Whats your number limit with Plates, contacting women, etc?

[ALnotAI]

I've known one guy ever who had a 'rotation.' All of his girls were in the 5-7 range. Most of his girls were in the 'why bother' category. The hottest was like a '7' and for reasons I won't go into here, she wasn't my type either. He literally had no women of high value in his rotation.

Another guy I knew had a score of like 200. I believed him. His girls were almost always in this range also. I saw several of them: cute, chubby ones, a few other plain janes. I did see him with a tall 7 or 8 once but she was the hottest by far.

All of that work and effort and barely a single hot girl in the mix out of dozens or hundreds.

And those were top level guys. And my male friends generally speaking are higher quality guys: 20 something, fit, good-normal personalities, well adjusted, and yet the more skilled/popular/good looking of them dealt almost exclusively with 5-7/10 caliber girls.

Based on what I've seen of PUA's, the girls in the 'rotations' of guys on this forum are likely of no higher caliber and probably of worse caliber.

In other words, don't bother. I have nothing against 5 or 6/10 caliber girls. But if you're looking for quality, any 8 or above is going to drop your a++ in a heartbeat if she finds out.

 

[ALnotAI]

Only 3 guys here posting their s€xual experiences/techniques with multiple women/plates/fwb?

Where's the bunch of guys who continously hound threads with their theories of chads, monkey branching, cheating, etc ? Come tell us ur real life experiences so that others might learn and benefit from it.

They're either not getting laid at all (Incel and/or kJ's) or they have rotations with average and below average looking girls. I would bet every dollar I have that not a single poster who claims a rotation in this thread has a girl above a 7 that can be verified.

In college and for my master's I dated several girls simultaneously. Many of them were friends, close friends, and it was informally understood that I would date all of them and it wouldn't be a problem. I never asked the girls about it. There just weren't any other acceptable guys in our social circle so I was the only one they would date. When the girls were together, they just ignored me (girl power) and talked amongst themselves, literally ignoring me completely. I was there for sex, not friendship. Girls were for friendship.

There are just not that many men that women find desirable so a small tier of men wind up ****ing all of the girls. I did date several of them longer term but there was no jealousy amongst them. As long as I dated them short or long term it was fine.

There were maybe 1 or 2 other guys who were my friends or acquaintances they were interested in as well, but those guys were too deep into their studies or too shy or both to hook up with these girls.

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So when you go out to the bars, it's not just a random assortment of guys and girls. People are mostly going out in groups, groups of friends who are reinforcing their bonds with one another. That's why it's so challenging for an outsider to break in, much less get laid by someone in these groups.

I've actually been pulled into some of these groups by the guys, but have also had girls pulled away from me by social circle guys. Same with the girls. The girls will act together to approach me, but a few will pull a girl away.

Without some bare minimum level understanding of these social circle cliques and dynamics, you are pretty much wasting your time.

Dating is competitive. Some might view it as very competitive.

A forum like this, you can assume that most of the girls here are 5 to 7 range girls. I don't mind 'tagging' the girls with a number in some of my posts. But generally, I don't mess around much with 5-6 caliber girls.

My friends have sometimes said this to me. 'You only approach girls if they are at least 8's.' Yeah, well duh. Who the f=ck wouldn't??

 

[Spaz]

In any of my postings, you'll notice that I've never gave any thought/post towards ranking of women. This is one of the rare times I'm posting abt it.

We'll I used to do that, talk abt it when in my teens and especially so during the times I lacked s€xual experiences, you know, ohhh thats a 10! and my fellow buddies will all nod their heads in agreement, we talked as if we've fvcked dozens, you know those locker room banters but as time and experience grew, women r either s€xy or not, is she tight or not, high mileage or not, that's it.

The preoccupation with HB's 5,6,7,8,9 -10 imo speaks volumes of any man's experience and expertise irl.

 

[ALnotAI]

OK, so let's not use numbers. How about:

below average
average (5)
cute, but not especially so (6)
really cute! (7)
hot
very hot
one of the hottest girls I've seen

Why bother typing all of that out when a 10 scale gives you the same information but in a more concise way?

Why type out seventy two when you can type out 72? It's exactly the same info, but one saves you time and effort. It has nothing to do with experience level.

 

[Spaz]

She's either fvckable (as in does ur d1ck go in auto mode) or not. That's it. Don't be preoccupied with levels. The details doesn't matter, when will people learn this 1 simple rule.

It's always the guys will low pvssy count talking abt levels...pffft.

