What do you all think about RSD?

[nicksaiz65]

I’ve got a Tinder date coming up this weekend. In the meantime, I’ve been watching a lot of RSD to keep myself entertained. I feel like I’ve learned a good bit of useful information from their videos. But I also see a lot of hate from them.

I’m gonna continue watching cause I like their information. But since I respect the Don Juan opinion on here, I wanted to know what you all thought about them. Thoughts?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't know all his stuff but the one that stuck was "do four years as a player before even trying to have a girlfriend. when you can choose from 20 good choices then your ready to have a girlfriend."

 

[Infern0]

Imo it's a scattergun approach they take. Some of their stuff hits, a lot of it doesn't.

they are good for true noobs imo as if you follow their basics you will stop AFC and nice guy mistakes, but at a certain point you have to figure out your core values and evolve your own style.

Also never forget they are businessmen first and foremost and their aim is getting $$$ out of dudes.

 

[Tilex]

They babble on way too much in their youtube video's.
You'll watch 60 minutes of footage and only get 10 minutes of useful info.

I gave up on getting any useful advice from them 6 years ago.
It felt like a waste of time.

 

[zekko]

You'll watch 60 minutes of footage and only get 10 minutes of useful info.

Omigosh, when I first started studying seduction material, things like that just drove me NUTS! And it's not just RSD, it's pretty much all of the PUA stuff. You read a whole chapter, and there's one small tiny tip at the end of it, and the rest is all filler and hype:

"I used to struggle with women myself until I learned this. What if I told you there was one thing you could do that would get girls to notice you instantly? Women are wired in such a way that when they see this in a man, they cannot help but respond to it. One day I met a natural and he let me go out with him to a club. It was amazing how women responded to him! They all loved him and couldn't get enough of him. I was so confused, how was he doing it? I asked him, and he agreed to tell me his secret. The secret that I am now going to pass on to you. But first, let me tell you this story about one of my clients...."

You could fit all the useful stuff as bullet points on to one page if you want.

RSD is okay, it's like everything else. Check into it and if there's something there that you can use, use it. Throw the rest away. It seems directed toward a fairly young crowd to me, even though I remember Owen talking about a 50 year old client that he had.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Omigosh, when I first started studying seduction material, things like that just drove me NUTS! And it's not just RSD, it's pretty much all of the PUA stuff. You read a whole chapter, and there's one small tiny tip at the end of it, and the rest is all filler and hype:

"I used to struggle with women myself until I learned this. What if I told you there was one thing you could do that would get girls to notice you instantly? Women are wired in such a way that when they see this in a man, they cannot help but respond to it. One day I met a natural and he let me go out with him to a club. It was amazing how women responded to him! They all loved him and couldn't get enough of him. I was so confused, how was he doing it? I asked him, and he agreed to tell me his secret. The secret that I am now going to pass on to you. But first, let me tell you this story about one of my clients...."

You could fit all the useful stuff as bullet points on to one page if you want.

RSD is okay, it's like everything else. Check into it and if there's something there that you can use, use it. Throw the rest away. It seems directed toward a fairly young crowd to me, even though I remember Owen talking about a 50 year old client that he had.

So what was the several bullet points that made the natural irresistible?

 

[Tilex]

Omigosh, when I first started studying seduction material, things like that just drove me NUTS! And it's not just RSD, it's pretty much all of the PUA stuff. You read a whole chapter, and there's one small tiny tip at the end of it, and the rest is all filler and hype:

"I used to struggle with women myself until I learned this. What if I told you there was one thing you could do that would get girls to notice you instantly? Women are wired in such a way that when they see this in a man, they cannot help but respond to it. One day I met a natural and he let me go out with him to a club. It was amazing how women responded to him! They all loved him and couldn't get enough of him. I was so confused, how was he doing it? I asked him, and he agreed to tell me his secret. The secret that I am now going to pass on to you. But first, let me tell you this story about one of my clients...."

You could fit all the useful stuff as bullet points on to one page if you want.

RSD is okay, it's like everything else. Check into it and if there's something there that you can use, use it. Throw the rest away. It seems directed toward a fairly young crowd to me, even though I remember Owen talking about a 50 year old client that he had.

Seriously!
They repeat the same sentences and words so many times that you can practically make a drinking game out of it.
They fill your head with more junk information than useful information, and it's very cookie cutter in the way they approach this.
In my mind I only see RSD as Pua Spam. It's advice, but it's not useful advice.
You're just listening to incoherent nonsense.

