Field report - not good

[sazc]

The purpose for the 20 questions, interview style is the hope that you will actually hit on a topic that you both share and can converse about. To hopefully find commonalities and shared interests.

Just don't over do it. You don't want it to feel like a machine gun shooting questions at her.

I'm sure you know when to stop of you have found something you can talk about.

Trust me, it's better to ask questions than sit there in awkward silence.

Otherwise, WELCOME TO OLD! an interesting mix of introverts trying to force themselves into an extrovert personna. The most important thing is you tried.

Next time just do coffee/cheap

 

[flowtheory]

The purpose for the 20 questions, interview style is the hope that you will actually hit on a topic that you both share and can converse about. To hopefully find commonalities and shared interests.

Just don't over do it. You don't want it to feel like a machine gun shooting questions at her.

I'm sure you know when to stop of you have found something you can talk about.

Trust me, it's better to ask questions than sit there in awkward silence.

Otherwise, WELCOME TO OLD! an interesting mix of introverts trying to force themselves into an extrovert personna. The most important thing is you tried.

Next time just do coffee/cheap

Ive never thought of OLD that way.. it’s for introverts. Hm

 

[sazc]

Ive never thought of OLD that way.. it’s for introverts. Hm

OMG yes! That's probably why half of your interactions die off after exchanging a handful of messages, because these introverts realize they are crossing into that area where it will be suggested that you meet, so they ghost to avoid an uncomfortable question.

They start out with good intentions, but the anxiety of trying on the extrovert suit overwhelms them.

 

[flowtheory]

OMG yes! That's probably why half of your interactions die off after exchanging a handful of messages, because these introverts realize they are crossing into that area where it will be suggested that you meet, so they ghost to avoid an uncomfortable question.

They start out with good intentions, but the anxiety of trying on the extrovert suit overwhelms them.

iiiiintrrresting.

 

[sazc]

iiiiintrrresting.

That's not a "catch all" reason but, when things seem to be rolling decently, and the other party ghosts, there's a decent change that social anxiety is the reason.

 

[RickTheToad]

The purpose for the 20 questions, interview style is the hope that you will actually hit on a topic that you both share and can converse about. To hopefully find commonalities and shared interests.

Just don't over do it. You don't want it to feel like a machine gun shooting questions at her.

I'm sure you know when to stop of you have found something you can talk about.

Trust me, it's better to ask questions than sit there in awkward silence.

Otherwise, WELCOME TO OLD! an interesting mix of introverts trying to force themselves into an extrovert personna. The most important thing is you tried.

Next time just do coffee/cheap

Was trying. I felt like Eddie Murphy in Coming to America and the lady barks and acts like a dog. When he asked her, what do you like to do? Her response, whatever you like to do. Again, she seemed nice, but there was no spark and there seemed to be nothing to latch on too. No hobbies aside from movies and reading, and it was hard for her to expand on that aside for her love of Titanic and Leonardo Di Caprio.

 

[RickTheToad]

Maybe if you're shopping for a wife, then her employment and education status might matter, but other than that I see it as totally irrelevant. I don't have a career or good job myself, and I found that had nothing to do with getting laid at OLD. In fact, I probably got laid more because of it, since I was not putting on the Mr Provider act.

All of the reasons you stated for her not being suitable for you, I see as traits that make her lonely and therefore easy. Both women and life in general are what you make of them.

Not shopping for a wife. However, finding out what they do for a living and their activities that they enjoy are some key questions. I cannot take advantage like that with a weakish woman like this. Plus, I had zero attraction. My member doesn't work when I am not attracted to the lady.

 

[dustmuffin]

Not really sure what I was supposed to talk about. She has no job. She doesn't enjoy doing anything. She lives with her parents. Has no goals in her life. I w

Maybe if you're shopping for a wife, then her employment and education status might matter, but other than that I see it as totally irrelevant. I don't have a career or good job myself, and I found that had nothing to do with getting laid at OLD. In fact, I probably got laid more because of it, since I was not putting on the Mr Provider act.

All of the reasons you stated for her not being suitable for you, I see as traits that make her lonely and therefore easy. Both women and life in general are what you make of them.

as running out of things to ask? I was expanding as much as possible, but getting very little back aside from, what about you? I would then answer briefly and focus back on her.

