Alpha Males and Children- who are the genetic winners of life?

[jacketrunner]

If an alpha male has sex with 100 women, and never has a baby, his genes are cut off.

If a Mormon marries at 21, has 6 kids, despite claiming undying devotion to his wife like a beta... he has achieved infinitely more genetic success.

Thus, are we misinterpreting our definition of alpha male by looking at purely R-Selected Qualities (multiple partners vs. parental investment)?

The Red Pill community likes to talk about "betas only get women when they've hit the wall and gotten all their alpha ****s out of the way". However, if the betas are the ones having sex in a way that actually produces children, might they be the true alpha males?

If we were to define sexual success as having lots of children versus having multiple sexual partners, would our sexual strategies change?

What is the best way to go about creating a strong, healthy family with lots of children?

Other than instilling a fear of loss in your partner, what is the best way to make her loyal? Or to find the girls who will be loyal?

My initial thoughts are: make lots of money through your 20s and early 30s, then find a pretty girl in her mid to late 20s who's about to hit the wall, and wife her up. Once you have kids, her focus will turn towards raising the kids and not going out to meet new guys. Then, you can focus on providing for the family.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

read sex at dawn, will answer everything you need to know.

societies with %100 sexual freedom and poly relationships = everybody benefits and gets taken care of.

societies with clamped down sexual rules of monogamy = everybody gets fvcked in the head emotionally, poor health, 100 million abortions since 1970, kids, women, are miserable and live in pure scarcity, men become compete little fvcktard beta males that want to murder other men for even looking at their little prized wife sideways.

it's a hard thing to do but dropping this whole notion of having the standard husband wife family unit for yourself is hard to do because men are addicted to it, they will never let it go. every dude is running around in a crazy desperate golden nugget hunt trying to find a wife to dump their resources into and "lock down" forever.
it's fvxking disgusting and pathetic

 

[jacketrunner]

read sex at dawn, will answer everything you need to know.

societies with %100 sexual freedom and poly relationships = everybody benefits and gets taken care of.

societies with clamped down sexual rules of monogamy = everybody gets fvcked in the head emotionally, poor health, 100 million abortions since 1970, kids, women, are miserable and live in pure scarcity, men become compete little fvcktard beta males that want to murder other men for even looking at their little prized wife sideways.

it's a hard thing to do but dropping this whole notion of having the standard husband wife family unit for yourself is hard to do because men are addicted to it, they will never let it go. every dude is running around in a crazy desperate golden nugget hunt trying to find a wife to dump their resources into and "lock down" forever.
it's fvxking disgusting and pathetic

Any society without monogamy is a third world ****hole. Too many dispossessed men.

Better idea is to marry your college sweetheart who has limited baggage due to age.

Yeah I just started dating this cute 22 year old after breaking up with my girl.

I see where you’re coming from. She is naive and sweet and if I treat her well she will probably remain that way. She may just be a rebound tho. We’ll see how things go

 

[zekko]

societies with %100 sexual freedom and poly relationships = everybody benefits and gets taken care of

Not sure what planet you are referring to there. In such situations, it's only the top guys mainly that benefit. The lower guys are left to themselves to eke out a meager existence.

The problems you blamed on monogamy are actually caused by The Pill, degredation of morals, and government sponsered feminism (along with its accompanying emasculization of males).

 

[simongtown]

Look at world population statistics. It is Black Africans, North African Muslims and Mexicans who are reproducing like crazy. They are flooding the world with migrants in Europe and the US. That doesn't make blacks, Mexicans and Muslims "alpha."

It just means that the first world whites and now asians are providing the food, medical care, technology and infrastructure necessary to keep them all alive. In the past, without our help, they would've died in huge numbers as always, maintaining a stable population as always.

If an alpha male has sex with 100 women, and never has a baby, his genes are cut off.

If a Mormon marries at 21, has 6 kids, despite claiming undying devotion to his wife like a beta... he has achieved infinitely more genetic success.

Thus, are we misinterpreting our definition of alpha male by looking at purely R-Selected Qualities (multiple partners vs. parental investment)?

The Red Pill community likes to talk about "betas only get women when they've hit the wall and gotten all their alpha ****s out of the way". However, if the betas are the ones having sex in a way that actually produces children, might they be the true alpha males?

If we were to define sexual success as having lots of children versus having multiple sexual partners, would our sexual strategies change?

What is the best way to go about creating a strong, healthy family with lots of children?

Other than instilling a fear of loss in your partner, what is the best way to make her loyal? Or to find the girls who will be loyal?

