In Awe at How Fast High Interest Can Turn to Low.

[CBear]

Learned so much since I joined the forum and have entirely changed my mindset since. Still making discoveries though.

A new one is that a girl can ask you out, have a great date with a lot of awesome kino and making out every 10 minutes with her telling you how glad she is to have done this and how much she likes you. You can be a d0uche and press her buttons and make her laugh like crazy. Yet when you text her later in the week about going out the next week, everything can go cold after having her respond very quickly beforehand.

It was an interesting experience to go though and it goes to show you that you can do everything right (in your mind), yet they'll find something off or change their attention to someone else in an instant. Or maybe in some cases, they want to be with a beta male who is willing to take their bs? Who knows. Just don't be surprised if this happens.

-CBear

 

[sosousage]

yeah thats inevitable. happened to me ****load of times, even when i did things 'correctly' and in fact they were interested for a while.

theres no fix for this, too many men available for average looking women, all they need to do is to launch their phone - and thats not a problem, they are on their phones most of the day.


just ignore this and try to be HQ

 

[devilkingx2]

Learned so much since I joined the forum and have entirely changed my mindset since. Still making discoveries though.

A new one is that a girl can ask you out, have a great date with a lot of awesome kino and making out every 10 minutes with her telling you how glad she is to have done this and how much she likes you. You can be a d0uche and press her buttons and make her laugh like crazy. Yet when you text her later in the week about going out the next week, everything can go cold after having her respond very quickly beforehand.

It was an interesting experience to go though and it goes to show you that you can do everything right (in your mind), yet they'll find something off or change their attention to someone else in an instant. Or maybe in some cases, they want to be with a beta male who is willing to take their bs? Who knows. Just don't be surprised if this happens.

-CBear

either she's bipolar or her ex came back or her boyfriend made up with her.

alternatively, she wasn't sober when she liked you and she became boring and disinterested when she sobered up

 

[Young OG]

Learned so much since I joined the forum and have entirely changed my mindset since. Still making discoveries though.

A new one is that a girl can ask you out, have a great date with a lot of awesome kino and making out every 10 minutes with her telling you how glad she is to have done this and how much she likes you. You can be a d0uche and press her buttons and make her laugh like crazy. Yet when you text her later in the week about going out the next week, everything can go cold after having her respond very quickly beforehand.

It was an interesting experience to go though and it goes to show you that you can do everything right (in your mind), yet they'll find something off or change their attention to someone else in an instant. Or maybe in some cases, they want to be with a beta male who is willing to take their bs? Who knows. Just don't be surprised if this happens.

-CBear

I've had this happen to me many times. I'm not sure where you met her. If shes doing OLD, then this is not surprising. Usually they meet someone that they think is higher SMV, boyfriend came back, ex is back, she was having a bad day, or loads of other things. You could make your head spin thinking about why. All you can do is keep learning and keep trying to be the best version of yourself.

 

[Mazer]

Most of the time the ex is back in the picture.

 

[Dash Riprock]

They don't need a "reason" (ex bf, OLD, higher SMV male, t.) to do this. Women are hormone and emotionally driven. Immaturity, social pressures from friends, and PMS are other reasons. MANY women have a form of PMS that greatly affects their emotional state. They go cold, distant, and get bit*chy for no reason. Most guys freak out because they feel like they'll get dumped so they push and make things worse.

A LOT of advice on SS says dump a girl if she doesn't reply to your text right away. This is horrible advice and f*ucking ridiculous. Sit back, smile, and let the storm pass. All will be sunny again. No one can stay caring, loving, and engaged 100% of the time. People will be people. Chill.

Be a DJ, not an insecure wimp. Been there many times.

 

[TheGambino]

Actually it's funny, the same thing happened to me today. Chilled with this 18 yo chick a couple of weeks ago, made out, a great night. She was all over me for a week and begging me too meet up. She liked all my pictures on social media, ALL of them.

We did, took her out for an hour, talking and having fun. We made out like champs, she's a great kisser and I fingered her in my car and she was all wet and h0rney.

