Truth is, Attraction is 9/10 of the law

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I get it, similar setup in my world too, it's all sales. You can't say you might be the best car salesmen in the country though, don't you realise how deluded that is? You've met a few guys making more who than you, what about the tens of thousands of others you haven't met? This is all part of your personality defect/faults. You really do think you're a top 5% human don't you.
 

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I get it, similar setup in my world too, it's all sales. You can't say you might be the best car salesmen in the country though, don't you realise how deluded that is? You've met a few guys making more who than you, what about the tens of thousands of others you haven't met? This is all part of your personality defect/faults. You really do think you're a top 5% human don't you.
I said I "might" - which really means I could be #1 or #50. Keep in mind I'm the best by far at one of the top 50 busiest dealerships in the country for my brand

In any scenario, the point remains the same. I'm massively efficient at converting customers into sales and I close at 40%. Nobody is closing sales at 80% and nobody is closing women at 80%
 

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no fukking chance anybody has a 75% success rate cold approaching

Even if you're incredibly charismatic and good looking, beefy, lean, stylish...what percent of women are actually open to going out with somebody they talk to for 20 minutes? maybe 30%? Most are gonna be in relationships/married/etc....

That's like saying a great salesman is going to close customers at 80%. Complete nonsense - I'm the best car salesman in my state and maybe in my country and I close like 40%. I make people love me instantly, always work every deal very intelligently, am very handsome and well dressed at work myself but 50-60% of the time, i have no chance at all due to factors I can't control - apply same analogy to dating
Let me rephrase that

A 75% success rate on tinder.

Attractive guys wouldnt waste time doing cold approach
 

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You can't say you might be the best car salesmen in the country though, don't you realise how deluded that is?
He's the best car salesman in the country, except he's not.

But I agree with the rest of your post, you are very handsome and people love you instantly, hence all the threads you make.
He may be on to something. Mystery said to DHV, he just did it in a more subtle way. Why be coy? Dave can approach a chick and tell her right off that he is very handsome, he has pretty hair, that people love him instantly, and that he's better than 90% of the other guys, and that way she'll know right away.
 

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We all know how it works but not any different than old women sometime we find ways to bullsh1t ourself into thinking we can "run the show" by learning game.

A man who thinks he is gonna get the same results of a chad just by learning game is not any different than an old fat woman who thinks a further degree and a promotion at work is gonna get her guys.

No amount of game is gonna push us above anyone with a look score more tha 1 point higher than us, game gets you above someone close in terms of look...just forget fairy tales and 90s movies where the nerds get the girls in the end.

Given the choice between improving my game seriously or get back the hairline I had in my early 20s, I would pick the hairline being totally sure it would be a game changer and Im not even seriously bald.

Confidence allows you to pull the trigger but you need to have a loeaded gun first.

Not trying to be a d1ck but anyone should really ask himself if its worth the hassle given what his current status allows him to get.
The hairline doesnt matter. Shave your head. Wear a hat. Who cares. If you think a hairline will get you more women than game you are very sorely mistaken. Or else your version of game is so weak it wouldn't make any difference.
 

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The hairline doesnt matter. Shave your head. Wear a hat. Who cares. If you think a hairline will get you more women than game you are very sorely mistaken. Or else your version of game is so weak it wouldn't make any difference.
If he had game he'd have a rotation of some of the ones who want to give to him. And get wouldn't be paying alot of attention where he currently isn't getting alot of bites at.
 

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The hairline doesnt matter. Shave your head. Wear a hat. Who cares. If you think a hairline will get you more women than game you are very sorely mistaken. Or else your version of game is so weak it wouldn't make any difference.


I guess a six pack doesnt mean either? more game will balance it?
What about broad shoulders or height? guess more game will do again.
lol marmel, I like your posts when it comes of training but when it comes of looks awfully the king is naked and we all know it.
 