I asked what's the craziest or most exciting thing she's done in recently. Nothing really. What do you like to do on your off time? I read, watch movies. What's your favorite book? Just one? There's so many. What about a book you read this year? Blank...

I loved The Matrix. Did you know they're rebooting it? Oh, never seen it. What types of movies do you like? I loved Titanic and Leonardo Di Caprio. He's amazing. I remember him since.

Go on any exiting trips or hikes recently? I'm really an intovert. I cannot go out as I burn easily in the sun. Grasping at straws here. Then I asked for the check, and I left. It just didn't feel right. Many of my others, even if I wasn't attracted to them flowed much easier than this. I tried my best to latch on to something. But all she does is hang out with her parents and hope to get a teaching job one day. How am I supposed to turn that around into something productive?

Open to ideas. I need something to go on.

. Just escalate And hit it.

 

[RickTheToad]

Had zero attraction. I cannot just make a move when I have no attraction. Plus, a lady going no where in life, not my cup of tea. Makes me think she just gave up on life and has nothing to strive for.

 

[marmel75]

Not shopping for a wife. However, finding out what they do for a living and their activities that they enjoy are some key questions. I cannot take advantage like that with a weakish woman like this. Plus, I had zero attraction. My member doesn't work when I am not attracted to the lady.

These are not key questions. Boring a woman to death does not make her wet.

What are you doing in date to sexually excite a woman? If the answer is nothing then that is where you need to start. Either via Kino, things that can be misinterpreted as sexual in nature that woman literally take and run with, topics of conversation, etc...

Talking about her interests and her job and the weather and all the boring things that 90% of other guys talk about does nothing to excite her and make her want to fvck you.

Your goal is to excite her to the point she wants to fvck you. Its not happening with these type of conversations.

 

[marmel75]

The purpose for the 20 questions, interview style is the hope that you will actually hit on a topic that you both share and can converse about. To hopefully find commonalities and shared interests.

Just don't over do it. You don't want it to feel like a machine gun shooting questions at her.

I'm sure you know when to stop of you have found something you can talk about.

Trust me, it's better to ask questions than sit there in awkward silence.

Otherwise, WELCOME TO OLD! an interesting mix of introverts trying to force themselves into an extrovert personna. The most important thing is you tried.

Next time just do coffee/cheap

20 questions interviews are done by guys who lack game and think they can talk their way into a woman's panties by boring them to death and being safe. Safe conversations...safe topics...safe environment...safe behavior...

Safe isn't playing to win. Safe is playing not to lose. And just like in football what happens when you play not to lose? You usually lose.

Safe doesn't cut it unless you are a super hot guy where you could read from the dictionary and she would be wet.

 

[RickTheToad]

These are not key questions. Boring a woman to death does not make her wet.

What are you doing in date to sexually excite a woman? If the answer is nothing then that is where you need to start. Either via Kino, things that can be misinterpreted as sexual in nature that woman literally take and run with, topics of conversation, etc...

Talking about her interests and her job and the weather and all the boring things that 90% of other guys talk about does nothing to excite her and make her want to fvck you.

Your goal is to excite her to the point she wants to fvck you. Its not happening with these type of conversations.

Okay kemosabe. Apparently, I have a lot to learn. Please, explain it to me like I am a 2 year old. What are things that peak her sexual interest? I cannot go to a lady after talking to her for five minutes and say, hey, you have some sweet looking juggs. How often do you get motorboated? Or, wow, your butt us huge. I think my c0ck will just get lost in that glorious hole of yours. How about... Are you shaven down there?? Can't stand a hair cvnt.

I mean, come on dude. Be real here. Any of those things above will get you punched, drink thrown at your or even shot. This is the East End of Bridgeport, CT. This isn't Menlo Park, CA.

 

[marmel75]

Okay kemosabe. Apparently, I have a lot to learn. Please, explain it to me like I am a 2 year old. What are things that peak her sexual interest? I cannot go to a lady after talking to her for five minutes and say, hey, you have some sweet looking juggs. How often do you get motorboated? Or, wow, your butt us huge. I think my c0ck will just get lost in that glorious hole of yours. How about... Are you shaven down there?? Can't stand a hair cvnt.

I mean, come on dude. Be real here. Any of those things above will get you punched, drink thrown at your or even shot. This is the East End of Bridgeport, CT. This isn't Menlo Park, CA.