All of a sudden she blocks me on snapchat last week, I texted her on whatsapp and she said it was a mistake and ok, whatever.

Then we kept snapchatting and texting back and forth for a bit (not overdoing). Called her thursday to meet up tonight, she picks up and agrees. And now all of a sudden today she blocks me on whatsapp, she deletes and blocks me on facebook, snapchat, and instagram.

Why? No idea, but hell, i'm a DJ.

 

[17 shots]

Yea... but I do the same thing to women sometimes, so I can't really complain about it. I've gone really cold on women that I put in a lot of effort to win over, and sometimes I have no explanation for it lol. I'll just stop caring, and stop answering the phone

 

[Dingo]

They don't need a "reason" (ex bf, OLD, higher SMV male, t.) to do this. Women are hormone and emotionally driven. Immaturity, social pressures from friends, and PMS are other reasons. MANY women have a form of PMS that greatly affects their emotional state. They go cold, distant, and get bit*chy for no reason. Most guys freak out because they feel like they'll get dumped so they push and make things worse.

A LOT of advice on SS says dump a girl if she doesn't reply to your text right away. This is horrible advice and f*ucking ridiculous. Sit back, smile, and let the storm pass. All will be sunny again. No one can stay caring, loving, and engaged 100% of the time. People will be people. Chill.

Be a DJ, not an insecure wimp. Been there many times.

This....

 

[devilkingx2]

A LOT of advice on SS says dump a girl if she doesn't reply to your text right away. This is horrible advice and f*ucking ridiculous.

in my experience, most of the girls who do it make a habit of doing it, and you're in for frustration for as long as you deal with them.

so it's good advice if she makes a habit, bad advice if it's a one time thing.

a girl responding slowly one week won't kill you, but if she just stops responding whenever she feels like randomly or whenever she has anyone else's attention, tell her to fvck off.

 

[Macaframalama]

This is why is it is imperative to put forth the effort in learning and practicing in set calibration and getting her to invest sexually ASAP. ASAP meaning, operating right at, slightly above or slightly below her comfort level. Cat and mouse, push and pull. Push boundaries, watch for her reaction and calibrate accordingly, but the end game IS bedding her ASAP. Reminds me of one of the first dates i went on after my last relationship of two years. We met for dinner, after texting for a few days. Moderately sexual. The subject of her having a fat ass came up to which i said something like I'll have to see it to believe it or something like that. Initiated kino the second we met in the parking lot for dinner with a hug and extending her hand out and walking behind her to check out her ass out for myself and made a crack about she ain't lying. Shared a laugh and the dinner went well, plenty of initiated kino from her with arm swipes and touching my lower back at the counter when i was paying. She invited me back to her place for a movie, where i hesitantly mentioned work early a.m., but ultimately agreed. Got a call half way to her house for a raincheck and an excuse. I was caught changing gears from LTR mode to playing the field again and she was obviously looking to get fvcked. I knew what time it was in the moment, but i had questions about her character which ultimately made me hesitate, but the experience did further solidify what i had already known. If you are sexually objectifying and pushing boundaries from the onset and slam on the brakes, you are more often than not done dada. Its like watching what could have been a great movie if not for the chitty ending.

 

[sazc]

Yea... but I do the same thing to women sometimes, so I can't really complain about it. I've gone really cold on women that I put in a lot of effort to win over, and sometimes I have no explanation for it lol. I'll just stop caring, and stop answering the phone

Thank you for stopping all the butthurt!

Y'all act like chicks are heartless demons for this behavior when chicks experience the same thing, and y'all know it!

Sh1t happens, get over it.

The absolute best thing you can do for yourself or resize, it's not YOU it's HER. It is what it is, people get cold, people get scared, people get flaky. Just keep swimming!

 

[TheGambino]

Their interest was never truly THAT high to begin with.

I personally never take a woman's IL at face value in the moment. It is always what she does AFTER that, which reveals to me their true barometer of interest.

