soulforge

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Look at her attention whoring behaviour!

Sound like Wifey material to you Bruv?

Quit wasting time.. The key word here is ESCALATE!!

Aim to SMASH at the first opportunity.. If she doesn't let you access her Vagina, then you simply pull up your big boy socks and move the fuk on to bigger & better things!

However If she shows interest then smash her VAG and keep her around as a Fuk buddy!

Don't even consider this one for relationship material.
 

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They'll THROW AWAY some chump they toy with to get an ego boost out of IN A HEART BEAT for a MAN who makes her feel passion,desirable,and wanted....who makes her light up like a Christmas tree on the inside.
Yeah, but who's to say I haven't ignited that? I didn't just do some random connection building talk. Attraction was supposed to be embedded in it too.

So how can I tell whether I've successfully sparked attraction or not?

she mentions how hurt or confused she is by some guy SHE JUST RECENTLY started seeing.
The only diff between me and such guys that may work in their favor, is that they are loud, abnoxious and obviously have higher social status (as per their talk and people who know them).

until you work up the courage to make a move,
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What is "a move" exactly?

Getting physical? Fondling? Kissing? or should also include penetration? As it seems to each their own definition.

ASK HER OUT. NOTHING YOU SAID HERE MEANS ANYTHING.....unless you ASK HER OUT.
Already did. Even before posting here.

She indirectly acted (on both occassions) as if the time conflicted with either her work (I know.. I've set it up intentionally that way but left around 10 mins she could've used to skip to meet)..
or.. second date excuse:
that she didn't know the name I have used for the second location's meeting (set via messaging).

I just wanted to see if she'd exert any effort to make it work and she didn't. Didn't even bother informing me about it until both meetings/dates flew by.

I don't give other chances. But also didn't act faded by it or mad or anything.

HOWEVER, later during the day she bought me stuff that I like (food, drinks, etc. Nothing expensive) .. and for no reasons.

Later I discovered it may be her way to say sorry when she 'thinks' I'm mad.. or to bribe me...etc.

As it had repeated again anytime she spends more time interracting with a coworker or guest.

WTF?!

This is the same girl who'd isolate me before I get the time to isolate her the same day.

She craved us going physical since the first time I became sexual and physical with her out of the blue, during night at work place...

(did everything except for sex itself and penetration).
 
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Yeah, but who's to say I haven't ignited that? I didn't just do some random connection building talk. Attraction was supposed to be embedded in it too.

So how can I tell whether I've successfully sparked attraction or not?



The only diff between me and such guys that may work in their favor, is that they are loud, abnoxious and obviously have higher social status (as per their talk and people who know them).

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What is "a move" exactly?

Getting physical? Fondling? Kissing? or should also include penetration? As it seems to each their own definition.



Already did. Even before posting here.

She indirectly acted (on both occassions) as if the time conflicted with either her work (I know.. I've set it up intentionally that way but left around 10 mins she could've used to skip to meet)..
or.. second date excuse:
that she didn't know the name I have used for the second location's meeting (set via messaging).

I just wanted to see if she'd exert any effort to make it work and she didn't. Didn't even bother informing me about it until both meetings/dates flew by.

I don't give other chances. But also didn't act faded by it or mad or anything.

HOWEVER, later during the day she bought me stuff that I like (food, drinks, etc. Nothing expensive) .. and for no reasons.

Later I discovered it may be her way to say sorry when she 'thinks' I'm mad.. or to bribe me...etc.

As it had repeated again anytime she spends more time interracting with a coworker or guest.

WTF?!

This is the same girl who'd isolate me before I get the time to isolate her the same day.

She craved us going physical since the first time I became sexual and physical with her out of the blue, during night at work place...

(did everything except for sex itself and penetration).
Penetration is very crucial.
 

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Even when coming from a slightly diff culture (than north American and European), where sex on first date is looked down upon and isn't within the norms?

On 2nd and 3rd dates it is ok though.
I was saying don't let them string you along without sex. But 1,2 or 3 dates is early. But I agree with the 3 date rule because it shows she at least values you sexually.

