it would be the path one should follow if seeking abysmal failure.

I blame low testosterone. Too much soy son.
 

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Simple. Make something of yourself. What are your personal and professional goals in life? Once you can answer that question, then you have to work towards them. If I learned anything in life is that anything worth doing in life is not easy. It takes work and sacrifice in order to reach your true goals and passions in life.
The Stardust's red pill malaise video portrays the fallout after one's eyes are opened. After the veil of delusion gets pulled away.

What aspirations is there once seeing female nature? Why would a man gamble on women? Marriage and children? Why risk being zeroed out?

The recent RMG podcast on SMV depicts the fact of women's lifestyle choices making them a commodity. Rollo went on a rant about that. One of the best pieces IMHO was from a young man calling in. He pointed out the acceptance of "its not your girl its just your turn" + female hypergamy is self defeating. Accepting the following as gospel is not without consequence. Obviously, being aware is the start of a much larger process.

I think for any male who is TRP, is truly living this lifestyle, is out getting baeeeeees, spinning plates, has got game but more importantly, he's about his ambition's first and foremost is key. I think there's nothing more red pill then entrepreneurship.

I agree with you on the value of sacrifice. A Peterson podcast on the psychological significance of the biblical series emphasized this redundant theme. Its then pointed out the points or how far man has coming from sacrificing say an animal as a burnt offering. Today, one may sacrifice seven plus years of mee school to be a doctor or 80-100 hour work weeks for years to start a business. To dismiss the following as superstitions is retarded but, most guys are by deeming one's value in simply having an offspring with the first cratered SMV woman willing. Some men have no spine.


The question isn't about valuing sacrifice. Women about what is one sacrificing? What's worthy to sacrifice one's time, energy, and well-being?

There's no presupposition to male sacrifice. Its just incumbent and the expectations of female nature due to the societal buden of Male performance.

As if to say, "dance monkey dance...!"

We all have a cross to bare (do to speak). You put me onto Pan, the actual version. Peter Pan won't turn away from flying, from Neverland, from untapped potentiality, and fairies. We're seeing a growing amount of men switching off and checking out.

Its becoming clear that more men are viewing life through the same lens as Peter Pan. Why grow up? Why marry? Why turn down things you love and be a male sacrificial lamb to the slaughter? Play house with Chad's booty call or marry Tyrone's BBC gang bang? Raise Chad's baby or marry cratered SMV? Have kids with a fat wife who pissed away her youth as a slut.

That old contract went up in flames along with marriage, cohabitation, and provider male security. Its null and void like most women's SMV when seeking to be serious.
 

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The Stardust's red pill malaise video portrays the fallout after one's eyes are opened. After the veil of delusion gets pulled away.

What aspirations is there once seeing female nature? Why would a man gamble on women? Marriage and children? Why risk being zeroed out?

The recent RMG podcast on SMV depicts the fact of women's lifestyle choices making them a commodity. Rollo went on a rant about that. One of the best pieces IMHO was from a young man calling in. He pointed out the acceptance of "its not your girl its just your turn" + female hypergamy is self defeating. Accepting the following as gospel is not without consequence. Obviously, being aware is the start of a much larger process.

I think for any male who is TRP, is truly living this lifestyle, is out getting baeeeeees, spinning plates, has got game but more importantly, he's about his ambition's first and foremost is key. I think there's nothing more red pill then entrepreneurship.

I agree with you on the value of sacrifice. A Peterson podcast on the psychological significance of the biblical series emphasized this redundant theme. Its then pointed out the points or how far man has coming from sacrificing say an animal as a burnt offering. Today, one may sacrifice seven plus years of mee school to be a doctor or 80-100 hour work weeks for years to start a business. To dismiss the following as superstitions is retarded but, most guys are by deeming one's value in simply having an offspring with the first cratered SMV woman willing. Some men have no spine.


The question isn't about valuing sacrifice. Women about what is one sacrificing? What's worthy to sacrifice one's time, energy, and well-being?

There's no presupposition to male sacrifice. Its just incumbent and the expectations of female nature due to the societal buden of Male performance.

As if to say, "dance monkey dance...!"

