Women notice when you actually enjoy talking to them beyond just trying to get laid

[bigdave17]

Would you guys not agree with this?

Women have a six sense for a guy who is just talking to them to get laid. They want to be around someone who really likes them and enjoys talking to them beyond any agenda. I'm trying to change this in my head and really talk to women because I love being around them, instead of worrying about outcome/trying to make them want to date me.

 

[zekko]

Mystery used to teach the indirect approach, he tried to convince the girl he was NOT hitting on her and wasn't interested in her. That made her
1) Wonder why she wasn't interested in her, and
2) Made her relax and let her guard down, which gave him time to run his game and DHV techniques on her.

Others would say that it is the directness and sexual intent that makes you attractive, so I'd say either can be true. But I've always been interested in women as both people and for sex (well, usually anyway).

 

[bigdave17]

Mystery used to teach the indirect approach, he tried to convince the girl he was NOT hitting on her and wasn't interested in her. That made her
1) Wonder why she wasn't interested in her, and
2) Made her relax and let her guard down, which gave him time to run his game and DHV techniques on her.

Others would say that it is the directness and sexual intent that makes you attractive, so I'd say either can be true. But I've always been interested in women as both people and for sex (well, usually anyway).

I like both indirect/direct approach

you talk to them cause you like them as people but are very attracted to them sexually also

 

[Dingo]

Yes..... And use it to your advantage.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Don't lose your attraction if you want to hit it . Observe her interest beyond those stimulating convos.

 

[IKO69]

Not necessarily. Whenever you approach a woman, esp one you don't know, she knows exactly what you want. The only time this changes is in the context of a coworker or something. You just have to have tact when you do so....don't overdo it but demonstrate value. You have to play it cool.

 

[Von]

Well have to agree with OP.

Guys who show "more interest" in the "girl" and are less "sex-only" will score more often.

However, to be "indirect approach" or "don't behave sexually driven only" .... You have to be
1) confident
2) solid frame (in control of your impulse)
3) Show genuine interest outside of sex (like a salesman not thinking about his commission$$ but about the client interest only)
4) Don't be needy
5) Not being sex starved will help point 1 to 4.

More reason for OP to have sex with girls outside of his standards, more reason for OP to start focusing on what's between his ears (aka brain) than his look, more reason to approach often to get experience (no matter the HB level), more reason to play it "cool" , more reason to be outcome independant and "free" .

Women know why you are approaching them, you have too build her interest (connect with her emotionally/personally) so she keeps that door open to eventually cross it to join you at your place and in your bed.

If we want to do "Indirect" vs "direct" approach.... The winner is the one you are more comfortable or efficient in using. Also, the context: Indirect approach might work better in a club/bar scene cause her "defence will be highest" as she expect to be "hit on by guys" ... a direct approach might work better in a "relax-confortable" area like a library.

Any approach you choose, the success will come from YOU and the GIRL CHOICE.

I will add: being spontaneous about it (from approach to closure) will give you massive advantage since the girl will know you are "genuinely interested" instead of "making an effort to have her". It choses experience/confidence... more value for you in her eyes.

To finish: Stop thinking and just do it... you are your best ally (and your worst enemy)... so keep the Ally mode in.

How? Stop thinking and just do it, repeat point 1 to 5 all the time

 

[bigdave17]

Well have to agree with OP.

Guys who show "more interest" in the "girl" and are less "sex-only" will score more often.

However, to be "indirect approach" or "don't behave sexually driven only" .... You have to be
1) confident
2) solid frame (in control of your impulse)
3) Show genuine interest outside of sex (like a salesman not thinking about his commission$$ but about the client interest only)
4) Don't be needy
5) Not being sex starved will help point 1 to 4.

More reason for OP to have sex with girls outside of his standards, more reason for OP to start focusing on what's between his ears (aka brain) than his look, more reason to approach often to get experience (no matter the HB level), more reason to play it "cool" , more reason to be outcome independant and "free" .

Women know why you are approaching them, you have too build her interest (connect with her emotionally/personally) so she keeps that door open to eventually cross it to join you at your place and in your bed.

If we want to do "Indirect" vs "direct" approach.... The winner is the one you are more comfortable or efficient in using. Also, the context: Indirect approach might work better in a club/bar scene cause her "defence will be highest" as she expect to be "hit on by guys" ... a direct approach might work better in a "relax-confortable" area like a library.

Any approach you choose, the success will come from YOU and the GIRL CHOICE.