My initial thoughts are: make lots of money through your 20s and early 30s, then find a pretty girl in her mid to late 20s who's about to hit the wall, and wife her up. Once you have kids, her focus will turn towards raising the kids and not going out to meet new guys. Then, you can focus on providing for the family.

 

[jacketrunner]

Look at world population statistics. It is Black Africans, North African Muslims and Mexicans who are reproducing like crazy. They are flooding the world with migrants in Europe and the US. That doesn't make blacks, Mexicans and Muslims "alpha."

It just means that the first world whites and now asians are providing the food, medical care, technology and infrastructure necessary to keep them all alive. In the past, without our help, they would've died in huge numbers as always, maintaining a stable population as always.

That’s why I cited Mormons. They’re the whites with the highest birthrates. High academic and educational achievement.

Puritans used to be like this when they first moved to the United States. They bred like rabbits and had extremely strong social controls over any sort of immoral behavior.

Not saying we should be like Puritans, but their lifestyle eventually helped create the strongest nation in history.

Spinning plates is only a means to an end of having lots of kids with a beautiful wife eventually. Career success is likely more important in the end.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

Not sure what planet you are referring to there. In such situations, it's only the top guys mainly that benefit. The lower guys are left to themselves to eke out a meager existence.

The problems you blamed on monogamy are actually caused by The Pill, degredation of morals, and government sponsered feminism (along with its accompanying emasculization of males).

earth

 

[simongtown]

That’s why I cited Mormons. They’re the whites with the highest birthrates. High academic and educational achievement.

Puritans used to be like this when they first moved to the United States. They bred like rabbits and had extremely strong social controls over any sort of immoral behavior.

Not saying we should be like Puritans, but their lifestyle eventually helped create the strongest nation in history.

Spinning plates is only a means to an end of having lots of kids with a beautiful wife eventually. Career success is likely more important in the end.

Sadly the film Idiocracy is proving prophetic. Basically the dumbest, most violent and incompetent "people" are breeding at the fastest rates. France, Sweden, the UK and the rest of Europe are being flooded with low IQ muslims and africans. Ironically, western colonialism and the medicine, hospitals, clean water, food aid and technology have pushed African reproduction rates through the roof and they are all headed to Europe for the welfare benefits and to take advantage of the openness of white societies.

The US is being flooded with Mexican gangsters, rapists, violent criminals and drug traffickers. Entire states are literally turning into Mexico. Southern California used to be full of surfers and hot blonde women and now it's basically a hellhole full of Mexicans and el Salvadoreans.

So, no, the true "alpha's" breed at very low rates. It's really the losers, the dumb, the violent, the ugly, who are reproducing at astronomical rates.

 

[simongtown]

It's even making it more difficult to have fun going out during the weekend. Fortunately, I've found a few quality places that still draw beautiful women.

However, I've seen several local hotspots (relatively speaking) literally turn into Mexican watering holes. With no exaggeration you're literally in Mexico in these places. I've talked to people from San Diego who say the same thing: you might as well be in Mexico since there are so many more Mexicans than Americans in San Diego.

White people stand out like a sore thumb because there are so few these days.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

Any society without monogamy is a third world ****hole. Too many dispossessed men.



Yeah I just started dating this cute 22 year old after breaking up with my girl.

I see where you’re coming from. She is naive and sweet and if I treat her well she will probably remain that way. She may just be a rebound tho. We’ll see how things go

nah I'd say country's that are monogamous are the worst sadistic patches of dirt that ever existed.

 

[simongtown]

nah I'd say country's that are monogamous are the worst sadistic patches of dirt that ever existed.

You are delusional. The only civilized countries that have ever existed are monogamous. Look at Africa, central and South America: they fvck like rabbits and the countries are complete sh1tholes.

btw, go move to Africa if you hate monogamy. You can do whatever you want there. Kill, rape, practice voodoo, drink all day long. Just pray that you aren't eaten by your fellow Africans lol.

 

[R.U.G.]

Even Alphas start to get a bit timid and chill after they have kids. Look at Steve Austin, Mike Tyson, Tito Ortiz, etc. You should read Sex At Dawn though. Just google the book name and pdf and you can download it to your tablet, computer or phone to read. You should also be available for free with a trial to Audible.com.

 

[simongtown]

Even Alphas start to get a bit timid and chill after they have kids. Look at Steve Austin, Mike Tyson, Tito Ortiz, etc. You should read Sex At Dawn though. Just google the book name and pdf and you can download it to your tablet, computer or phone to read. You should also be available for free with a trial to Audible.com.

