The effect Luck has on dating and sex

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

It's part of it . You'd have the discipline to manage your time and attention in a way that your drive and motivation is preserved.

Drive isn’t preserved or unpreserved. It’s either there or it isn’t. It doesn’t start to wane like discipline or motivation.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Game ends up winning in many cases, game would indicate higher level of confidence and that's what the females are ultimately attracted to.

He's reliant pure and pure o. Social circle game. He can pull deviation above his smv. Even better than those above him. In a bar, club, gym, outside his area of comfort, he's not beyond A. A. The best players and puas I know pull regardless of the situation.

 

[zekko]

I agree there is a lot of luck involved, especially where the OP was talking about logistics - working at a place where the sex is easy, for example.

This isn't quite what the OP was talking about, but I noticed the other day that attraction is so random. I was out doing things and one girl would vibe well with me, then the next girl treated me like I was invisible, then the next girl would smile shyly at me, then the next girl was not at all interested in talking to me. Very random.

 

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He's reliant pure and pure o. Social circle game. He can pull deviation above his smv. Even better than those above him. In a bar, club, gym, outside his area of comfort, he's not beyond A. A. The best players and puas I know pull regardless of the situation.

They dont pull because they are attractive or know what theyre doing, they pull for a simple reason they keep going and going until they find a girl with standards low enough to accept being with them, that is if we're talking about average or unattractive guys try day game or hitting the club/bar ... if we'r talking about a hot guy with great style then yeah eh can probably pull at least 50% of the chicks he meets, if not bang them or make out then at least get a number and some text action.

 

[Slide]

I agree there is a lot of luck involved, especially where the OP was talking about logistics - working at a place where the sex is easy, for example.

This isn't quite what the OP was talking about, but I noticed the other day that attraction is so random. I was out doing things and one girl would vibe well with me, then the next girl treated me like I was invisible, then the next girl would smile shyly at me, then the next girl was not at all interested in talking to me. Very random.

I stopped trying to get girls or more accurately stopped trying harder than i should to get girls , for one reason if it was meant to be it will, if the girl is into you and she wants something and you act like a normal human beings chances are you will get that something from her at some point be it a serious relationship or some random hookup, so working hard and trying to be a player or some PUA is useless, at least its useless for men that dont really need any of that and can easily find another chick to approach .

My first gf was my coworker, a cute girl i would say around 6.5-7/10, during work we talked sometimes and she never seemed attracted to me or anything, s3x was never something we talked about and there was not even an ounce of sexuality in any interacion i had with her during work, a week before i quit to enroll in college for whatever reason she sent me a message telling me good luck with school and have fun ...etc , i didnt even think she was into me to begin with but i told her " yeah thank you, wanna hang out ? i have a week before school starts" and she agreed, first date nothing, second date make out session and BAM ! she became my gf for the next few months, i didnt even try i made no effort whatsoever ....... even now at college after dozens of chicks I still find it weird that some chicks are all over me, others show subtle interest and some act like i dont exist ... okay they do know i exist and their eyes and body language is more than enough proof but they're kinda indifferent.

I find that luck puts you in the right place at the right time and it makes things possible, i am the most unlucky dude i know when it comes to dating and chicks, i easily attract girls but they are either taken, play games or the place and timing is wrong, not to mention that every girl i ever met wanted a serious relationship with me, even when i said " i want sex nothing more nothing less" girls we're still trying to date me .... who knows what goes through their minds, i dont think i care enough about understanding women cause they dont understand themselves, however what i do care about is results, and the path of doing nothing has worked for me so far .

 

[sosousage]

it just depends on how many girls you are meeting. you meet more so you have more chance.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

There's a couple of old sayings that I think apply here. They are both familiar.

1. You make your own luck.

2. "Luck" is the intersection where preparation meets opportunity.

In my own personal experience I find that statement 2 feeds directly into statement 1. If you want to meet women you are NOT going to do it while mowing your own backyard. You have to get out there in a social environment, whether it be via computer or in real life, and meet people. You have to make some sort of effort. You have to prepare yourself. In seduction that means get into good shape, learn how to dress well, develop social skills, be on a self-improvement road and then get out there and put all this to good use. That is the discipline and effort that is required. You will not get the result you want without this type of effort.