This is the problem. You think you have to overtly say something that is obviously sexual in nature. No, you do things that are covert.

She has a bracelet or watch or earrings or a necklace...grab it in the middle of talking to her and be like "Oh wow, I really like that bracelet/necklace/watch...whats the story behind that?" And KEEP holding it while she talks to you. This should happen within 5 minutes of the date starting. It gets her used to your touch and then you segway into other things.

You need to unserstand finesse. Tact. Covert skills that end up building up tension/excitement you use to your advantage. Pretend the woman is a volume dial that starts on silent when you meet. You should immediately and slowly begin turning her volume up consistently throughout the date until its on max by the end.

Yes there are times for saying something overtly sexual. There are times for doing something overtly sexual. Do you know how many times in the middle of a conversation after 30-40 minutes after I been using kino and kissed her IN DATE that I have grabbed her hand and put it directly on my c0ck? Many times. At least 20 different times. In the middle of a crowded bar. You take them to the most secluded part of the room you can find and then you go to work. Know how many times I got punched in the face or had a drink thrown on me? Never. Know how many times I got her breathing heavy and obviously sexually excited and wet which led to us fvcking that night? Many times.

Trust me once you have a woman turned on enough the fact she is in a public place with other people is NO DETERRENT for her doing sexual things.

This is what the guys who won't do anything even semi-bold dont understand...women WANT guys to be sexual with them as long as they KNOW HOW to do it. If you do it properly they love it...if you don't then you come off as a weirdo.

However if you want to learn how to do it properly you are going to have to risk coming off as a weirdo until you figure out how to do it smoothly. No other way. You WILL fail at times. But playing safe is pretty much an automatic fail. Eventually you will get sick and tired of playing safe and having dates end the same way. With nothing happening just like I did.

I can speak about this because I did the same things you are doing now that didn't work. They still won't work. Sure they might work to a small degree but overall? You are going to miss out on a lot of lays you could have gotten just like I did.

I am not telling you anything any other guy who is successful in date wont tell you. Boldness always trumps safeness as long as you do it properly.

You want real? Thats real. Women will stroke you off in the middle of a bar in public with people watching if you get them horny enough. 100% truth.

 

[RickTheToad]

This is the problem. You think you have to overtly say something that is obviously sexual in nature. No, you do things that are covert.

She has a bracelet or watch or earrings or a necklace...grab it in the middle of talking to her and be like "Oh wow, I really like that bracelet/necklace/watch...whats the story behind that?" And KEEP holding it while she talks to you. This should happen within 5 minutes of the date starting. It gets her used to your touch and then you segway into other things.

You need to unserstand finesse. Tact. Covert skills that end up building up tension/excitement you use to your advantage. Pretend the woman is a volume dial that starts on silent when you meet. You should immediately and slowly begin turning her volume up consistently throughout the date until its on max by the end.

Yes there are times for saying something overtly sexual. There are times for doing something overtly sexual. Do you know how many times in the middle of a conversation after 30-40 minutes after I been using kino and kissed her IN DATE that I have grabbed her hand and put it directly on my c0ck? Many times. At least 20 different times. In the middle of a crowded bar. You take them to the most secluded part of the room you can find and then you go to work. Know how many times I got punched in the face or had a drink thrown on me? Never. Know how many times I got her breathing heavy and obviously sexually excited and wet which led to us fvcking that night? Many times.

Trust me once you have a woman turned on enough the fact she is in a public place with other people is NO DETERRENT for her doing sexual things.

This is what the guys who won't do anything even semi-bold dont understand...women WANT guys to be sexual with them as long as they KNOW HOW to do it. If you do it properly they love it...if you don't then you come off as a weirdo.

However if you want to learn how to do it properly you are going to have to risk coming off as a weirdo until you figure out how to do it smoothly. No other way. You WILL fail at times. But playing safe is pretty much an automatic fail. Eventually you will get sick and tired of playing safe and having dates end the same way. With nothing happening just like I did.

I can speak about this because I did the same things you are doing now that didn't work. They still won't work. Sure they might work to a small degree but overall? You are going to miss out on a lot of lays you could have gotten just like I did.

I am not telling you anything any other guy who is successful in date wont tell you. Boldness always trumps safeness as long as you do it properly.

You want real? Thats real. Women will stroke you off in the middle of a bar in public with people watching if you get them horny enough. 100% truth.