If they wrote a book in the same manner they spoke advice, it would look like elementary school level English. Most of these guys don't even pause in between sentences.
I used to get aggravated watching their videos because they sounded like they were always rushing to get the words out in time, but they were just babbling for a full hour! LOL

 

[sosousage]

i just did read one long document because thats what i found free and imo its best thing ive read

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The reason why I never really liked RSD as much as here was because their name was misleading. It stands for Real Social Dynamics, but they rarely ever teach you or talk about social dynamics at all. When they do, it’s one of the greatest bits ever. But for the most part, they don’t, it’s just a PUA website now. SS talks about getting laid too, but the overall atmosphere of the two places differs. Here it’s like you learn about social dynamics via what someone here says about something in regards to being asked advice about women. There, it’s like they give you only player advice and not life advice at all regardless of what you ask them. For the most part, older posts of the manosphere in general are better. But newer ones suck. RSD is good for noobs, but not as good for higher level thinking. I know that one pornstar/businessman named Rocco Siffredi used to post there actually, and now he hit it big. He used to not be **** and grew up broke as ****, didn’t know how to do anything, couldn’t get women, had a ****ty life as a kid. But he was hungry. He said he read every self help book he could get, started trying for women, just GRINDED to make his life better. Posts like his were of the few extreme goldmines of info that you could take from. Unfortunately, he deleted his account and you can’t find it anymore. Maybe you can find it on internet archives or something, but this was years ago since I last read his post or even visited RSD. And by the way, you can learn pretty much everything from posts like that from the DJ Bible, The Book of Pook, and The Black Flag. I didn’t read all of the Bible (barely read it tbh lol but that’s because when I first found this place I read only old ass posts from the early 2000s somehow), not did I even read the Black Flag at all even though I have it, and the Book of Pook was huge, but I only read about half of it. I read many of Pook’s posts during my time reading the older forum posts. Honestly, I still cannot believe how one man was able to figure out and articulate in such a well-written and clever way how women work and what it means to be a man. And I’m shocked that he got so far with it too before he left. Most people who gained his knowledge would have left way long before getting to that point of wisdom, much less write about it all. That’s why I like him so much. He stayed for longer than he even needed to and opened my eyes to just how much men are attacked at being men (i.e. feminism). One dude had such a strong impact. At least on me anyway. Thanks Pook.

But yeah, all you really need to read is the Book of Pook and you’re good. It really is timeless.

 

[nicksaiz65]

The reason why I never really liked RSD as much as here was because their name was misleading. It stands for Real Social Dynamics, but they rarely ever teach you or talk about social dynamics at all. When they do, it’s one of the greatest bits ever. But for the most part, they don’t, it’s just a PUA website now. SS talks about getting laid too, but the overall atmosphere of the two places differs. Here it’s like you learn about social dynamics via what someone here says about something in regards to being asked advice about women. There, it’s like they give you only player advice and not life advice at all regardless of what you ask them. For the most part, older posts of the manosphere in general are better. But newer ones suck. RSD is good for noobs, but not as good for higher level thinking. I know that one pornstar/businessman named Rocco Siffredi used to post there actually, and now he hit it big. He used to not be **** and grew up broke as ****, didn’t know how to do anything, couldn’t get women, had a ****ty life as a kid. But he was hungry. He said he read every self help book he could get, started trying for women, just GRINDED to make his life better. Posts like his were of the few extreme goldmines of info that you could take from. Unfortunately, he deleted his account and you can’t find it anymore. Maybe you can find it on internet archives or something, but this was years ago since I last read his post or even visited RSD. And by the way, you can learn pretty much everything from posts like that from the DJ Bible, The Book of Pook, and The Black Flag. I didn’t read all of the Bible (barely read it tbh lol but that’s because when I first found this place I read only old ass posts from the early 2000s somehow), not did I even read the Black Flag at all even though I have it, and the Book of Pook was huge, but I only read about half of it. I read many of Pook’s posts during my time reading the older forum posts. Honestly, I still cannot believe how one man was able to figure out and articulate in such a well-written and clever way how women work and what it means to be a man. And I’m shocked that he got so far with it too before he left. Most people who gained his knowledge would have left way long before getting to that point of wisdom, much less write about it all. That’s why I like him so much. He stayed for longer than he even needed to and opened my eyes to just how much men are attacked at being men (i.e. feminism). One dude had such a strong impact. At least on me anyway. Thanks Pook.

But yeah, all you really need to read is the Book of Pook and you’re good. It really is timeless.

Oh yeah. The Book of Pook is incredible.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I’ve got a Tinder date coming up this weekend. In the meantime, I’ve been watching a lot of RSD to keep myself entertained. I feel like I’ve learned a good bit of useful information from their videos. But I also see a lot of hate from them.

I’m gonna continue watching cause I like their information. But since I respect the Don Juan opinion on here, I wanted to know what you all thought about them. Thoughts?

IMHO there's a lot value but, like anything and everything, free thinking goes a long way.

