Noticing some women checking me out (Growth Journal, Log 4 of ∞)

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Been over 2 months since posting my last journal. To keep things concise, I'm going to post my Logs 4 and 5 separately.

I've been following a modified version of StrongLifts 5x5 program that EyeBRollin recommended to me since April 3rd after scrapping my old routine. I hit the gym M/W/F every week and have only missed 1 session on Memorial Day. Not only have I gotten stronger, I feel like my mentality improved. The change was really subtle and gradual. It's only recently that I began noticing that I'm speaking my mind without thinking twice and carrying myself out with more composure. I bet it's the testosterone boost I'm getting as I become stronger. Aside from feeling a little better, I don't feel any different.

But, what's been interesting is that I'm noticing some women taking glances at me now. I've never seen this before. I'm usually good about observing people in the corner of my eye so I doubt that I suddenly became really good at picking up on cues. I feel like the same person, only a little stronger and healthier, so this was unusual to me. This must mean that the surge of endorphins and testosterone I'm getting from working out is influencing my mind, which in turn translates over to better posture and body language. Most surprisingly, I'm talking to people without thinking twice without feeling unsure or nervous. I'm doing this like it's always been natural to me when it was not. I would feel uncertain and think before I speak to someone in the past. Again, I think more testosterone has something to do with this.

Here's some of my interactions.

HB 5 Late 30s White Lady
A friend and I visited an art museum in LA. This lady was looking at the same mural as we were and I made a comment to her on why the museum would put this beautiful mural behind a wall. After a few statements, we went off on our own ways. We ran into her on the museum's balcony and since we were walking close to each other, I decided to talk her again just because and to see what happened. I wasn't sure if I'd even ask for her number because she was older with wrinkles coming in, borderline average. I asked her if she went to art museums on Sundays and we briefly talked about how great the art collection was here. After we headed back inside, she said nice to meet you and hurried off in a power walk lol. My friend mentioned she probably was uncomfortable with the fact I might be hitting on her.


HB 4 20-something Asian girl
We headed over to a bar with its own backyard patio. As I was heading outside with my drink, a group of people were going through the door so I let them pass. I was looking straight ahead and in the corner of my eye, I saw that the Asian girl who passed by in the group turned her head to take a good look at me. Her group eventually came back outside and my friend said she eyef*cking me and looking over a bunch of times as we were talking. I wouldn't have gone for it anyway since she below average, had a boyfriend she was hugging, and was in a big group.


HB 6 Latina girl
Again from the corner of my eye, I noticed this girl eyeing me from her table when we were at a gastropub. Our tables were next to each other and my friend breaks the ice by saying something. I end up talking with this girl and ask her general questions like why her group is here and what she enjoys drinking. I began having trouble trying to expand the conversation so I ended it by excusing myself to avoid a lull.

I ended up talking with this girl's blue-haired friend with a lip piercing. I told her I liked her Rick & Morty shirt and she tried to bust my balls saying how she didn't like the cartoon. I figured she was a ball-busting social justice warrior so I made sure was more forceful in talking with her as she was trying to cut me off. It was like she was trying to prove me wrong and I wasn't going to enter her frame or apologize for anything. While I was talking to this b*tch, the HB 6 latina was talking with my friend. Later when we left, my friend regretted not getting this girl's number and said the blue-haired b*tch was trying to ****block us. Apparently, she was saying things like how the latina girl was bisexual and with her. Weird.
  • When you meet strangers at a bar, how do you transition into asking better questions and entering a deeper conversation after asking the usual questions like what brings you out tonight? I sometimes find myself stuck on how I can get the other person to talk about things they like.

  • I didn't care at all about grabbing the latina girl's number. If I did, was it better to just get her number before I left or try to isolate & escalate?
  • What's the best way to deal with these ball-busting, b*tchy girls? I was considering messing with her by saying things she wouldn't like or straight up ignoring her.
 
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1. Its always good to ask open ended questions. Makes it easy for the person responding to expand and creates more comfortable conversation.

Talk about yourself a little if they are apprehensive.

Here are some recent examples:

Howie: Very sexy heels! You are such a fashionista from head to toe. I could use your expertise.
Her: Thank you, I love shopping!
Howiestern: Great, so next time I need a new shirt I am calling on you.
Her: haha
Howiestern: Yeah I can never seem to find anything nice at WalMart. :)
Her: lol, you're funny but I highly doubt you bought those clothes at WalMart.
Howiestern: I know, I got them at the Salvation Army Thrift Store.
Her: shut up, you are so full of it. Actually sometimes my friend and I go there looking for cool old furniture.
Howiestern: That's cool, do you refinish this stuff yourself?
Her: blah blah blah
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Her: I overheard that you do xyz.
Howiestern: Yes I do, and have for several years.
Her: I used to work for the No-Name Network that covered several of those events.
Howiestern: Ahh, part of the broadcasting crew?
Her: Yes blah blah blah. What do you?
Howiestern: blah blah blah
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Howiestern: Hey, I like your shirt(had a rock band logo). Were you at their concert tonight?
Her: yeah had a blast.
Howiestern: I was there with a group of friends. I go to a lot of concerts but that was the first time at that venue.
Her: me too, really nice place. I like that the restaurants are so close. You can eat/drink then go to the concert.
Howiestern: yeah that's what we did.
Her: blah blah blah.
Howiestern: I need to meet up with my people, I don't want them to think you took me hostage! Whats your number? maybe we can hit up a concert some time.