Yea, I get that. However, I will give you two examples where I was bold on one, not on the other. The funny thing on the first one, I knew it was my in, but I second guessed myself and pulled back. Not because I was scared, but I just had sex with another lady I was seeing, so felt guilty by going after this one. Thus, I lost her. Here's the setup. We were at a local bar, we were talking and a famous singer came up and we were debating about the words on the song. She took out her phone and moved her chair right next to mine and got closer and closer. She shared her phone with me and our lips were maybe 2 inches away from each other and we paused just staring at me. I didn't make the move as as weird as it sounds, that girl texted me because it was her birthday and she said thinking about you. Since I saw that text on my watch, I felt bad and like I was cheating on her, so I backed off. As bad as that was, we had a fight on something stupid, and we parted ways 3 weeks later. Thus, I lost both. Still pissed at that.
Another time some white knights thought I was too aggressive and tried to start a fight with me. The barkeep got rid of them before anything happened. So, I am a bit hesitant to do anything these days. Seems like I am in the position of neutral. The lady who I was seeing at the same time as the one above jumped my bones on the first date, and was chasing me for days after. I was trying to get more plates, so I was dating other women. The second one was younger and better looking, kinda like a body of Kim K., but I fvcked it up; and I am still pissed about it. She even looked at me like I missed my opportunity. I had another one, but skipped it too. I've learned from that mistake. Half PR / IT. Jesus Christ.

I have seem to have 2 or 3 other dates this week. The seating situation is always an issue. Nearly every pub around here has square tables. I do not like sitting at the bar as everyone is starring. If we get a table, should I sit on the same side, square table, two seats on both sides. Normally, I sit across, but it's hard to do any kino during the date. I do before and after, but it's hit or miss. The one above was a circular table, and she moved over to show me something at her own desire. That is very rare. Plus, that was in West Hartford, where I used to live. Booths are better, but everything in Bridgeport seems to be square tables. If I am close to the lady, and attracted to her, I can do the kino pretty well. I just feel weird if I sit on the same side on the table. What's the best way to handle the seating situation? Should I sit on the same side so we're close? What's my reasoning if the waiter or the date says something?

I know I still have a lot to do with my work with the ladies. It's just very hard to start from the bottom. I know what I need to do, it's just I second guess myself as being too aggressive.

 

[devilkingx2]

Not really sure what I was supposed to talk about. She has no job. She doesn't enjoy doing anything. She lives with her parents. Has no goals in her life. I was running out of things to ask? I was expanding as much as possible, but getting very little back aside from, what about you? I would then answer briefly and focus back on her.

Ask her how long she'd survive marooned on a resource abundant deserted island, castaway style. Also ask her what she thinks would finally kill her or if she thinks she'd escape/get rescued

Ask her if she'd rather wear a mini skirt on a windy day or daisy dukes and a thin white crop top to a waterpark

Ask her if she'd rather run a pyramid scheme or rob a bank if she needed to get rich quick

Etc. Be creative and ask an unusual uncommon interesting question that forces her to think and engage in a worthwhile discussion while also getting you information you'd want to know, if she STILL can't say anything interesting or can't be bothered to think about an answer then ask for the check and walk out on her, nothing you can do if she's boring

I asked what's the craziest or most exciting thing she's done in recently. Nothing really. What do you like to do on your off time? I read, watch movies. What's your favorite book? Just one? There's so many. What about a book you read this year? Blank...

I loved The Matrix. Did you know they're rebooting it? Oh, never seen it. What types of movies do you like? I loved Titanic and Leonardo Di Caprio. He's amazing. I remember him since.

Go on any exiting trips or hikes recently? I'm really an intovert. I cannot go out as I burn easily in the sun. Grasping at straws here. Then I asked for the check, and I left. It just didn't feel right. Many of my others, even if I wasn't attracted to them flowed much easier than this. I tried my best to latch on to something. But all she does is hang out with her parents and hope to get a teaching job one day. How am I supposed to turn that around into something productive?

God damn she sounds like the most boring person on the earth, I'd probably get frustrated and ask her if she has ever left her house before tbh. You should've froze her out and hit on the waitress or something

 

[devilkingx2]

Ive never thought of OLD that way.. it’s for introverts. Hm

When she says introverts she means losers, there's a lot of losers on the internet.