Since I've been here, only 4 guys that has shown this forum of women that they been fvcking with pictures and chats. Mine is around somewhere, just look for it.

How about you add yours ? Don't need any s€xy pictures or chat, just a simple good morning greeting from any women will do.

I bet most of the guys here don't even have that.

 

[ALnotAI]

She's either fvckable (as in does ur d1ck go in auto mode) or not. That's it. Don't be preoccupied with levels. The details doesn't matter, when will people learn this 1 simple rule.

It's always the guys will low pvssy count talking abt levels...pffft.

Since I've been here, only 4 guys that has shown this forum of women that they been fvcking with pictures and chats. Mine is around somewhere, just look for it.

How about you add yours ? Don't need any s€xy pictures or chat, just a simple good morning greeting from any women will do.

I bet most of the guys here don't even have that.

Some of my posts have already been discovered and caused problems, even in 'protected' or 'private' chats. So I'm very cautious now.

I find hot girls more attractive than cute or plain or ugly ones. That's just the way I am. I think most every man is like this. It's just that some guys can't score hot girls. Some can't even score cute girls. Some guys can't score a girl at all, not even if they are willing to pay.

So, you settle or come up with some rationalization of why a 10 and 5 are exactly the same (fvckable) when in reality that's not the case at all. Hot women are hotter than plain and ugly ones. That's why they're called plain and ugly.

Just like a 22 room mansion with private tennis courts, indoor full gym, basketball courts, swimming pools, full arcade, bowling alley, maids, attendants, home chefs, manicured lawns and garden, gorgeous view of the ocean and city, priceless artwork, stable of horses, is nicer than a crackhouse. Yeah, they both have a roof but somehow the crackhouse is not quite as nice.

This is just acknowledgement of reality. I'll have to find the citation but a man produces more sperm when having sex with a hotter woman than a plain looking woman. A movie with a hotter woman sells more tickets than a movie with a plain or ugly woman.

Who do you want to see on screen for 2 or 3 hours? Charlize Theron and Scarlett Johannsen or a random fat, ugly woman?

No need to get defensive. Some people are higher value than others. Some homes are higher value than others. Some cars are better and higher value than others. A Ford Fiesta costs less than a lambo. A plastic shed in a cracked out neighborhood in Oklahoma costs less than a coastal beach home in Malibu.

It's this weird political correctness that's taken over. All girls are equally hot, no numbers. You can't keep score in a game. All of it is just lies to make average and below average feel like they are just as good as everyone else when they are not. It's just communist, politically correct delusion.

 

[ALnotAI]

Just call a spade a spade.

A hot girl is hot.

A cute girl is cute.

A plain girl is plain.

An ugly girl is ugly.

A fat girl is fat.

Just stop with this 1's and 10's are equal because they're both fvckable bullish-t.

 

[Spaz]

Some of my posts have already been discovered and caused problems, even in 'protected' or 'private' chats. So I'm very cautious now.

Rolfmao!

I knew it.

It's easily side step, just see how I and guru1000 post ours.

Plus for me, it's one of those ONS chicks that I've posted, so it's not a problem.

Like I said, many can't even get a simple hello or a good morning greeting from any girl but they're here all talking abt women. Nerds and their theory.

 

[ALnotAI]

I don't post anything that's even remotely identifiable. All of my posts, I change or omit details to avoid this possibility. I will never post a screenshot from my phone under any circumstances. It's not worth the hassle.

I don't have a tinder account, I don't use online dating, I have nothing identifiable on any social media account. Even then, people have discovered me very easily online. One of the biggest complaints I get from women is that I don't use social media. Women I've found like to use social media to accidentally bump into me by coincidence.

I've met lots of bro's from the community. Not a single pua I've ever met has a hot girlfriend. Not one. A screenshot of a text message doesn't show or prove anything. Any text message can be easily photoshopped anyway. I've met the pua guys and quite frankly, most are banging fatties and plain looking girls. And those are the successful ones. Even the "naturals" are banging mostly fatties and plain looking girls.

Even the grandmasters like Neil Strauss don't have hot girlfriends. His girls are trashy, tattooed up, on drugs, terrible lifestyles. So you can be certain that the guys attending their seminars are doing far worse.

Anyone taking what I'm writing as a personal attack is only doing so because the know what I am writing is accurate.

To the OP, whoever it is, forget about any advice in this forum. I like to vent and rant and read posts on this forum for entertainment. No one is silly enough to believe there is any valid advice here.

 

[ALnotAI]

Rolfmao!

I knew it.

