Nofap: Why it works

[mrgoodstuff]

Simply saying it doesn't prove it. Many of the studies I was talking about were not about masturbation, but about whether or not intercourse raises testosterone long term. It does not appear that the scientific community has gathered enough evidence at this time to come to a conclusion.

I don't buy the idea that feminists are pushing for masturbation. It makes more sense for them to be anti-masturbation, because that makes men more reliant on women for sex. But many studies come from manufacturers looking to sell products, and those might be suspect.

Again, I don't see enough evidence at this point to draw a conclusion either way.

The masturbation angle was pushing self pleasure on woman. Reducing need for men. It also removes possibility for her to get hooked on man's cawk or sex skills. This is feminism.

Anyways this area interested me years ago and I told you my finding. I knew the answer.

Plus as a man without scientific evidence I knew I felt more virile as a man when I could obtain sex easily and my balls and cawk hang Fuller and lower when I have steady sex.

It's wise for us to all be able to obtain sex and not be dependant upon masturbation.

Do you believe a man whose been cvcked against his will is going to have more testosterone flowing in his system?

What about a man dominated in prison and occasionally raped? Will he have more or less?

What about a man whose dominated and bossed around by his wife?

Your mindstate effects your hormone levels my good man.

 

[zekko]

Your mindstate effects your hormone levels my good man.

State of mind varies with the individual.

Anyway, I am not arguing for masturbation or saying that steady sex with women doesn't have any benefit.
I am saying that there does not appear to be enough scientific evidence at present to conclude that sex raises testosterone levels long term.

 

[Spaz]

Well you nailed that. Yes, if a man isn't getting pvssy or having a serious hard time of getting it he's having a social issue.

Then we can safely conclude that nofap fanboys r just not getting pvssy, with their social issues ?

And they typically jump from one ideology 2 the next when things dont pan out?

1st there's the whole Mr. BPD threads, then the Mr. Cratered SMV threads, then the Mr. Hypergamy threads and now we hv the Mr. Nofap fanboys threads. It all points 2 not taking responsibility on their own shortcomings and worst they blame it on something other then themselves. Pure cowardice.

Where's the Mr. Take Responsibility threads or Mr. Self improvement threads?

 

[corrector]

Every man should be able to obtain sex unless he's in jail.

How do you figure that? Incels would disagree with that statement.

 

[skinnyguy]

Every man should be able to obtain sex unless he's in jail.

Guys in jail get conjugal visits. Not to mention when they drop the soap

 

[MrJack]

I’m not in opposition to those that do nofap based on religious beliefs or something similar, but I do think ur ideas are simplistic, naive and promote a sad, reductionist and distorted view of male sexuality and masculinity.

There's nothing new abt what u hv been saying. A couple of hundred years ago physicians has been saying the same thing and promoted the idea that masturbation was a medical illness which weakened the male spirit and created immorality and ill health.

It's a myth.

Science since then has debunked those myths.

Nofap fanboys regurgitate a lot of old myths about how refraining from masturbation helps them to be more energetic, more sexual, more virile, and more manly.

That’s a little sad.

I’m not talking about any sort of religious standpoint on it.

Also I’m saying masturbation WITH/TO porn. Not just masturbation, that is fine in moderation.

Let me ask you this, have you ever tried it? I mean really tried it for at least a month? Are you the type of person that has self control of his peni$ or do you succumb to every urge you have?

You sound a lot like the people on nofap forum that constantly try to rationalize their own use of porn so that they don’t have to give it up and change themselves.

Try it out my friend or you’ll never know.

There is nothing sad about doing something that has literally and is still literally changing my life for the better.

To each his own I guess.

 

[MrJack]

That’s a misdirection, u r externalizing this issue and pointing the blame for erectile dysfunction at the common social whipping-post of porn by fanboys.

In young men or boys, the causes r typically from medications, anxiety, cigarettes, drugs, obesity and lack of sexual experience.

Why don't those fanboys attack those negative traits/habits vigorously?

Those certainly contribute to the problem sure. But so does porn. You are blaming only those things and saying porn has nothing to do with it at all it appears? (Justifying your own use)

You are simply wrong about that. Take it from someone who has researched for years and experienced periods of fapping WITH porn and periods of nofapping/no porn for months at a time over the years.

The correlation is there.

 

[Spaz]

Take it from someone who has researched for years and experienced periods of fapping WITH porn and nofapping/no porn for months at a time over the years.

The correlation is there.

U hv continually pleaded me 2 try nofap, even so far as asking me to test it for a month, I said nothing then.

Now u r trying a different angle 2 to plead me 2 take ur word base on ur experiences with nofap.

I will say something now so that u will understand. I will be blunt and 2 the point.

I am not a follower. Never been one. I will not say this a 2nd time; don't waste ur time.

U and the other nofap adherents here hv yet 2 give us any convincing counter argument to the points I've raised.

Despite years of ur research, every single pertinent point u hv raised, I hv countered with a respectable logical answer.