2. If the girl doesn't want to do her part of helping the conversation along once you get it started then I eject. That's low interest, no point wasting your time when you have other girls to hit on. When I go out to bars to hit on girls, I scope out the room. Look for the hottest girls. Look for eye contact and body language that conveys they might want to be approached. Then I go talk to my targets. Spend 15minutes or less and try to get a number before I am onto the next. The only way I spend longer is if there is really good chemistry.

3. For the ball busters, I bust them back harder. If you think its an act on her part then tease her about being Ms. Power Puff or something silly/humorous like that. That usually diffuses them. If she is a natural hardcore ball buster mad at all the men in the world, then just eject.
 
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I like that program and have modified versions of it myself in the past.
Been over 2 months since posting my last journal. To keep things concise, I'm going to post my Logs 4 and 5 separately.

I've been following a modified version of StrongLifts 5x5 program that EyeBRollin recommended to me since April 3rd after scrapping my old routine. I hit the gym M/W/F every week and have only missed 1 session on Memorial Day. Not only have I gotten stronger, I feel like my mentality improved. The change was really subtle and gradual. It's only recently that I began noticing that I'm speaking my mind without thinking twice and carrying myself out with more composure. I bet it's the testosterone boost I'm getting as I become stronger. Aside from feeling a little better, I don't feel any different.

But, what's been interesting is that I'm noticing some women taking glances at me now. I've never seen this before. I'm usually good about observing people in the corner of my eye so I doubt that I suddenly became really good at picking up on cues. I feel like the same person, only a little stronger and healthier, so this was unusual to me. This must mean that the surge of endorphins and testosterone I'm getting from working out is influencing my mind, which in turn translates over to better posture and body language. Most surprisingly, I'm talking to people without thinking twice without feeling unsure or nervous. I'm doing this like it's always been natural to me when it was not. I would feel uncertain and think before I speak to someone in the past. Again, I think more testosterone has something to do with this.

Here's some of my interactions.

HB 5 Late 30s White Lady
A friend and I visited an art museum in LA. This lady was looking at the same mural as we were and I made a comment to her on why the museum would put this beautiful mural behind a wall. After a few statements, we went off on our own ways. We ran into her on the museum's balcony and since we were walking close to each other, I decided to talk her again just because and to see what happened. I wasn't sure if I'd even ask for her number because she was older with wrinkles coming in, borderline average. I asked her if she went to art museums on Sundays and we briefly talked about how great the art collection was here. After we headed back inside, she said nice to meet you and hurried off in a power walk lol. My friend mentioned she probably was uncomfortable with the fact I might be hitting on her.


HB 4 20-something Asian girl
We headed over to a bar with its own backyard patio. As I was heading outside with my drink, a group of people were going through the door so I let them pass. I was looking straight ahead and in the corner of my eye, I saw that the Asian girl who passed by in the group turned her head to take a good look at me. Her group eventually came back outside and my friend said she eyef*cking me and looking over a bunch of times as we were talking. I wouldn't have gone for it anyway since she below average, had a boyfriend she was hugging, and was in a big group.


HB 6 Latina girl
Again from the corner of my eye, I noticed this girl eyeing me from her table when we were at a gastropub. Our tables were next to each other and my friend breaks the ice by saying something. I end up talking with this girl and ask her general questions like why her group is here and what she enjoys drinking. I began having trouble trying to expand the conversation so I ended it by excusing myself to avoid a lull.

I ended up talking with this girl's blue-haired friend with a lip piercing. I told her I liked her Rick & Morty shirt and she tried to bust my balls saying how she didn't like the cartoon. I figured she was a ball-busting social justice warrior so I made sure was more forceful in talking with her as she was trying to cut me off. It was like she was trying to prove me wrong and I wasn't going to enter her frame or apologize for anything. While I was talking to this b*tch, the HB 6 latina was talking with my friend. Later when we left, my friend regretted not getting this girl's number and said the blue-haired b*tch was trying to ****block us. Apparently, she was saying things like how the latina girl was bisexual and with her. Weird.
  • When you meet strangers at a bar, how do you transition into asking better questions and entering a deeper conversation after asking the usual questions like what brings you out tonight? I sometimes find myself stuck on how I can get the other person to talk about things they like.

  • I didn't care at all about grabbing the latina girl's number. If I did, was it better to just get her number before I left or try to isolate & escalate?
  • What's the best way to deal with these ball-busting, b*tchy girls? I was considering messing with her by saying things she wouldn't like or straight up ignoring her.
 
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