I will add: being spontaneous about it (from approach to closure) will give you massive advantage since the girl will know you are "genuinely interested" instead of "making an effort to have her". It choses experience/confidence... more value for you in her eyes.

To finish: Stop thinking and just do it... you are your best ally (and your worst enemy)... so keep the Ally mode in.

How? Stop thinking and just do it, repeat point 1 to 5 all the time

I don't care about sex so I never come across as sex starved

 

[PeasantPlayer]

"Game" and "talking" have always been my weak point, possibly because I am so blunt and I don't realize it. One older chick was checking me out, she was dressed up as a dominatrix. I seen a seat open next to her so I casually sat down, started with "What are you suppose to be?" She stared at me like she was about to smack me, she was like "I look good" how come you don't?" I let off a small laugh and quickly turned the convo back, said I didn't mean it that way, and it looks nice and she is comfortable. She smiles....
and lightens up and we talk for a few more minutes and I got bored and left.

Chick 2 was checking me out upstairs, so she comes up to me and was like "Why you looking like security?" I was like I got my eyes on you and everybody. Some white knight was kind of behind her looking at us in jealousy. I asked who he was and I couldn't hear here answer. White Knight starts to dance with her all the while shes staring at me.

I seen her later sitting at the bar I strike up a convo, I asked her what nationality she was and like the first chick she had that offended look. She was like I'm American! (she had a **** trump shirt on) I'm like so am I, but I have American is a nationality. She was too drunk to be offended any more and we talk some more, but the white knight came back and I let him have what he so desperately needed

Damn talking to women is a chore

 

[Von]

I don't care about sex so I never come across as sex starved

Your post/threads/comments/actions tells us a different story. 1250 posts about the same question... brings great suspicions

If you can't get a girl no matter how great you are.... It means you are greatly sex starved. Fitting for a great guy

If you are really not sex starved. Just get dates and get a GF. It's by approaching you will meet your great gf for the great guy you are.

I mean how will you find the girl of your dreams, if you aren't never talking/meeting/putting yourself out there ? It doesn't matter if the ones you meet aren't your style... its by making a "move" you'll meet girls and one day "your girl" will show up.... Oh and you'll be great enough for her to accept you

Until than: get a personality, and don't be afraid of getting out of the closet

 

[bigdave17]

Your post/threads/comments/actions tells us a different story. 1250 posts about the same question... brings great suspicions

If you can't get a girl no matter how great you are.... It means you are greatly sex starved. Fitting for a great guy

If you are really not sex starved. Just get dates and get a GF. It's by approaching you will meet your great gf for the great guy you are.

I mean how will you find the girl of your dreams, if you aren't never talking/meeting/putting yourself out there ? It doesn't matter if the ones you meet aren't your style... its by making a "move" you'll meet girls and one day "your girl" will show up.... Oh and you'll be great enough for her to accept you

Until than: get a personality, and don't be afraid of getting out of the closet

I badly want a GF but I'm not trying to get laid. In fact, if a woman wants to have sex with me quickly, I would probably not be interested in her anyways. I want somebody very classy and somebody who will probably make me wait until like date 3 or 4 and no I'm not one of those hypocrites who will push hard for sex and then call her a ***** afterwards. I would let the sex naturally happen


Get dates? I want a early to late 20s ethnic cute gym going babe with no kids, good personality and decent job. I don't get any dates with anybody like that

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't care about sex so I never come across as sex starved

Just androgenous. A lack of sex is not attractive . Your male attraction signal likely is shut down.

 

[Spinach]

Just a question. If you don't care about sex, why do you keep going posting about being an total failure with women that are worthy of YOUR attention, even though you are the best looking, best dressed, best financial status and coolest dude in the universe?

 

[Spinach]

Oops! Someone beat me to the punch! Same question, different words. Carry on.

 

[bigdave17]

Just a question. If you don't care about sex, why do you keep going posting about being an total failure with women that are worthy of YOUR attention, even though you are the best looking, best dressed, best financial status and coolest dude in the universe?

