You guys realize that getting women as a man is the absolute hardest aspect of social interaction??

[mrgoodstuff]

I was seeing a legit 8.5/10 mid 30s woman last year. She was absolutely gorgeous (dark black hair with bright blue eyes), masters degree in political science, super super sweet. The second I started talking to her, she was all over me. I was seeing her for a month but I cut it off because I knew I would never date her. I especially don't want to date a single mom. I felt guilty afterwards...she really wants a serious relationship and someone who will be there for her. I only went out with her to boost my ego. I vowed not to do that again. I care a lot about not misleading women or using them. To me, going out with somebody for "practice" is just using them. It's morally fukking wrong. That's a real human being, not a practice dummy. I would hate it if some woman used me as a practice until she could date a white chad. Treat people the way you want to be treated - I'm a huge believer in that.

if I approached the mid 20s version of that, she would have likely blown me off instantly

Don't worry about that . You don't have to marry everyone you get with. Just be honest that your not looking for a relationship. These are probably some great people once you look past superficial qualities.

. You can share some good feelings everyone wins

 

[bigdave17]

Don't worry about that

I do worry about that. Women can't handle casual sex. She wanted to date me very badly

 

[bigdave17]

You aren't red pill at all.

I dunno wtf that red pill nonsense means

I just try to be a decent person and treat people the way I want to be treated at all times and in all circumstances

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I dunno wtf that red pill nonsense means

I just try to be a decent person and treat people the way I want to be treated at all times and in all circumstances

What might be descent is sharing kindness with one of the ladies outside of you target . Having sex is not e

It means understanding how women as actually are. Hint: they're not like men.

So it means if the herd needs to know your fvcking someone before the others will choose you, you'll do the needful .

In bigdave17 circles they all know he's not getting none. Because none of them are giving it, they talk like a flock of birds!

 

[bigdave17]

It means understanding how women as actually are. Hint: they're not like men.

I understand they're not like men

if they were like men, I would have no problem having sex with the 34 year olds who approach me because they would be cool with no strings attached fun/sex also.

in reality, every woman I've ever had sex with wanted to date me long term

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Are you doing the same word salad BS and ignoring what I'm telling you again? You aren't too bright are you.

He's hyper focused on his viewpoint . A viewpoint which is not successful in this particular endeavor.

 

[bigdave17]

Are you doing the same word salad BS and ignoring what I'm telling you again? Everything you just said is completely wrong. Women date and dating means casual sex until you've been together for three to six months. Take the red pill and listen to man who know what they're talking about, that's why you're here isn't it?

You aren't too bright are you.

you're not understanding my point

seeing someone to improve your game and get practice to prepare for the person you actually want to be with is morally wrong. You are using them. I don't care what horsesh*t rationale you use, its still wrong.

imagine a girl seeing you for 2 months to improve her game to hopefully meet the 6'3 chad she wants to be with long term. How frustrating and awful would that be?

And yes i know women do that bull****, but just because someone else wants to be an a**hole doesn't give me the moral justification to behave the same way.

 

[bigdave17]

Dating isn't using, this is what you don't understand because you are a beta white knight. Dating is completely commitment free.

You are lost and came to the wrong website. I found a good website for you and your misbegotten fake morals though, youll feel right at home, far away from us mean red pill types: http://incels.me

I have more women who approach me than almost anybody i know, lol

incels would murder a kitten to get as much female attention as I get, even if none of them fit what I want.

 

[bigdave17]

Great first step Dave!

narcissistic personality disorder

• Takes advantage of others to reach his or her own goals
  
  
• Disregards the feelings of others, lacks empathy
  

....so the complete polar opposite of me

got it

 

[bigdave17]

don't need to meet all the criteria

thats probably the 2 biggest components of it you numbskull

the rest of it is nonsense too. I'm not arrogant and I don't think i deserve any special treatment. If i had a quality GF, I wouldn't even be posting on this forum

 

[Von]

OP story and alter ego is cristiano ronaldo (the Portuguese soccer/ European football player)

A closet homosexual who seek a wife to be a "trophy" and allow him to avoid discution on his sexuality.

The wife in returns get "exposure and fame with money compensation", there is also possibility of a child for her and " freedom of lifestyle"

All the "male/husband" ask for his: her public image and his private life.