I'm not in the habit of repeating myself, as such i strongly suggest u reread my previous postings on this thread. It will cover and answer most of ur nofap theory.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

How do you figure that? Incels would disagree with that statement.

incels have opted out. They'd rather complain then do something about it.

Those certainly contribute to the problem sure. But so does porn. You are blaming only those things and saying porn has nothing to do with it at all it appears? (Justifying your own use)

You are simply wrong about that. Take it from someone who has researched for years and experienced periods of fapping WITH porn and periods of nofapping/no porn for months at a time over the years.

The correlation is there.

Fapping to porn is like picking up liquor Everytime you have sexual desire. A drink every so often is fine but if your drinking instead to taking care of the problem then your addicted. It's weakness.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

U hv continually pleaded me 2 try nofap, even so far as asking me to test it for a month, I said nothing then.

Now u r trying a different angle 2 to plead me 2 take ur word base on ur experiences with nofap.

I will say something now so that u will understand. I will be blunt and 2 the point.

I am not a follower. Never been one. I will not say this a 2nd time; don't waste ur time.

U and the other nofap adherents here hv yet 2 give us any convincing counter argument to the points I've raised.

Despite years of ur research, every single pertinent point u hv raised, I hv countered with a respectable logical answer.

I'm not in the habit of repeating myself, as such i strongly suggest u reread my previous postings on this thread. It will cover and answer most of ur nofap theory.

Hey spaz. If your having regular sex at will your fine!

One thing you may note, is if you remove fapping or looking at porn for at least 30 days your intensity of your real sex will be higher and the babes will turn you on more. I and others noticed that.

When my sex life hits on 8 cyllinders I have zero desire for porn. I'd only watch it with my lady if it make her try things.

The nofap was more aimed at men who used fapping in WEAKNESS as a replacement for a real sex life. Like the incels or the bigdave17 types that have impossible standards and rather jagging off instead of getting what pvzzy is available.

A person with a fapping problem is just like being a alcoholic. An incel feels the pressure of sex desire and the shame of no sex life and instead of taking action and doing what he need to correct it, he weakly and meekly drops trou at his computer and jags off to Porn... So weak!
Then goes complaining about women.

 

[MrJack]

U hv continually pleaded me 2 try nofap, even so far as asking me to test it for a month, I said nothing then.

Now u r trying a different angle 2 to plead me 2 take ur word base on ur experiences with nofap.

I will say something now so that u will understand. I will be blunt and 2 the point.

I am not a follower. Never been one. I will not say this a 2nd time; don't waste ur time.

U and the other nofap adherents here hv yet 2 give us any convincing counter argument to the points I've raised.

Despite years of ur research, every single pertinent point u hv raised, I hv countered with a respectable logical answer.

I'm not in the habit of repeating myself, as such i strongly suggest u reread my previous postings on this thread. It will cover and answer most of ur nofap theory.

Lol “pleaded” is a bit of an exaggeration buddy.

But every point I have raised you have not given a logical respectable answer. You just start talking about religion out of nowhere and your “counters” are what your brain comes up with to justify your use. You literally dont have any experience with nofap so how can you say with full confidence it doesn’t work? You can’t.

You simply have no idea and are spewing what you believe to be true based on what you THINK.

People with experience in the matter actually have the “authority” for lack of better term, to spread knowledge on the subject.

If you are happy with your life and don’t think you need any sort of improvement at all, great.

All I’m saying is, you can always improve yourself and this is one of the ways to do it.

If you want to remain the same, by all means keep at it. More women for the rest of us nofappers (;

 

[MrJack]

incels have opted out. They'd rather complain then do something about it.

Fapping to porn is like picking up liquor Everytime you have sexual desire. A drink every so often is fine but if your drinking instead to taking care of the problem then your addicted. It's weakness.

Absolutely. I think @Spaz just doesn’t get the fact that he’s been lied to his whole life and porn really is a drug that has consequences that are very hard to see until you truly realize it and see it firsthand.

It’s similar to bluepillers being smacked across the face with redpill knowledge. They are like shyt my entire reality was wrong.

I think Spaz is just in the anger phase because he wants to keep his porn habit

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Absolutely. I think @Spaz just doesn’t get the fact that he’s been lied to his whole life and porn really is a drug.

It’s similar to bluepillers being smacked across the face with redpill knowledge. They are like shyt my entire reality was wrong.

I think Spaz is just in the anger phase because he wants to keep his porn habit

I thought he was getting pvzzy though. I didn't know he was one of the virgin incels that Player Supreme used to clown here.

 

[corrector]

incels have opted out. They'd rather complain then do something about it.

No they have not. MTGOW-monk mode has. It's not an incel's fault that girls are going after Chads and ignoring them.

 

[corrector]

Lol “pleaded” is a bit of an exaggeration buddy.

But every point I have raised you have not given a logical respectable answer. You just start talking about religion out of nowhere and your “counters” are what your brain comes up with to justify your use. You literally dont have any experience with nofap so how can you say with full confidence it doesn’t work? You can’t.