Being introverted doesn't make you a loser, it's okay if you don't go rock climbing or hiking or clubbing 6 days a week, but if you don't have a social life or anything to talk about because you never do anything, can't interact with people, and are scared of going outside... Then OLD is for you! Lol.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

iiiiintrrresting.

Yeah, most of these people online are living in a fantasy world. It's all a bit sad really, which is why you want to meet people in real life.... while you can before the social engineers screw it all up.

 

[marmel75]

Yea, I get that. However, I will give you two examples where I was bold on one, not on the other. The funny thing on the first one, I knew it was my in, but I second guessed myself and pulled back. Not because I was scared, but I just had sex with another lady I was seeing, so felt guilty by going after this one. Thus, I lost her. Here's the setup. We were at a local bar, we were talking and a famous singer came up and we were debating about the words on the song. She took out her phone and moved her chair right next to mine and got closer and closer. She shared her phone with me and our lips were maybe 2 inches away from each other and we paused just staring at me. I didn't make the move as as weird as it sounds, that girl texted me because it was her birthday and she said thinking about you. Since I saw that text on my watch, I felt bad and like I was cheating on her, so I backed off. As bad as that was, we had a fight on something stupid, and we parted ways 3 weeks later. Thus, I lost both. Still pissed at that.
Another time some white knights thought I was too aggressive and tried to start a fight with me. The barkeep got rid of them before anything happened. So, I am a bit hesitant to do anything these days. Seems like I am in the position of neutral. The lady who I was seeing at the same time as the one above jumped my bones on the first date, and was chasing me for days after. I was trying to get more plates, so I was dating other women. The second one was younger and better looking, kinda like a body of Kim K., but I fvcked it up; and I am still pissed about it. She even looked at me like I missed my opportunity. I had another one, but skipped it too. I've learned from that mistake. Half PR / IT. Jesus Christ.

I have seem to have 2 or 3 other dates this week. The seating situation is always an issue. Nearly every pub around here has square tables. I do not like sitting at the bar as everyone is starring. If we get a table, should I sit on the same side, square table, two seats on both sides. Normally, I sit across, but it's hard to do any kino during the date. I do before and after, but it's hit or miss. The one above was a circular table, and she moved over to show me something at her own desire. That is very rare. Plus, that was in West Hartford, where I used to live. Booths are better, but everything in Bridgeport seems to be square tables. If I am close to the lady, and attracted to her, I can do the kino pretty well. I just feel weird if I sit on the same side on the table. What's the best way to handle the seating situation? Should I sit on the same side so we're close? What's my reasoning if the waiter or the date says something?

I know I still have a lot to do with my work with the ladies. It's just very hard to start from the bottom. I know what I need to do, it's just I second guess myself as being too aggressive.

Start scouting places for semi-circular booths. Do you have a Bar Louie in your area? That's my go to place.

If you are at a square table, just pull you chair so you are sitting at the end of the table so you are sort of at a 90 degree angle from her. As you are talking pretend you are having trouble hearing her and just grab her chair and pull her closer. That's a strong masculine move and women love it. Now you are right next to each other. Game on.

 

[devilkingx2]

Okay kemosabe. Apparently, I have a lot to learn. Please, explain it to me like I am a 2 year old. What are things that peak her sexual interest? I cannot go to a lady after talking to her for five minutes and say, hey, you have some sweet looking juggs. How often do you get motorboated? Or, wow, your butt us huge. I think my c0ck will just get lost in that glorious hole of yours. How about... Are you shaven down there?? Can't stand a hair cvnt.

I mean, come on dude. Be real here. Any of those things above will get you punched, drink thrown at your or even shot. This is the East End of Bridgeport, CT. This isn't Menlo Park, CA.

You think you can't compliment her breasts and use innuendo?

Women who want to fvck you are not innocent, delicate, easily offended creatures, especially not women you meet in places known for hookups (bars, clubs, parties, OLD, tinder & bumble, etc.)

 

[logicallefty]

Sounds like a cloud of BS just like this new emoji . Reminds me of a POF date I had last winter. Chick was 33yo and bragging about how independent she is. Then tells me she lives with mommy. If you can go on a date with a woman like this and make sure the entire date costs you less than a ticket to your local comedy club, you have came out ahead. More to laugh at for less cost.