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You're just scratching the surface


Of course 6’2 good looking guys are going to have plenty of interest that’s what any red blooded woman is told to be attracted to by her genetics


Problem is when relationships are based solely on looks they don’t tend to last very long chicks need that mental stimulation or the physical attraction will just burn out for her


So your friend may be golden in getting poon in the short term but if he lacks charisma and leadership in the long term he’s going to struggle to get it too stick around


To attract chicks you need several components


1) Some degree of looks you don’t need to look like david beckham but you need to have some sort of edge about you whether it be the way you dress or the way you style your hair


2) Confidence, confidence , confidence ……I know it sounds like the old cliché but honestly women love a man who knows what they are doing in all areas of life


3) Be in shape ! go to the gym define your muscles as well as you can


4) Dress well ! , very well

5) dont worry about what other people are doing !
 

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I guess a six pack doesnt mean either? more game will balance it?
What about broad shoulders or height? guess more game will do again.
lol marmel, I like your posts when it comes of training but when it comes of looks awfully the king is naked and we all know it.
And? Thats not a shaven head. Its a low haircut. You think women would care if Vin Diesel had hair or the Rock had hair instead of a shaved head? Even if they weren't famous?

Your problem is you spend more time crying about things you dont have instead of figuring out how to best use the things you do have. As do many other guys here.
 

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And? Thats not a shaven head. Its a low haircut. You think women would care if Vin Diesel had hair or the Rock had hair instead of a shaved head? Even if they weren't famous?

Your problem is you spend more time crying about things you dont have instead of figuring out how to best use the things you do have. As do many other guys here.
Mate Im not vin diesel nor the rock neither are you...what you call crying is understanding reality.

If thinking that by doing something undefined, you can overcome facts and that helps you to relax its fine but dont be mad at others if they dont bullsh1t themselves.

All this "game will get you everywhere" madness is not any different than fat old women getting degrees or act "confident" cause they think it will help to make c0cks hard.

If you're short and bald no amount of game is gonna give you an edge over a tall goodlooking guy, no amount of bench press, jewelry, pick lines, funny come backs or whatever you mean by game.

You have the stats right in this board, 20% of guys gets 80% of girls.

So agree on the "improve youself" message, thats damn right wheter its diet, training, finances or whater but lets not bullsh1t each other with fables please.
 

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Not rocket science to anyone who has gained weight or lost hair in a relationship and watched attraction plummet.
Not rocket science to anyone who has gained weight or lost hair in a relationship and watched attraction plummet.
Sometimes they really love us though, and you can lose attraction and she's still giving you the pvssy.

I personally think it's not responsibile though. A man is responsible to stay attractive enough. No more Al Bundy's even if you have a loving wife .
 

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Sometimes they really love us though, and you can lose attraction and she's still giving you the pvssy.

I personally think it's not responsibile though. A man is responsible to stay attractive enough. No more Al Bundy's even if you have a loving wife .
Of course, goes both ways.
 

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Of course, goes both ways.
Yeah . Me and my friend figured that out 15 years ago .

My wife at the time loved me even with a beer gut, ****ed and sucked me nightly, enjoyed it.

But there was no denying her desire was stronger and she was hotter for me when I was fit .

No more Al Bundy's .
 

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There is truth in the OP, but it's only one element of the truth. Insomuch as physical beauty is only one element of human attraction.

I've banged 9's and 10's but got bored quickly because the compatibility wasn't there. This is particularly true for women because their arousal is much more dependent upon how a guy makes them feel, opposed to just how he looks.

This is significant to how guys, especially in fora such as this, get themselves blinkered by one element of female attraction.

Looks, muscularity, financial solvency, charisma, personality, status, creativity, rationality, intellect. These are only some elements of attraction. The more elements we maximise, the more attractive we become. Relying on one element is absolutely a fool's errand; as is not maximising all elements.

Looks only get you so far in life. Take that from the voice of experience.
 

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99% of the time you don’t get a girl it’s because you aren’t Chad enough
 

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I've banged 9's and 10's but got bored quickly because the compatibility wasn't there. This is particularly true for women because their arousal is much more dependent upon how a guy makes them feel, opposed to just how he looks.
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But you banged them so their looks did attract you, else why bang them. After attraction, then comes compatibility.
 

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But you banged them so their looks did attract you, else why bang them. After attraction, then comes compatibility.
It's true, but I certainly wouldn't bang a 10 who demonstrated a sh!tty attitude from the outset, for example, regardless of how hot she was.

It's particularly true of female list, their arousal is more complex than that of men. Men are visual creatures, women are aural. But I don't need to explain that to you.
 
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