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Nice guys don’t want hot girls in their 30s

CBear

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Yes but it is tough to convince those 20 year olds of this. They think you are talking rubbish or are ancient lol. It's the reality however. Those that do the work will be rewarded handsomely later on.
It's like you are reading my mind. The buds that are my age are a good group of guys but it's like most of them haven't even started opening their eyes yet. It's likely that some of them never will until they get real hurt. It's one of the only frustrations I've had since joining SoSuave.
 

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The problem is the sense of entitlement from attention women receive nowadays from OLD and social media. Women's attitude towards men have shifted dramatically the last decade or so. It's getting harder (in my experience) to raise or maintain their interest level with so many options.

A guy's game has to be rock solid to maintain frame and she has to know the guy has options to stay interested. If he doesn't or senses that he doesn't, she's likely to lose interest fast without competition and look for the next challenge or circle back to an orbiter or ex.

The ability to pair bond with a new partner and form a lasting LTR is harder after having loads up hook ups, abusive relationships and divorces once they start navigating their 30s, heart matters become complicated. Relationships don't start and flow easily. There's more resistance. More interpersonal reservations.

Guys aren't approaching women in massive quantities IRL. Yet... online the flood gates open when they make an OLD or social media account with selfies, etc. Too many thirsty dudes out there sliding into their DMs hoping for a date or hook up.

I d/l coffee meets bagel last week. I found a good match and hit the like button. Do you know what happened next? I got a prompt on the app saying there are 50 guys in front of me waiting for her response, yet if I spent my earned bean "currency" or pay for a premium; I can move up the line. WTF? No!

I imagine without the proper lighting, angles, new photos the attention will go down at some point post-wall.

What most of the women struggle with is weeding out the desperate AFCs for their top pick(s). They ghost, radio silence, ignore or block the ones they aren't interested in dating. Nice guys (w/o game) don't get them excited are glanced over.

Not every nice guy like the author says becomes super successful in his 30s. He probably worked hard on his LMS to raise his SMV, yet is hurting to stay afloat and forge ahead. What is hurting him though is his attitude of becoming cynical from compound rejection.

I will end by saying it would serve him well to create a fun life, have great social spheres, hobbies, and strong family relationships. She can tag along. If he's smart, he'll continue to screen the ones with high mileage, AW, professional daters, and other toxic types.
What was it they said about giving children too much attention... as if the world centred on them... that's right... how to spoil them. Women today are quite literally spoilt.
 

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It's like you are reading my mind. The buds that are my age are a good group of guys but it's like they haven't even started opening their eyes yet. It's likely that some of them never will until they get real hurt. It's one of the frustrations I've had since joining SoSuave.
It should also be mentioned that when I say something, i'm not saying it because it sounds nice. I am coming from a position of experience. As far as my last post I was that 20 year old! I knew what I should've been done and I didn't do it....I made every ****ing rookie mistake in the book x100 when it comes to women. So that is why sometimes my posts might sound harsh. I am actually not trying to be but I sometimes have to phrase it in a certain way because I have found it is the best way to get the message across to some people. It is better that someone is blunt and perhaps says things in a way that hurts your feelings rather than taking the wrong path and then waking up one day and be like 'what the ****'.

I know people I grew up with (my age) who were just as bad with women and still are. Nothing has changed and they do nothing about it. The real kicker is they are so self righteous and have too much pride to admit they are the problem (and they are). Don't be like these people.
 

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It is better that someone is blunt and perhaps says things in a way that hurts your feelings rather than taking the wrong path and then waking up one day and be like 'what the ****'.
& I am thankful for that. That's the beauty of life in many cases. We go through experiences, we fvck up and we fvck up some more. Then there are the people, that in this case, open their eyes about certain things in life. Doesn't matter if one is 20, 30, or 40 because as you mention, some people never wake up from their dreams so to speak and never choose to better themselves.
 

