Situational Neediness - GF became distant after going out of town - Going No Contact a good idea?

[Spaz]

Corey Wayne is not only fvcking ugly, he seriously doesn't give off any masculine vibe to attract even a HB 6.

And as for you OP, with your extreme neediness and even more extreme naivety, I've serious doubts that you even had 3 fvcks in your entire life.

Even an ugly girl should be ashamed to be out with you.

U r like a 12 year old kid stuck in a adult body. No bloody wonder your parents r pushing you 2 call her, you're still in dire need of parental guidance.

Don't even talk abt her anymore. She gone.

Let her have a 1/2 man or even a 1/4 man, it's so much better then having a boy. Have some pity on her boy.

Best thing you could do is stop listening to that loser Corey Wayne and go read the DJ Bible, really solid stuff there.

 

[resilient]

Best thing you could do is stop listening to that loser Corey Wayne and go read the DJ Bible, really solid stuff there.

My issue with Corey Wayne is if you watch his videos on YouTube, he takes forever to get to a point, so you have to listen a while for his one nugget of info. Most of it though you could write off as common sense with enough dating experience. Many of the questions he reads off from his emails are asinine that look amateur for this forum or experienced DJs.

Some other good books are The Daily Stoic, The Emperor's Handbook: Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, and Way of the Superior Man.

 

[jacketrunner]

Corey Wayne is not only fvcking ugly, he seriously doesn't give off any masculine vibe to attract even a HB 6.

And as for you OP, with your extreme neediness and even more extreme naivety, I've serious doubts that you even had 3 fvcks in your entire life.

Even an ugly girl should be ashamed to be out with you.

U r like a 12 year old kid stuck in a adult body. No bloody wonder your parents r pushing you 2 call her, you're still in dire need of parental guidance.

Don't even talk abt her anymore. She gone.

Let her have a 1/2 man or even a 1/4 man, it's so much better then having a boy. Have some pity on her boy.

Best thing you could do is stop listening to that loser Corey Wayne and go read the DJ Bible, really solid stuff there.

Lol I can see why you think that. I have very little relationship experience. I hook up with girls from bars and dating apps. I haven't had a relationship since college (6 years ago), and it was short-lived.

Thanks I'll read the DJ bible.

 

[jacketrunner]

My issue with Corey Wayne is if you watch his videos on YouTube, he takes forever to get to a point, so you have to listen a while for his one nugget of info. Most of it though you could write off as common sense with enough dating experience. Many of the questions he reads off from his emails are asinine that look amateur for this forum or experienced DJs.

Some other good books are The Daily Stoic, The Emperor's Handbook: Meditations of Marcus Aurelius, and Way of the Superior Man.

Yeah he'll just go on forever about some bull**** life experience he had and contradict himself, although the definite date strategy and limited texting is effective. Thanks I'll check those books out.

It's funny... this post describes exactly what I'm going through:
https://www.girlschase.com/comment/79274

"Quick: how productive is a man who suspects (or knows) his woman is cheating on him?
How fully is he devoted toward building his business?
Learning that new skill he wants to learn?
Giving back good things to mankind?
He's nothing but a worthless, steaming, simmering pile of out-of-control emotions, isn't he?
The greatest threat a woman who may be straying from you poses is not to your ability to reproduce (you can always paternity test up, and give her the boot if the result comes back negative).
Nor is it catching STDs, which always sound horrible but are more often than not annoyances rather than deadly diseases or lifelong afflictions.
It is, rather, something I refer to as "The Whirlwind of Chaos."
The men I've known who most frequently have women who are cheating on them or seem like they might be are also, by no coincidence, the friends who spend the most time being buffeted about by the gale force winds of The Whirlwind of Chaos."

I used to be an emotionally healthy person, but now I'm posting on a relationship message boards. I should probably just end this relationship ASAP so I can focus on myself again.

 

[Toddz]

Sh!t like this ticks me off. When they're in the middle of branches trying to sort out your competition and feels. The hot/cold is weighing whether she should invest more in you or the other guy(s). Delayed response times in text messaging or short obscure message that isn't conveying warmth and sincerity.