It can be the case that opportunity itself is scarce depending on where you are and how you interact with the world...or it might be that your own vibe is actually off putting without you realizing it. You want to have a pleased/pleasant demeanor. If you have a resting scowl face you are not going to do as well as someone with a resting pleasant face. So be mindful of that.

But other than that you prepare yourself and keep and eye out for opportunity. And when opportunity shows up? Act on it. All opportunities have a shelf life.

 

[zekko]

Luck really only applies to the guys who marry their high school or college sweetheart through sexual pair bonding and high value personality at the core.

There is some luck in ending up in a favorable social circle as well.

Genetics is also luck, I would add.

Then there are the guys who say they get women by ignoring them.

Regarding guys who marry their high school sweetheart, I'm always amazed when I meet couples that dated in high school, got married right after, and are still together 40 years later. It's nice in a way, especially in this day and age of "conditional commitments". But it's hard to believe a lot of these people have only ever been with one person. Seems like they've missed out on some life experiences that way, but I'm sure they've gotten other things in return.

Another thing that always amazes me is when someone says they've never had their heart broken. I used to think that was a near universal experience, but apparently not. Maybe some people are red pill right out of the womb

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

They dont pull because they are attractive or know what theyre doing, they pull for a simple reason they keep going and going until they find a girl with standards low enough to accept being with them, that is if we're talking about average or unattractive guys try day game or hitting the club/bar ... if we'r talking about a hot guy with great style then yeah eh can probably pull at least 50% of the chicks he meets, if not bang them or make out then at least get a number and some text action.

It's better thrn most guys who cannot make it beyond AA. I've heard cucks even on this forum preaching their being alpha in their marriage, a government contract in which they swore away half their current and future earnings not to mention, handicapped their ability to ****.

 

[MatureDJ]

The hottest women by far live far out in of the country.

There, fixed it.

 

[nismo-4]

The whole game is a matter of luck!

What if the woman you're talking to is just looking for orbiters and attention? What if she just wants marriage? What if she just wants business contacts? Elite social club access?

It's all about the woman's interest and availability. Maybe you should have approached her on July 3rd instead of May 10th.

Also, she may be getting out of a relationship, already taken, chasing after Chad, Tyrone, Hiroshi, Enrique, Chang, Punji, etc. Maybe even one of them dumped her.

Consider the fact that she's always comparing you to her exes and other guys she's dating, second place still being first loser.

The other part of luck is the woman's needs and interest at the time you talk with her. Factor in the things you do and don't do. Also the things you say and don't say. Your voice could turn her off, your phone brand can too. Wear a color she doesn't like or unrecognizable brand name, you get rejected. Even owning a Xbox one and cheering for Alabama can cause you to lose a girl. So can your zodiac sign, your car color, your hair length, the stars in the sky, the airline you fly, hell you get the idea.

Alas, women do the choosing. Just like HR has control of who gets hired. There's only so much a guy can control. X-factors happen any given day, like the bf or husband shows up, or she just happens to be a big flirt who's married.

All we, as men can do is just make our moves and put our bid in. Ignoring won't increase a null IL, especially if she doesn't know you. Most of us on this board aren't super good looking and/or super rich. All we can do is try. Even in this #MeToo büll$hit world.

You miss all the shots you don't take.

Case closed.

 

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The whole game is a matter of luck!

What if the woman you're talking to is just looking for orbiters and attention? What if she just wants marriage? What if she just wants business contacts? Elite social club access?

It's all about the woman's interest and availability. Maybe you should have approached her on July 3rd instead of May 10th.

Also, she may be getting out of a relationship, already taken, chasing after Chad, Tyrone, Hiroshi, Enrique, Chang, Punji, etc. Maybe even one of them dumped her.

Consider the fact that she's always comparing you to her exes and other guys she's dating, second place still being first loser.

The other part of luck is the woman's needs and interest at the time you talk with her. Factor in the things you do and don't do. Also the things you say and don't say. Your voice could turn her off, your phone brand can too. Wear a color she doesn't like or unrecognizable brand name, you get rejected. Even owning a Xbox one and cheering for Alabama can cause you to lose a girl. So can your zodiac sign, your car color, your hair length, the stars in the sky, the airline you fly, hell you get the idea.