Who is Cristiano Ronaldo? A 33 years old, record breaker and ultra focused/hardcore discipline player. He's also considered a Diva (love to show his body, likes to create drama and attention on his material gains), he's also quite "confident or arrogant" (I am the best, I deserve the best, I work the hardest). Cristiano Ronaldo comes from a remote island village of Portugal.. Portugal is highly conservative, macho, Christian society (homosexuality is almost illegal) in terms of "male-female dynamic" . His private life: he "dated" all kind of hottest women and stars... he wants 7 kids... currently has 3 by surrogate mother (artificially made pregnant in exchange of cash) and he currently has a Spanish girlfriend (who is biological mother of 1 kid) for the past 1 year.

Anyway, I wanted to share my discovery here.

You know OP, if you ask a girl to do a "living arrangement" with you (you provide, she plays her model/wife part)... you'll likely will have more success and acceptance. It's easy to find Models who will play the role (think prince Harry wife who became a royal actress and all other "stars" who have wife but don't live with them, or corporate leaders).

Here's my 2cent. Ignore button on

 

[The Duke]

Dave-

You only want to hear yourself talk. You aren't here to improve. Any time someone gives you advice you find 100 reasons why you shouldn't put it into practice then you start another thread pretending to seek advice but its really to put yourself front and center to feed your need for attention. You live in constant fear and denial. You hide from that by telling yourself how great you are. Yet you have little experience with women. You remind me of an Instagram attention wh0re with daddy issues.

You offer nothing to this forum, I urge you to find somewhere else. Maybe loveshack is more your speed.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I think Dave has an obvious issue, but he is terrified to admit it. That's why he keep swirling so much delusion around.

To wit:

He gets approached by more women than anybody he knows.

The only women that don't approach him JUST HAPPEN to be the women he "wants."

He keeps referring to how much action he WOULD get if he WAS gay.

He says it's "morally wrong" to date girls that he hasn't decided to MARRY before the first date.

He doesn't even like to hang out with girls if they AREN'T HIS TYPE.

He's never had a relationship with a woman.

He is always commenting how ATTRACTIVE he is.

He talks about how much money he makes but he NEVER uses prostitutes.

All of these point in one direction.

Dave is gay, but he is TERRIFIED to admit it.

Dave, either consider that you are gay, OR consider banging some of these girls just for the experience. Many of them would bang you just for the experience. Get drunk, turn out the lights, and have fun.

OR, go gay. Accept it. Nothing wrong with being gay. NOTHING.

 

[AJ84]

I do worry about that. Women can't handle casual sex. She wanted to date me very badly

Some women can handle causal sex. Like mrgoodstuff said just be upfront. Some women who have a lot of other things going on with kids work etc just want that itch scratched with some decent dates thrown in and no complicated bs. You can have a bit of fun while working on your issues and meeting other women.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think Dave has an obvious issue, but he is terrified to admit it. That's why he keep swirling so much delusion around.

To wit:

He gets approached by more women than anybody he knows.

The only women that don't approach him JUST HAPPEN to be the women he "wants."

He keeps referring to how much action he WOULD get if he WAS gay.

He says it's "morally wrong" to date girls that he hasn't decided to MARRY before the first date.

He doesn't even like to hang out with girls if they AREN'T HIS TYPE.

He's never had a relationship with a woman.

He is always commenting how ATTRACTIVE he is.

He talks about how much money he makes but he NEVER uses prostitutes.

All of these point in one direction.

Dave is gay, but he is TERRIFIED to admit it.

Dave, either consider that you are gay, OR consider banging some of these girls just for the experience. Many of them would bang you just for the experience. Get drunk, turn out the lights, and have fun.

OR, go gay. Accept it. Nothing wrong with being gay. NOTHING.

Dude, it's like a girl! Lol. They only want the guys would DONT want them, and the guys that want them they don't want.

 

[Red Legg]

I'm black yet the white guys usually in my presence are invisible to women of any ethnicity.

Really... I'm a old white man (47) and I am swimming in pvssy.

 

[malz1]

Really... I'm a old white man (47) and I am swimming in pvssy.

Cool story bro

 

[Red Legg]

Cool story bro

As a matter of fact some of the most pvssy whipped men I have known have been black.

 

[skinnyguy]

Dating is incredibly genetic based.

If your dad was good with women, you'll be good with women.

I also think that it's the same when it comes to education. If your parents are smart, you will be too. But with dating, there is less help available in the real world. If you're dumb, teachers will push you to get better and there are all kinds of scholarships for dumb people to get a college education. This doesn't exist for dating. Huge barriers prevent ugly guys from getting what they want.

 

[IKO69]

It's the pinnacle but it doesn't have to be hard. Guys make it hard because they mix priorities. You gotta invest in yourself first and then the women will come.