It's the uglier side of dating that men and women have to deal with unfortunately.

However, it's not okay when someone manipulates you into "exclusivity" then starts doing it.

 

[jacketrunner]

I screened her for relationship qualities beforehand:
+great relationship with Dad, who is in idyllic relationship with Mom and loves her
+introduced me to her friends and family... family is really solid, smart, and in long-term happy marriages
+told me she couldn't sleep with me the first night bc "she didn't know me well enough"
+almost no drama, very little manipulation (she responded to texts right away, even when I felt her being a little distant)
+complete transparency with phone (gave me passcode) and computer
+smart, hard-working
+very eager to please: cooks, etc.
+when watching shows, if infidelity happened, she would get viscerally pissed: "I hate the fact they're justifying infidelity"
+to the best of my knowledge, she was completely honest with me. I never caught her in a lie

That's why this is coming as a bit of a shock, and I want to believe there could be a miscommunication. I'm not excluding the possibility (or even probability) of her cheating, but she seemed about as trustworthy as it gets.

 

[jacketrunner]

could be an AWALT life lesson for me

 

[resilient]

Although those were all good initial qualities, J. The way she has treated you since she got back into town shows a clear role reversal and lack of interest and respect.

Highly interested women can do and say all the right things to get a man hooked. Once they know they have you, they can back off and stop trying to impress so hard. Especially after the honeymoon is over and the real persona emerges.

Cheating or not, she's not investing further into you or the possibility of a LTR. That's why we keep telling you to leave your options open for someone that will presently show interest and want to develop something with you.

Don't be afraid to put your needs first.

 

[jacketrunner]

Although those were all good initial qualities, J. The way she has treated you since she got back into town shows a clear role reversal and lack of interest and respect.

Highly interested women can do and say all the right things to get a man hooked. Once they know they have you, they can back off and stop trying to impress so hard. Especially after the honeymoon is over and the real persona emerges.

Cheating or not, she's not investing further into you or the possibility of a LTR. That's why we keep telling you to leave your options open for someone that will presently show interest and want to develop something with you.

Don't be afraid to put your needs first.

Forsure, just gotta treat this behavior is unacceptable, and be willing to walk away.

 

[Murk]

Another clue...hanging out 5 times a week. Again, you basically made her your entire life early on in the relationship. This is NOT attractive. She knows she has you pretty much wrapped around her little pinky at this point which is also NOT attractive.

Was about to post this (bless you marmel)

5 times a week bro!? With my ex the max was 4, usually 2 or 3 with next morning then off to work.

You have doted after this broad, already admitted to us to you love her (way to fvcking soon bro) - you may have just come on too needy, ok ok I get it she initiated, they're meant to, you didn't do enough aloofing, or enough living your best life, she became you living your best life and maybe needed some time out. In that time out (3/4 weeks) you haven't had free access to her phone. If she's as hot as you say she is, she only need 4 hours to scoop up another dude, 4 hours, she's had nearly 4 weeks.

Fvck the work excuse, I've been in a relationship when work/home/friends/family - everything - falling apart - you make time for those that matter.

Fvck the mini argument we had in this thread, you are making excuses and trying to retionalise how you, handsome and charismatic as you are, can't seem to attract this girl anymore... Good learning curve for you here, we are all fallible. Live and learn.

Update us.

 

[Murk]

. She was definitely in love with me before she left to home, was always asking me things like “what do you think about all day?” And I would say “lots of stuff... what do you think about?” And she’d say “I think a lot about you... do you think about me? Do you like hanging out with me?”

She was 100% in love with me until at least the moment she left.

That doesn't = love

That = women's typical desire to be wanted and needed

Cmon man you fell for this girl without proper screening, easily done, you will learn from this

 

[jacketrunner]

That doesn't = love

That = women's typical desire to be wanted and needed

Cmon man you fell for this girl without proper screening, easily done, you will learn from this

That’s being “in love” — feeling out of control and uncertain. Real love would take a lot longer to develop.

I don’t think I’ve ever truly loved someone outside of my family.