It's easily side step, just see how I and guru1000 post ours.

Plus for me, it's one of those ONS chicks that I've posted, so it's not a problem.

Like I said, many can't even get a simple hello or a good morning greeting from any girl but they're here all talking abt women. Nerds and their theory.

In any event, you have 1700 posts in just six months, which is 300 a month or 10 a day for 6 straight months. Which means you aren't getting laid lol.

 

[Spaz]

In any event, you have 1700 posts in just six months, which is 300 a month or 10 a day for 6 straight months. Which means you aren't getting laid lol.

I knew it.

I've answered that particular question in the past, look it up buddy. I'm sure by now u r scouting through my postings lmao

 

[Spaz]

In any event, you have 1700 posts in just six months, which is 300 a month or 10 a day for 6 straight months. Which means you aren't getting laid lol.

Says the guy who gives a hella long posting of why he can't even give us any "sample" of even 1 "hello" from even a fat ugly chick.

Okay, I'll even make it simple and easy. How abt a simple "good morning" from your mom?

 

[Roober]

2-3 for me tops. With my kids and social life, any more than that and I fall behind on everything. When I first came to SS, I would date 5-6 women a week, but then tired as crap when I had my boys, missing the gym, my house was a mess, and i was eating out everyday.

Any more than 2-3, and I just dont enjoy it as much either. There is far more important things in life than getting laid.

 

[marmel75]

I've known one guy ever who had a 'rotation.' All of his girls were in the 5-7 range. Most of his girls were in the 'why bother' category. The hottest was like a '7' and for reasons I won't go into here, she wasn't my type either. He literally had no women of high value in his rotation.

Another guy I knew had a score of like 200. I believed him. His girls were almost always in this range also. I saw several of them: cute, chubby ones, a few other plain janes. I did see him with a tall 7 or 8 once but she was the hottest by far.

All of that work and effort and barely a single hot girl in the mix out of dozens or hundreds.

And those were top level guys. And my male friends generally speaking are higher quality guys: 20 something, fit, good-normal personalities, well adjusted, and yet the more skilled/popular/good looking of them dealt almost exclusively with 5-7/10 caliber girls.

Based on what I've seen of PUA's, the girls in the 'rotations' of guys on this forum are likely of no higher caliber and probably of worse caliber.

In other words, don't bother. I have nothing against 5 or 6/10 caliber girls. But if you're looking for quality, any 8 or above is going to drop your a++ in a heartbeat if she finds out.

That's the key...if she finds out. Why are you offering up information they aren't asking for until after you have banged multiple times?

Not providing information is not the same as being dishonest.

OLD is tremendous for finding women who don't know each other and for women in small towns 15-20 miles away in various directions.

 

[Murk]

I keep it very simple these days: 2 steady and stable plates with a third "open/prospect" position in which I have a true IDGAF attitude when it comes to filling it.

The 2 steady plates, however, must have certain criteria in order to take up the position:

1. Strictly FWB and it is understood to be as such.

2. Both women have lives and busy schedules which somewhat limit their availability. I do not want 2 women with nothing to do vying for the same time slots constantly every weekend, for example, which forces me to consistently choose, balance and try to keep it all afloat. Ideally, if each woman is usually available on opposite weekends, this is the most optimal, stress-free, easy scenario for me.

RIght now I have one steady plate I set up regular nights out with, such as every other Saturday night, an evening during the week here and there, etc.

The other is the "handyman special" I spoke of in another thread. Booty call. She calls me when she needs something "fixed" and I just tell her when I am available to drop by.

When I have two women that fit the bill, I have all that I need and minimum effort.

The third "open/prospect" position is the occasional date I might set up just to flesh out new potentials, when or if, one of the steady plates start to become a question mark for any reason (boring, drama, dying interest levels... anything that tends to kill the arrangement in time).

This is also my potential, "quality woman" window: an opportunity for the right woman to come along in my life who might be worthy of something a little more. With these women, I can very easily maintain high standards, a heavy screening process, patience, abundance mentality, IDGAF, etc.... all of those traits.... without an ounce of "self control" required to maintain it. It is all natural and real, not forced like a game..... a distinction which has an aura entirely of its own. I will even consider platonic friendships with hot women with this slot just to widen the social circle and access to other women. I don't care. All gains made with this position never hurt.

This is why I maintain a 100% passive approach to OLD. I do not contact. I do not reach out and write to women first. I only consider those who contact me. I keep a very high standard and will ignore and sometimes even flake even on attractive women for any reason I see fit for myself.