Take sex, for example. If you ever had what, to you, seemed like a great night of sex...she was into it, she had an orgasm, she told you it was the best sex she had in a while....but then she disappears for what seems like no reason after.... it is very possibly because the sex wasn't that great, she most likely faked that orgasm and she probably lied to you.

A woman who truly had a great night of sex with uncontrollably good orgasms who truly experiences something that was better than she has had in a long time will not just up and walk away without explanation. She will cling, she will contact you incisively. She will come over at 2am on a Tuesday night just to get another go at it, even if she has to be at work at 8am sharp. She will spend her entire day at work with no sleep leaning on one butt cheek because the other is too soar to sit on...and not care. She'll do it happily with a smile. And she'll keep texting you about it throughout her day.

A woman's IL after always tells you the truth about what it really was before.

This is so true. This is solid, after 100s of encounters and years of living the don Juan lifestyle.

 

[IKO69]

Just wasn't meant to be bro....don't beat yourself up over it. In hindisght her interest probably wasn't that high.

 

[CBear]

Just to be clear, I wanted to explore this observation in general and other peoples' take. I'm totally fine with what happened and I couldn't care less, I just find it interesting since it's a 1st for me.
In this particular scenario, we ran into eachother at a pool party (we've known eachother for a while. Actually TRIED to date her before I joined the forum and it was a similar result, just less interest to begin with), and she started acting very strange, sitting on my lap and whispering in my ear that she came just for me and that I turn her on and that she wants to go out while everyone else watched. Made out there too and I made plenty of sexual comments during the date after she asked me out. We were out all night during the date and she had work the next day at 5am so I was like wtf but she said she wanted to do it and was glad to do so. I remember her mentioning that she's a virgin lol (waiting till marriage) so admittedly, I wasn't expecting this to go anywhere, just aimed to have fun.

All the replies have been a good read and my point of this is that bs happens and you have to desensitize yourself to it. No reason to think about it cause it could be a logical reason, or many times, one that doesn't make sense to you. As someone who's been in the game for <1 year, I'm still learning but been proud of the progress so far.

 

[CBear]

Quick update: Got a message that she's sorry but she didn't enjoy the date. Onto the next.

 

[sazc]

Quick update: Got a message that she's sorry but she didn't enjoy the date. Onto the next.

In the end she reflected on how you were a douche, and how you liked pressing her buttons, and decided she valued herself more than to give you a second shot. Good for her. This is the chance you take pulling that crap. It also illustrates how women with self value, self worth and self esteem (the healthy non crazy ones) won't put up with that sh1t or those games. The crazy low self esteem ones lap it up.

In the end, based on your own description of the date, seems like your behavior killed the IL.

 

[CBear]

In the end she reflected on how you were a douche, and how you liked pressing her buttons, and decided she valued herself more than to give you a second shot. Good for her. This is the chance you take pulling that crap. It also illustrates how women with self value, self worth and self esteem (the healthy non crazy ones) won't put up with that sh1t or those games. The crazy low self esteem ones lap it up.

In the end, based on your own description of the date, seems like your behavior killed the IL.

In this scenario, she definitely reflected and decided it's not what she wanted. Good on her, good for me. My phone was also buzzing a lot throughout the night and she might have saw some tinder messages pop up when she looked at my phone. But don't assume anyone treated anyone like crap. Not taking crap and being more sure of myself while trying to make others feel well about themselves instead of only focusing on others is what has helped me grow and it is what has been getting me the numbers and dates in the first place so I know that each time, I'm getting closer to getting "it". As Amante Silvestre said, I admittedly need to work a little bit on having a more balanced ego and charm. But thats all a part of growing. Going from one extreme to the other before maintaining a healthy balance.

 

[sazc]

Crock of shyte

In fact, you know it's true and that's why it pushes your buttons

 

[CBear]

You wish

Hold on one sec, what do you consider d0uchey and belittling a person? Actively teasing and laughing at things once in a while without being disrespectful or harming them in any way? Kinda like us being around our buddies'? Or is being too stiff and not daring to laugh at anything a better option? Not on my watch.