I love sex, I can masturbate 18 times a day


but I want 1 woman - an extremely high quality one - that I will be 100% loyal to

 

[Young OG]

I badly want a GF but I'm not trying to get laid. In fact, if a woman wants to have sex with me quickly, I would probably not be interested in her anyways. I want somebody very classy and somebody who will probably make me wait until like date 3 or 4 and no I'm not one of those hypocrites who will push hard for sex and then call her a ***** afterwards. I would let the sex naturally happen


Get dates? I want a early to late 20s ethnic cute gym going babe with no kids, good personality and decent job. I don't get any dates with anybody like that

Your problem is that your way to thristy for the perfect girl and that your not getting any sex right now. Women can sniff both out. Your way to picky and you most likely will never find exactly what your looking for. Your pretty much looking for a needle in a hay stack. You need to accept that and stop making stupid threads on here everyday.

You have been given so much advice on here and you never take any of it. It's time to start listening to the advice given and go take action.

 

[bigdave17]

Your problem is that your way to thristy for the perfect girl and that your not getting any sex right now. Women can sniff both out. Your way to picky and you most likely will never find exactly what your looking for. Your pretty much looking for a needle in a hay stack. You need to accept that and stop making stupid threads on here everyday.

You have been given so much advice on here and you never take any of it. It's time to start listening to the advice given and go take action.

my tastes are not really that unique. I've seen 8 girls at my gym who fit exactly what I want

- cute 23-25 year old venezuelan looking chick (she is college educated cause I always see her wearing a university of illinois shirt). Cute face, great little body that I could turn into a fitness model if she trained with me

- 24 - 28 year old greek girl. Beautiful face. Great body with huge ass and thick thighs - so fukking hot omg. Unfortunately she is married

- 24-28 year old eastern european girl with dark features. Cute face. Great body with thick thighs and dat ass. Comes in with a guy who is a 3/10

etc.... It's just hard to approach and ask any of these women out. There are always a million obstacles in the way

 

[Young OG]

my tastes are not really that unique. I've seen 8 girls at my gym who fit exactly what I want

- cute 23-25 year old venezuelan looking chick (she is college educated cause I always see her wearing a university of illinois shirt). Cute face, great little body that I could turn into a fitness model if she trained with me

- 24 - 28 year old greek girl. Beautiful face. Great body with huge ass and thick thighs - so fukking hot omg. Unfortunately she is married

- 24-28 year old eastern european girl with dark features. Cute face. Great body with thick thighs and dat ass. Comes in with a guy who is a 3/10

etc.... It's just hard to approach and ask any of these women out. There are always a million obstacles in the way

Those obstacles are all in your head. Im guessing the obstacles are other people near her. You need to stop caring what other people think and just approach. Most people are so wrapped up in there own lives that they won't even remember you the next day. Go up to them and talk to them. Ask them out for a drink or coffee. Dont worry about rejection.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Your problem is that your way to thristy for the perfect girl and that your not getting any sex right now. Women can sniff both out. Your way to picky and you most likely will never find exactly what your looking for. Your pretty much looking for a needle in a hay stack. You need to accept that and stop making stupid threads on here everyday.

You have been given so much advice on here and you never take any of it. It's time to start listening to the advice given and go take action.

I've already explained that the searching for a girlfriend technique does not work . It appears needy to females .

I and others here speak from experience. Just get in the game .

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

However, to be "indirect approach" or "don't behave sexually driven only" .... You have to be
1) confident
2) solid frame (in control of your impulse)
3) Show genuine interest outside of sex (like a salesman not thinking about his commission$$ but about the client interest only)
4) Don't be needy
5) Not being sex starved will help point 1 to 4.

More reason for OP to have sex with girls outside of his standards, more reason for OP to start focusing on what's between his ears (aka brain) than his look, more reason to approach often to get experience (no matter the HB level), more reason to play it "cool" , more reason to be outcome independant and "free" .

Women know why you are approaching them, you have too build her interest (connect with her emotionally/personally) so she keeps that door open to eventually cross it to join you at your place and in your bed.

If we want to do "Indirect" vs "direct" approach.... The winner is the one you are more comfortable or efficient in using. Also, the context: Indirect approach might work better in a club/bar scene cause her "defence will be highest" as she expect to be "hit on by guys" ... a direct approach might work better in a "relax-confortable" area like a library.

Any approach you choose, the success will come from YOU and the GIRL CHOICE.

I will add: being spontaneous about it (from approach to closure) will give you massive advantage since the girl will know you are "genuinely interested" instead of "making an effort to have her". It choses experience/confidence... more value for you in her eyes.

To finish: Stop thinking and just do it... you are your best ally (and your worst enemy)... so keep the Ally mode in.

How? Stop thinking and just do it, repeat point 1 to 5 all the time

Or monk mode...