 

[jacketrunner]

Was about to post this (bless you marmel)

5 times a week bro!? With my ex the max was 4, usually 2 or 3 with next morning then off to work.

You have doted after this broad, already admitted to us to you love her (way to fvcking soon bro) - you may have just come on too needy, ok ok I get it she initiated, they're meant to, you didn't do enough aloofing, or enough living your best life, she became you living your best life and maybe needed some time out. In that time out (3/4 weeks) you haven't had free access to her phone. If she's as hot as you say she is, she only need 4 hours to scoop up another dude, 4 hours, she's had nearly 4 weeks.

Fvck the work excuse, I've been in a relationship when work/home/friends/family - everything - falling apart - you make time for those that matter.

Fvck the mini argument we had in this thread, you are making excuses and trying to retionalise how you, handsome and charismatic as you are, can't seem to attract this girl anymore... Good learning curve for you here, we are all fallible. Live and learn.

Update us.

True that, I’m being a needy *****, but at least I’m a good-looking needy *****.

Or maybe I’m an ugly troll making up this entire story. Who knows?

 

[Murk]

This story is too tragic and filled with beta to be a troll, I can literally smell the floral, citrus, fruity, vegetal, earthy smell in the whine. Let's not forgot Deontay's semen.

Pungent thread.

Update us.

I hope she gives birth in 5 months to a black baby.

 

[jacketrunner]

This story is too tragic and filled with beta to be a troll, I can literally smell the floral, citrus, fruity, vegetal, earthy smell in the whine. Let's not forgot Deontay's semen.

Pungent thread.

Update us.

I hope she gives birth in 5 months to a black baby.

I love the poetic language. Keep up the good work.

 

[Murk]

I love the poetic language. Keep up the good work.

magnum opus

 

[The Diver]

The thing is, a girls interest level rises with time and distance,

A woman going cold on you for a month and you trying to raise her interest level?

All this scenario is extremely harmful to your "frame". You have to be sharp when you smell BS. You give her one or two lifelines, if nothing changes, you eject and move on. No place for a time waster. Adapting that attitude will save you a lot of time in the future. Learn to trust your guts.

(btw, guts instinct is learning curve on giving subject. It's like fishing, you can't see where the fish are, but your experience from the previous encounter will tell you where they are under the surface. This is a gut instinct. As you get more experience, you guts instinct will be more accurate, but you have to start somewhere )

 

[jacketrunner]

A woman going cold on you for a month and you trying to raise her interest level?

All this scenario is extremely harmful to your "frame". You have to be sharp when you smell BS. You give her one or two lifelines, if nothing changes, you eject and move on. No place for a time waster. Adapting that attitude will save you a lot of time in the future. Learn to trust your guts.

(btw, guts instinct is learning curve on giving subject. It's like fishing, you can't see where the fish are, but your experience from the previous encounter will tell you where they are under the surface. This is a gut instinct. As you get more experience, you guts instinct will be more accurate, but you have to start somewhere )

Yeah youre probably right. It’s the first serious girlfriend I’ve had, so I have very little experience in LTRs.

The thing is, we banged and she gave me a bl0wjob the last day we saw each other, and a kiss the last moment we saw each other, so it seems weird to break up when nothing has actively happened aside from distance.

She’s never done anything to actively piss me off when we’ve been together, and all our communication has been textual. Some of my texts could definitely be interpreted as rude and uncaring.

Despite the fact she doesn’t seem to be respectful, I want to break up with my first serious girlfriend in person.

I could be wrong to think this, but my gut is telling me it’s the right move to wait it out.

Then again, I’m a BETA CUCK with a SCARCITY MINDSET who should treat every girl as replaceable to keep her interested.

 

[RedScorpion]

If your gut is telling you to wait it out, then I’d do that. If nothing else but for the experiment of it.

 

[The Diver]

If your gut is telling you to wait it out, then I’d do that. If nothing else but for the experiment of it.

Yea, I didn't think about that. For experimenting, learning, and sharping his guts feeling, this a good idea, as long as he doesn't expect too much out of it, lol,,,