LOL, none of those guys have kids. Austin (WWE Austin?) and Ortiz are just off the steroids, so less 'roid rage. Mike Tyson is still an animal. He is notorious for his coke binges and horemongering. Also, the media covers up all of his criminal activity to make him look like a good guy.

 

[R.U.G.]

You are delusional. The only civilized countries that have ever existed are monogamous. Look at Africa, central and South America: they fvck like rabbits and the countries are complete sh1tholes.

btw, go move to Africa if you hate monogamy. You can do whatever you want there. Kill, rape, practice voodoo, drink all day long. Just pray that you aren't eaten by your fellow Africans lol.

In the ages before modern technology, many men reproduced with women outside their marriage. I am not for polygamy, nor of any religion, but it was put in place by the Catholic Church I believe around King Richard's reign (not sure of the exact date). Monogamy is nice in theory, but in this day and age, women and some men are always looking for the better deal. The problem is, usually, the grass is not greener on the other side and they keep on repeating the same mistakes in every relationship. Need proof? Watch the Maury show or Jerry Springer. I watched a bit of it this morning. These two had five children (white not black or latin). None of the kids were his. She cheated on him with FIVE DIFFERENT MEN. Of course the moron stays with her.

 

[R.U.G.]

LOL, none of those guys have kids. Austin (WWE Austin?) and Ortiz are just off the steroids, so less 'roid rage. Mike Tyson is still an animal. He is notorious for his coke binges and horemongering. Also, the media covers up all of his criminal activity to make him look like a good guy.

They all do bro.
Austin 3 kids
Tyson 8 kids
Ortiz 3 kids

 

[simongtown]

They all do bro.
Austin 3 kids
Tyson 8 kids
Ortiz 3 kids

Fair enough, I don't keep track of celebrities' kids. But all of them are old and probably not cycling on steroids as often. Make no mistake, they are probably all still using steroids. The media covers up the criminal activity and generally *******ish behavior of black and minority athletes as the norm.

 

[R.U.G.]

Fair enough, I don't keep track of celebrities' kids. But all of them are old and probably not cycling on steroids as often. Make no mistake, they are probably all still using steroids. The media covers up the criminal activity and generally *******ish behavior of black and minority athletes as the norm.

Not really, everyone knows that all three beat the crap out of their wives and girlfriends. However, just giving you and example of alpha males; steroids or not.

 

[simongtown]

In the ages before modern technology, many men reproduced with women outside their marriage. I am not for polygamy, nor of any religion, but it was put in place by the Catholic Church I believe around King Richard's reign (not sure of the exact date). Monogamy is nice in theory, but in this day and age, women and some men are always looking for the better deal. The problem is, usually, the grass is not greener on the other side and they keep on repeating the same mistakes in every relationship. Need proof? Watch the Maury show or Jerry Springer. I watched a bit of it this morning. These two had five children (white not black or latin). None of the kids were his. She cheated on him with FIVE DIFFERENT MEN. Of course the moron stays with her.

Let's face facts. The only successful, technologically advanced, industrialized, low crime, high trust societies are all monogamous: Europe, her colonies and a few countries in East Asia. That's it.

Now, look at Africa and Central America. Africa's religion is voodoo, they rape and murder and cannibalize as standard, everyday practices. Central and South America are even more violent than Africa.

It's not even a matter of culture. Much of Central and South America is ostensibly christian yet murder rates are astronomical, the highest in the world actually.

You can't impose christianity and monogamy on those people: it won't stick anyway.

 

[simongtown]

Not really, everyone knows that all three beat the crap out of their wives and girlfriends. However, just giving you and example of alpha males; steroids or not.

Yeah, I don't follow the lives of these celebrities. It doesn't really matter anyway. I don't care about those fvckers. I'm talking about civilizations and countries.

 

[simongtown]

Africans, Muslims and Central/South Americans have lots and lots of dysgenic habits. Muslims and so-called Latin Americans are notorious for incestuous behavior. This results in low IQ kids with lots of birth defects.

There are lots and lots of Muslims and Latin Americans who are very ugly and dumb and there is no doubt that inbreeding is a major culprit.

You can't get around biological reality. Monogamy and other healthy reproductive strategies lead to sustainable levels of reproduction and produces high IQ children who can create sustain and advance civilizations. Blacks, muslims and central/South Americans are not capable of this. That's why they invade other countries to leech off of their accomplishments.