I think their older content is bang on. Mystery Method for instance but, like anything over time, it gets played out.

Rsd is venturing into self help and hocus pocus. There's bang on stuff like Tyler's older content but he has nonsense too. Madison I knew of and his game was wackkkk. Better then most here but laughable to consider paying him.

IMHO Julian is their best. I think Alex is good. There is Todd but he is boring. Julian is fire despite going full retard years ago. Drama is real.being polarized works. Unfortunately, he awoke the gatee of hell and female victimhood. His transformation mastery is useless unless you are advances or high level with respect to pickups. Like, if your Sticking point is approach anxiety, Dave your breathe. The infield death meditation is profound. Its insightful like tripping on a psychedelic. Furthermore, most guys are beaten down by life so,this works out demons. Ten game was fire.

Their free tour is free. 5min up sell at the end. Lots of content, wings, resources.

Overall, its great. IMHO I've not seen better then Julian though I WK curious about his present game ATM. Max is a chill kid too. Similar style as Julian but less aggressive.

Op, listen, span approach, see what works for you but don't follow blind.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Seriously!
They repeat the same sentences and words so many times that you can practically make a drinking game out of it.
They fill your head with more junk information than useful information, and it's very cookie cutter in the way they approach this.
In my mind I only see RSD as Pua Spam. It's advice, but it's not useful advice.
You're just listening to incoherent nonsense.

If they wrote a book in the same manner they spoke advice, it would look like elementary school level English. Most of these guys don't even pause in between sentences.
I used to get aggravated watching their videos because they sounded like they were always rushing to get the words out in time, but they were just babbling for a full hour! LOL

That's game.

Spam approach. Swipe right at life. Pull

Repeat.

Its s on #s game. Obv calibrate. Focus, core purpose.

Again, I recommended thinking for yourself. Check free tours. See for yourself. Decide.

The onus is on self.

 

[skinnyguy]

RSD Max thinks that sex is a “reward”. I disagree. That mindset causes you to pedestalize puss.

 

[zekko]

So what was the several bullet points that made the natural irresistible?

I was just making up an example of how they use so much filler to pad out their content.

But if you get to the end of the chapter, after all that BS and hype, and they reveal the "secret" that will make you "irresistible to women", it's usually something like "Don't do everything she asks you to" or something else that you've heard 1,000 times before. If you are familiar with PUA material at all. Most of them are all saying practically the same thing.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I was just making up an example of how they use so much filler to pad out their content.

But if you get to the end of the chapter, after all that BS and hype, and they reveal the "secret" that will make you "irresistible to women", it's usually something like "Don't do everything she asks you to" or something else that you've heard 1,000 times before. If you are familiar with PUA material at all. Most of them are all saying practically the same thing.

That one is true and falls along the lines of don't give free easy validation and respect your time.

 

[ohrein]

RSD Max thinks that sex is a “reward”. I disagree. That mindset causes you to pedestalize puss.

Yeah that's no good. I actually think where many men fail is that they "need" sex. If a woman gets even a whiff of a guy needing sex then she now has power over the man.

As for RSD and PUA's in general, I think it's important to move past them at some point. We all start there but it's really learning how to play the game without actually understanding it. Guaranteed frustration. There are useful nuggets here and there but generally they can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[zekko]

That one is true and falls along the lines of don't give free easy validation and respect your time.

It's not bad advice, but if you've studied ANY seduction material at all, you would have heard that over and over again already. And I don't think you can say that in itself makes you "irresistible to women". Especially since she has to ask you to do something in the first place, before you can even use it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It's not bad advice, but if you've studied ANY seduction material at all, you would have heard that over and over again already. And I don't think you can say that in itself makes you "irresistible to women". Especially since she has to ask you to do something in the first place, before you can even use it.

I think if we can just be calm cool and collected and not so eager to please. The valuation will come across.

 

[MrAddiction]

Oh yeah. The Book of Pook is incredible.

That has nothing got to so with RSD!

 

[RangerMIke]

Watched a few of their videos a couple of years ago, the redheaded bald guy is hilarious. He has good presentation skills. One he did that cracked me up was when he was explaining why women like strong men and don't particularity value men that are devoted to them... if that doesn't come with them also being a bad@ss. Bad@ss devoted > Bad@ss > Devoted. He also explained why women would be happier sharing an Alpha male with other women rather than have a weak man all to herself. He did it a lot better than I could and he did it in a very funny way. He used an example of a caveman chief who was a good hunter and protective of his women and compared this to "Steve"... it was hilarious. She doesn't care if you love her and that she is the only women in your life if all you are providing is 'leaves' for clothes and a squirrel for a meal. And he correctly pointed out that throughout MOST of human history the world was a very dangerous place, where if a women found herself with a man to protect her she was dead... evolution is why women are the way they are.