Nothing worse than being strung along for dates for someone who just wanted free meals .
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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This sounds to me like the type of girl where the man who wins her ends up being the biggest loser in the end. Women who entertain these types of jealousy plots do not do this just with This is the type of girl you sleep with a few times maybe, tell her you're not feeling a connection and move on. But considering you work with this woman, I wouldn't even do that.
Interesting theory. Yet, a scary one. Very possible. Sure wouldn't want that to be the case.

Due to our work nature/environment, we sleep over there at work place.

Just a coupla days ago, she bought me a bunch of my fav foods and drinks late at night. And made sure that I knew she bought them for me out of her own money.

And (through action alone) that she supposedly cares that I'm not sad or angry for whatever reason and that I stay happy.

(Note: I think she thought I was angry with her for giving another new coworker extra time, which wasn't true.. I'm not that easily triggered... It angers me that she thinks I am)... so I guess she was trying to compensate even harder.

What bothers me is that she cut back on seeing me or talking with each other. Which I took as a red flag.

She is still drastically cutting back and doesn't meet or talk unless it is work related and for a very short period of time. Thinking she's lost interest.

Though I do remember she did the "avoid/no contact" game long ago and when she lost, she came back crawling for my attention again...

... Even craved fondling and physical contact for a number of days. Starting on day 1 when she ended the stupid game.

So I really don't know what is going on inside her crazy head.

Is it another game? Is she not in her best looks/makeup and doesn't want me to notice that? Or has she lost interest for good this time?

Oh well. B*tches be crazy!
 

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I'm sure she does. But do you know what women like MORE THAN attention?.....

CHEMISTRY. PASSION. ELECTRICITY. A "SPARK".

They'll THROW AWAY some chump they toy with to get an ego boost out of IN A HEART BEAT for a MAN who makes her feel passion,desirable,and wanted....who makes her light up like a Christmas tree on the inside.

You try to "spark" any attraction in her whenever she comes around,or do you stand in line with all the other guys,waiting for your turn to boost her ego?



Nope.....not a damn thing. You being able to get her to open MEANS NOTHING. In fact,it may work against you. Look....

She wants A MAN.....NOT a therapist. You trying to have "deep" conversations with her will likely get you friendzoned. You know those "alphas" you said you were worried who might steal her? Well don't be surprised if during one of your "deep" talks with her,she mentions how hurt or confused she is by some guy SHE JUST RECENTLY started seeing.

Cause if you think she's just gonna be celibate and be alone until you work up the courage to make a move,you're gonna be in for one heck of a shock.



You say that like it's a GOOD thing. Was she on a couch,laying down on her back,looking up at the ceiling as she recited her life story to you,as you sat in a chair next to her,legs crossed,with a pen and clipboard in hand asking her questions? Cause that's how it's coming off. Dude listen......Dustmuffin was 100% RIGHT.....

ASK HER OUT. NOTHING YOU SAID HERE MEANS ANYTHING.....unless you ASK HER OUT.

I don't care how much she "opens up" to you...
how much you two talk
how much of her life story she shares
how much she seeks you out
how she touches you
or how many deep connections you two have........

NONE OF THAT MEANS SH1T.....................until you ASK HER OUT.


Unless and until that happens,you are 100% GUARANTEED to be friendzoned. There's no other option but that.




Well? What is she supposed to do.....sit around and wait for you to make a move?

It's not her problem if you won't MAN UP and go for what you want.
Let me see if I got this right...

He’s going wrong by not being sexual with her but engaging in deep conversations.

What he should be doing Is escalating and being sexual while being deep and having those conversations.
And not chasing her for attention like all the other guys, but by doing his thing and still putting in effort to take her out.

Yes?
 

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Let me see if I got this right...

He’s going wrong by not being sexual with her but engaging in deep conversations.

What he should be doing Is escalating and being sexual while being deep and having those conversations.
And not chasing her for attention like all the other guys, but by doing his thing and still putting in effort to take her out.

Yes?
Yes
 
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