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I read this article and the first thing I thought of that this guy is the classic AFC who's still butt hurt after being rejected. Even in my bluest of blue bill days, I never did the crap that he did. Though, for my wife, I did get her a gift on her birthday and our anniversary; so shoot me. I have a feeling a lot of men born in the late 70's and on have the same thoughts and feelings. They watch those 80's movies and the TV shows and think that is how women want to be treated. WRONG. Less is more. Give and take. That's the way it works. And, if it doesn't work out, move on to the next one. With over 3.5 billion women in the world, there's always a next.
It's very.very simple. One doesn't fawn over a woman or show her that you're so stoked to get her your falling over yourself to keep her happy.

One treats her more like one of your mates,

Game this, game that, it's just not being creepy.
 

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That article's opening sickens me. Here's another guy believing that "doing something" calculated is "supposed" to make the woman like him, like a video game walkthrough. Maybe that's where he got his ideas of how to interact with women from? they aren't really humans, they're like the pixels in the dating video games he plays. Just click on option A, B or C and out comes the pre-programmed result from the non-living script. Buying her sh*t, doing preconceived gestures like holding doors, trying to impress her. Just shut the fvck up and listen to her and ask her questions, stop talking about your job or your car or whatever it is and then complain either that she lost interest or that she's "materialistic". Stop "remembering our anniversary" and "buying her flowers" because you think that's what'll make you a "nice guy" and she is supposed to like "nice guys". It just makes you a two-faced slime.

This guy is putting on an insincere act, and then blames the woman for it. What a pathetic way to live your life.

We have to disassociate these kinds of guys from our "sphere".


A few years ago, in one of the apps chat room, one of the popular guy there, a highly educated man, 6" and good-looking, (as from his avatar photo), stated, that he's looking for " a lady to please and serve " (his own words !) ."He will open the car door for her, pull her chair, buy her flower, surprise her with chocolate " , and so on and on,,,

When I tried to knock some sense into him, that this is not the way to "win a woman", he fought me like a tiger, with the help of all the " Ladies " defending his chivalrous acts.

But surprise surprise, he was already on that apps for the past 10 years, looking for a lady to "please and serve,,,,,"

I have to say, at that time, I shook my head, couldn't understand how such a highly educated man, can be so blind and stupid.
 
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Who Dares Win

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A few years ago, in one of the apps chat room, one of the popular guy there, a highly educated man, 6" and good-looking, (as from his avatar photo), stated, that he's looking for " a lady to please and serve " (his own words !) ."He will open the car door for her, pull her chair, buy her flower, surprise her with chocolate " , and so on and on,,,

When I tried to knock some sense into him, that this is not the way to "win a woman", he fought me like a tiger, with the help of all the " Ladies " defending his chivalrous acts.

But surprise surprise, he was already on that apps for the past 10 years, looking for a lady to "please and serve,,,,,"

I have to say, at that time, I shook my head, couldn't understand how such a highly educated man, can be so blind and stupid.
Thats probably cause mainstream education is about now...brainwashing of your inner self while teaching you concepts and notions.

If you were to bet on who has the better "game", would you bet on a guy with basic education working a blue collar job or a guy with top education working a white collar one?
 

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Now that I am eligible for AARP, I find myself somewhat attracted to women in their early 30s.
 

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The author, since he did not get the girls in his 20s, does not want these girls now that he is in his 30s.

Does Sosuave empthasize?

https://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-stev...y-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/
A good friend of mine (he, mid 50s, gal early 50s) seems to be getting married to gal that he had been set up on a date 10 years prior, but that seemed to not be interested - but lo & behold, when they met up a few years ago at just random, she was a lot more interested. :rolleyes:
 

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Not every nice guy like the author says becomes super successful in his 30s. He probably worked hard on his LMS to raise his SMV, yet is hurting to stay afloat and forge ahead. What is hurting him though is his attitude of becoming cynical from compound rejection.
:up::up:
 

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A good friend of mine (he, mid 50s, gal early 50s) seems to be getting married to gal that he had been set up on a date 10 years prior, but that seemed to not be interested - but lo & behold, when they met up a few years ago at just random, she was a lot more interested. :rolleyes:
So she got ran thru till the very last second and latched onto him.
 
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