But I can. I have gone on no-faps for quite a while. There are two categories of fapping, during the day and during the night. I award myself with fictional money if I do not fap during the night. Do you know what I was able to buy because of no-fap? I bought a sound-bar system with my fictional money. (i.e. I tie the ficitonal money to real money so when I spend real money then it's guilt-free if the money is spent for a selfish purpose, such as entertainment (i.e. a soundbar). Right now I have about over $ 200 of fictional money and that's based on reward money for not fapping during the night.

That's the only benefit of no-fap is more fictional money is printed. There is a standard $ 2.00 payment if no-fap during the night, and if there is a drive to fap and it's resisted, then bonus payments of $ 5.00 are made. So, trust me I have no-fap down to science and can say that I can see no real practical benefit other than having fictional money and you still need real money to back it up. There has been no day-time fapping since the end of May because I didn't like the sex-thought fantasy to which the fapping was based on and I banned it out since that time.

I can say that no-fap has not helped me attract or talk to any real women at any point. Just this fun type of money and knowing I can print out my own currency.

 

[MrJack]

But I can. I have gone on no-faps for quite a while. There are two categories of fapping, during the day and during the night. I award myself with fictional money if I do not fap during the night. Do you know what I was able to buy because of no-fap? I bought a sound-bar system with my fictional money. (i.e. I tie the ficitonal money to real money so when I spend real money then it's guilt-free if the money is spent for a selfish purpose, such as entertainment (i.e. a soundbar). Right now I have about over $ 200 of fictional money and that's based on reward money for not fapping during the night.

That's the only benefit of no-fap is more fictional money is printed. There is a standard $ 2.00 payment if no-fap during the night, and if there is a drive to fap and it's resisted, then bonus payments of $ 5.00 are made. So, trust me I have no-fap down to science and can say that I can see no real practical benefit other than having fictional money and you still need real money to back it up. There has been no day-time fapping since the end of May because I didn't like the sex-thought fantasy to which the fapping was based on and I banned it out since that time.

I can say that no-fap has not helped me attract or talk to any real women at any point. Just this fun type of money and knowing I can print out my own currency.

And that’s fine, at least you have real world experience with it. But couple questions:

Are you fapping while watching porn? That’s the real enemy here. Fapping without it in moderation will not hurt you.

Also if you fap with porn, how often would you say you do it within the last few years? Everyday? Once a week?

People who don’t have a problem/addiction to porn will not really experience any benefits from it, as I’ve stated in another post.

It’s really only the people that have that problem that start to see the “benefits”.

The funny thing is, those “benefits” are really just a part of them that has been suppressed due to them giving in to the addiction. If they never had a problem with it, they would not view them as benefits but rather just normal life and their default state.

Not everyone experiences the same shyt and I’m not trying to put everyone in the same category. Just people with addictions to it.

 

[MrJack]

I thought he was getting pvzzy though. I didn't know he was one of the virgin incels that Player Supreme used to clown here.

Life is full of twists my friend.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

1st there's the whole Mr. BPD threads, then the Mr. Cratered SMV threads, then the Mr. Hypergamy threads and now we hv the Mr. Nofap fanboys threads. It all points 2 not taking responsibility on their own shortcomings and worst they blame it on something other then themselves. Pure cowardice. Where's the Mr. Take Responsibility threads or Mr. Self improvement threads?

Getting compulsive masturbation under control is all about self-improvement. Let's face it, playing with your own willy is pretty pathetic behavior for a DJ to indulge in.

Think of a man you admire. Can you also picture him as a wanker?

Now if you keep coming back to science ad nauseam, then you simply have no inner ethical life going for you... that part which is always looking for self-improvement, freedom, and self-determination. It will be hollowed out and bankrupt... and will no doubt want to escape the consciousness of its own misery by annihilating itself with porn. Porn is consumption and nihilism... it consumes the self.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Getting compulsive masturbation under control is all about self-improvement. Let's face it, playing with your own willy is pretty pathetic behavior for a DJ to indulge in.

Think of a man you admire. Can you also picture him as a wanker?

Compulsive anything is weak unless you have a compulsive behavior of betterment of yourself and success.

 

[corrector]

And that’s fine, at least you have real world experience with it. But couple questions:

Are you fapping while watching porn? That’s the real enemy here. Fapping without it in moderation will not hurt you.

That last day-fap in May was not porn but a mental fantasy about seeing an escort just before waking up. I don't watch porn to fap, but I might look at escort pics on an adult classified.

Also if you fap with porn, how often would you say you do it within the last few years? Everyday? Once a week?

Again, I don't really look at porn that much to fap directly. If I look at porn then I'd jump to an escort site and finish with an escort ad posted on the site. With an escort site, the tangibility of potentially calling up an escort and booking an appointment creates a short-circuit arousal in itself to start fapping.

In worst case, I'll go on an escort page every day and jack off to a different escort each time. So like once a day visit an escort thing. Now I've abstained away from all that. But I'm not seeing any particular practical benefits from abstaining from fapping at escort pics/ads, apart from doing the right thing morally.