Is it possible to work on your sexual market value while not caring about women?

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Whats up djs.

Ive been reading intensely about not working on yourself for womens sake but also SMV.

How do you work on your sexual market value while not doing it for the sake if women? It would be like working on a job promotion at work and telling yourself you don't care about the promotion while working towards it at the same time.

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Do things for yourself first, then for women secondly. It might take some shifting of your appreciation for why you’re upgrading yourself - but the point is to not be reliant on the ups and downs of women’s feedback on those accomplishments.

Example. You start going to the gym for women. You go for months, you start getting good results, looking great... but you’re only getting a bit more feedback from women. You’re expecting more and you’re not getting that encouragement from various women. So eventually you lose your motive and stop bothering to go.

Apply that same motivation to various assets of your life, and you find your motives tied to the very thing that can ebb and flow erratically, and thus have your being and life attached to the whims of others.

Enjoy the process of being the best version of yourself, regardless of women’s approval or others. It can certainly be a bonus (and it will always be if you’re improving yourself) - but this way you can enjoy your own personal approval first. Women come and go, but you are always with yourself. No shame in using it as a kickstart to your motive, getting you started however.
 

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Do things for yourself first, then for women secondly. It might take some shifting of your appreciation for why you’re upgrading yourself - but the point is to not be reliant on the ups and downs of women’s feedback on those accomplishments.

Example. You start going to the gym for women. You go for months, you start getting good results, looking great... but you’re only getting a bit more feedback from women. You’re expecting more and you’re not getting that encouragement from various women. So eventually you lose your motive and stop bothering to go.

Apply that same motivation to various assets of your life, and you find your motives tied to the very thing that can ebb and flow erratically, and thus have your being and life attached to the whims of others.

Enjoy the process of being the best version of yourself, regardless of women’s approval or others. It can certainly be a bonus (and it will always be if you’re improving yourself) - but this way you can enjoy your own personal approval first. Women come and go, but you are always with yourself. No shame in using it as a kickstart to your motive, getting you started however.
IDK.

Working out for your health I can understand.Dressing and grooming well for your public appearance i can understand. But when you are told to do those things to increase your SMV while being told to not do it for women is completely contradictory otherwise SMV wouldnt be mentioned as a goal. Unless you do those things for yourself to rub one out to yourself in the mirror.

Doing anything to increase your SMV is most definitely caring about the reception you receive from women. Same as women dressing up, wearing makeup, heels etc. to go out to clubs etc. and then telling people they dont care if men find them attractive. It would make no sense.
 

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Whats up djs.

Ive been reading intensely about not working on yourself for womens sake but also SMV.

How do you work on your sexual market value while not doing it for the sake if women? It would be like working on a job promotion at work and telling yourself you don't care about the promotion while working towards it at the same time.

Anyone?
Do shyt for yourself. Love you. Love your life . Zero ho chasing.
 

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Do shyt for yourself. Love you. Love your life . Zero ho chasing.
So you agree doing things to increase your SMV is pandering to what women aka the opposite sex wants and not doing things for yourself, otherwise SMV would never need to be mentioned.
 

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So you agree doing things to increase your SMV is pandering to what women aka the opposite sex wants and not doing things for yourself, otherwise SMV would never need to be mentioned.
No . Like babes do all that attention shyt to get attention . But they do it for themselves, not trying to impress men. Drape your built physique in fine coordinated clothes. Fine shoes and treat yourself well.
 

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Not everything has to be about ***** - if everything you do is motivated by ***** you will not get very far. Think I am kidding? Look at those people who put in effort then finally get a girlfriend....they think it's all over and no longer try and forget whatever it is they have learned. Then when they get a boot to the rear they are back to square one and don't know what they are doing.

You gotta find what it is you like to do and do it. Like if you want to be an engineer because it's something you have a lot of interest in- you go and you do it. The guys that have all the hot women, i mean really hot women by and large are doing this....This is one of the of your biggest attracting tools that exist and you don't even have to even be said thing...you have to be pursuing it of course but you just simply have to sell her on it, convey that you have this big lofty goal and indirectly mention all the perks that will come with it. When you meet a chick for the first time what do they typically try to find out? What is it that chicks talk to their friends about when it comes to guys? When it's guys they have an interest they talk about how they are a catch - their career, what goals they have, how they relate with other people; do other people like/look up to them, **** like that. You can't just be a bland guy when it comes to these things, it will not help your cause at all.

If you have nothing going on in your life then you really need to reconsider trying to pick up women thing until you do - I am absolutely serious.
 
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IDK.

Working out for your health I can understand.Dressing and grooming well for your public appearance i can understand. But when you are told to do those things to increase your SMV while being told to not do it for women is completely contradictory otherwise SMV wouldnt be mentioned as a goal. Unless you do those things for yourself to rub one out to yourself in the mirror.

Doing anything to increase your SMV is most definitely caring about the reception you receive from women. Same as women dressing up, wearing makeup, heels etc. to go out to clubs etc. and then telling people they dont care if men find them attractive. It would make no sense.
IKO69 explains it nicely. Read his post.
 

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The way I would word it, is that it is good to develop oneself in such a way as to garner respect from others and to feel good about how you're carrying yourself. That idea covers both respect from other men, and SMV simultaneously.
 

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Whats up djs.

Ive been reading intensely about not working on yourself for womens sake but also SMV.

How do you work on your sexual market value while not doing it for the sake if women? It would be like working on a job promotion at work and telling yourself you don't care about the promotion while working towards it at the same time.

Anyone?
It’s self contradictory because some of the Manosphere invest into cartoon fantasies that they need not tend to their SMV for women and 9s will be knocking down their door.

Quite hilarious mostly because men who think this way have never been with 9s, but rather regurgitating Manosphere jargon that have led those who gulped into the black pill aka “giving up on women.”

The truth is the sexual markeplace is like any other marketplace: the value you give is the value you receive in return. Those who don’t tend to the needs of the market will get little. But to those who do, they get the pick of the litter.
 

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Geez hardly any mystery. You should become accomplished because it leads to a solid character i.e. good member of society and a rich inner life. We all only experience the world through the screen in our mind. Being accomplished also gives you different viewpoints do you can create more win win interactions.
 
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