We all have a cross to bare (do to speak). You put me onto Pan, the actual version. Peter Pan won't turn away from flying, from Neverland, from untapped potentiality, and fairies. We're seeing a growing amount of men switching off and checking out.

Its becoming clear that more men are viewing life through the same lens as Peter Pan. Why grow up? Why marry? Why turn down things you love and be a male sacrificial lamb to the slaughter? Play house with Chad's booty call or marry Tyrone's BBC gang bang? Raise Chad's baby or marry cratered SMV? Have kids with a fat wife who pissed away her youth as a slut.

That old contract went up in flames along with marriage, cohabitation, and provider male security. Its null and void like most women's SMV when seeking to be serious.
As far as I am concerned, all women who are in shape, attractive and somewhat normal are fair game (non-married). It just doesn't matter anymore. Just don't fvcked em with no protection, do not live with them, and definitely do not marry them. Just have fun. Remember, if you are doing it right, they are having fun too. It's a win / win situation for both people.
 

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IMO, only 5 kinds of people are willing to embrace their own death: The losers of life, the heroes in life, the terminally ill, the mentally ill and the elderly.

For everyone else, the purpose of life is simple: to avoid death.

Everything beyond that is just a psychological measure of how much one enjoys that pursuit.
I'm more like that old Chuck Norris tale. I don't avoid death, death avoids me. :'p Sorry, I just had too....
 

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Why is it that so many of the highest IQ level individuals like Einstein or Stephen Hawking not believe in a personal God?
They are both dead. What was the purpose of their highest IQ if it couldn't keep themselves alive in the end. Isn't that the point the OP was making. What is really the point in the end?

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It seems as time continues more and more of what was unexplained becomes explainable by science.
Except for immortality.

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As far as Christianity... Am I really supposed to believe that the copious people in other cultues who were never exposed to it will be dammed? Why should I believe you over Einstein who is more intelligent?
Because Jesus is alive and Einstein is dead. People have no excuse because God reveals Himself in nature and can lead people to the truth. Missionaries are also sent to other countries, and with the internet, and other technology, the world has got smaller today. People far and wide can hear the good news and be saved.

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Why is Christianity the way and not Hinduism or Buddhism?
I never said Christianity as a religion was the way, I said that Jesus is the Way. This is a personal Jesus. Christianity, as a religion, is just another religion, and it can not save anyone any more than Hinduism or Buddhism can. However, any Hindu, or Buddist, or Christian can come into the saving faith and relationship with Jesus Christ and become in an instant, a true born-again Christian who appropriated what Jesus did on the cross 2000 years ago for their salvation. Someone who has an encounter with Jesus and is born-again with their spirit changed on the inside to one that loves God. There are many Christians who may know religion, but they don't know Jesus personally as their Lord and Saviour. I do not talk about religion here.

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Have you ever studied other religions or philosphies? Sounds like you are giving a sermon from years and years of brainwashing.
To speak to the heart of the matter , the reason you replied to this message means the Holy Spirit is probably convicting your spirit and God's hand is on your life. At this point this is a matter between you and God.
 
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IMO, only 5 kinds of people are willing to embrace their own death: The losers of life, the heroes in life, the terminally ill, the mentally ill and the elderly.

For everyone else, the purpose of life is simple: to avoid death.

Everything beyond that is just a psychological measure of how much one enjoys that pursuit.
Yes and no.

Just like we get plenty of time to get used to the idea of growing old, so to we get used to the idea of death. This is the reality of our mortal life, and religion faces this fact responsibly and soberly. The anxiety people feel in a large measure results from an inability or unwillingness to face our mortality... and so we resort to fantasies about the immortality of the species, or the continuation of our genes etc.

But this anxiety really only stems from the ego. For the ego is all about self-preservation and power. The fact of death entails the complete powerlessness of the ego.

Even from the psychological perspective [putting aside the metaphysical truth of religion for a moment], you can see how much religion will improvement our sense of well-being [our mental or spiritual health]. This happens in transcending the ego. There is a letting go, and a taking pleasure in the simplest things in life. And what is simpler than just Being. The great tragedy today is that most people are driven to distraction by boredom... they can not simply be.

'He who wants to find his life, must lose it.'
 

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