This is great, I have never found a girl happy with seeing me every other week though. I've found girls that get frustrated, leave, then are easily roped back in, probably the closest thing I have to what you're describing here, very stressful and kind of the reason I'm not bothering, last date/sex was like 3/4 weeks ago that even feels weird to type out.

Oh, did you cash that cheque yet?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Even responding to 3-5 different ladies texts and phone calls diminish my focus.

 

[AJ84]

I've known one guy ever who had a 'rotation.' All of his girls were in the 5-7 range. Most of his girls were in the 'why bother' category. The hottest was like a '7' and for reasons I won't go into here, she wasn't my type either. He literally had no women of high value in his rotation.

Another guy I knew had a score of like 200. I believed him. His girls were almost always in this range also. I saw several of them: cute, chubby ones, a few other plain janes. I did see him with a tall 7 or 8 once but she was the hottest by far.

All of that work and effort and barely a single hot girl in the mix out of dozens or hundreds.

And those were top level guys. And my male friends generally speaking are higher quality guys: 20 something, fit, good-normal personalities, well adjusted, and yet the more skilled/popular/good looking of them dealt almost exclusively with 5-7/10 caliber girls.

Based on what I've seen of PUA's, the girls in the 'rotations' of guys on this forum are likely of no higher caliber and probably of worse caliber.

In other words, don't bother. I have nothing against 5 or 6/10 caliber girls. But if you're looking for quality, any 8 or above is going to drop your a++ in a heartbeat if she finds out.

I think it’s assumed, unless otherwise stated, that two people in the casual dating phase are still meeting up with other people. Most women assume this in the beginning of dating and they keep their options open. If they feel that it’s a FWB situation,they keep their options open. If they don’t see the situation progressing into anything meaningful, they keep their options open. If they are just using the guy for sex/money/ social status, they keep their options open. If they are not that into the guy but it’s something to do or an ego boost, they keep their options open.

Any woman who seems ok with being a perpetual plate to you, and is not keeping her options open, is most likely dumber than a bag of rocks with low value low self esteem. Or you are her side plate and she is in relationship with someone else.

Women don’t like to share men, and typically, have no interest in being in some guy’s rotation when a better deal is available which is probably why you don’t see a lot of very hot higher value women sticking around as one of many plates. They don’t have to settle for that.

 

[ALnotAI]

I knew it.

I've answered that particular question in the past, look it up buddy. I'm sure by now u r scouting through my postings lmao

I'm pretty sure I know who this poster is anyway. It's the same one who spams EVERY pua forum out there with dozens of accounts at the same time, and you've been banned from every single one lol.

Guys this SPAZ account is an OCD psycho who is absolutely obsessed with pua and literally creates dozen os accounts EVERYWHERE and basically posts 24/7 on pickup forums. This poster lives at home, has no job, and lives on the internet his entire day and life.

More details forthcoming. I doubt I'll waste my time much. Much more satisfying to see him rot away on the computer.

 

[ALnotAI]

Says the guy who gives a hella long posting of why he can't even give us any "sample" of even 1 "hello" from even a fat ugly chick.

Okay, I'll even make it simple and easy. How abt a simple "good morning" from your mom?

I knew it.

I've answered that particular question in the past, look it up buddy. I'm sure by now u r scouting through my postings lmao

Yeah, it's a pickup guy from the Sacramento area. He never gets laid but loves going to Gay Pride Parades all over Cali lol. He's been banned from every pickup community and forum he's ever been a part of. He used to spam Casanova crew like crazy and basically lies and makeup sh1t and lie through this teeth. He says random, crazy sh1t to try to get a reaction. Look up "sexter" from Casanova crew.

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[marmel75]

I think it’s assumed, unless otherwise stated, that two people in the casual dating phase are still meeting up with other people. Most women assume this in the beginning of dating and they keep their options open. If they feel that it’s a FWB situation,they keep their options open. If they don’t see the situation progressing into anything meaningful, they keep their options open. If they are just using the guy for sex/money/ social status, they keep their options open. If they are not that into the guy but it’s something to do or an ego boost, they keep their options open.

Any woman who seems ok with being a perpetual plate to you, and is not keeping her options open, is most likely dumber than a bag of rocks with low value low self esteem. Or you are her side plate and she is in relationship with someone else.

Women don’t like to share men, and typically, have no interest in being in some guy’s rotation when a better deal is available which is probably why you don’t see a lot of very hot higher value women sticking around as one of many plates. They don’t have to settle for that.

Which is why its called a "rotation"...they drop out at some point