Alas, women do the choosing. Just like HR has control of who gets hired. There's only so much a guy can control. X-factors happen any given day, like the bf or husband shows up, or she just happens to be a big flirt who's married.

All we, as men can do is just make our moves and put our bid in. Ignoring won't increase a null IL, especially if she doesn't know you. Most of us on this board aren't super good looking and/or super rich. All we can do is try. Even in this #MeToo büll$hit world.

You miss all the shots you don't take.

Case closed.

Your summed it up in a pretty nice way .... you pretty much said what i wanted to say but a better way , we as men try as much as we can and do things that improve our chances of winning but subtle and ridicolous things can easily ruin the entire progress , its all about what she wants and if your not lucky enough she will usually want something that doeant benfit you , even if youre alpha af the most you can do is move on , cant force someone to do something .

 

[Red Legg]

There, fixed it.

I have been to 73 countries women outside the US did not interest me one fvckin bit and are ugly compared to Oklahoma women.More Oklahoma women have won the Miss America pageant more than any other state.European women smell like Sh!t (they don't shower much) or shave their underarms.

 

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I have been to 73 countries women outside the US did not interest me one fvckin bit and are ugly compared to Oklahoma women.More Oklahoma women have won the Miss America pageant more than any other state.European women smell like Sh!t (they don't shower much) or shave their underarms.

i meet a lot of american women and most of them didnt shave often and had arm hair and didnt put much effort into their looks, i've been to europe and they are not like you descrined them at all, no offense but thats a load of BS

 

[Red Legg]

i meet a lot of american women and most of them didnt shave often and had arm hair and didnt put much effort into their looks, i've been to europe and they are not like you descrined them at all, no offense but thats a load of BS

Oh yeah buddy... I was stationed in Germany for 8 years and I can tell you Europeans are no lover of soap or water,some have Americanized and shave now but they are not in the majority.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Oh yeah buddy... I was stationed in Germany for 8 years and I can tell you Europeans are no lover of soap or water,some have Americanized and shave now but they are not in the majority.

Come on, you’re telling me that French babe that smells like cigarette smoke and has an afro for armpit hair isn’t attractive?? Yummm!!

Jokes aside, I’m pretty sure Gillette has some stats about that. Germany has women who shave the least ~45% or something. The rest of Europe is around 85% if I recall correctly. You can google it though to check on it.

 

[Slide]

Advice from the old lady:

There's a couple of old sayings that I think apply here. They are both familiar.

1. You make your own luck.

2. "Luck" is the intersection where preparation meets opportunity.

In my own personal experience I find that statement 2 feeds directly into statement 1. If you want to meet women you are NOT going to do it while mowing your own backyard. You have to get out there in a social environment, whether it be via computer or in real life, and meet people. You have to make some sort of effort. You have to prepare yourself. In seduction that means get into good shape, learn how to dress well, develop social skills, be on a self-improvement road and then get out there and put all this to good use. That is the discipline and effort that is required. You will not get the result you want without this type of effort.

It can be the case that opportunity itself is scarce depending on where you are and how you interact with the world...or it might be that your own vibe is actually off putting without you realizing it. You want to have a pleased/pleasant demeanor. If you have a resting scowl face you are not going to do as well as someone with a resting pleasant face. So be mindful of that.

But other than that you prepare yourself and keep and eye out for opportunity. And when opportunity shows up? Act on it. All opportunities have a shelf life.

Ignoring girls has worked wonders for me , i laugh often and try to have a good time but i would say being laid back and not making an effort to get ghe girl has been working for me for a while now

 

[Red Legg]

Come on, you’re telling me that French babe that smells like cigarette smoke and has an afro for armpit hair isn’t attractive?? Yummm!!

Jokes aside, I’m pretty sure Gillette has some stats about that. Germany has women who shave the least ~45% or something. The rest of Europe is around 85% if I recall correctly. You can google it though to check on it.

HAHA All I know is I fvcked plenty of European babes when I was stationed in Duetschland and all I can say is it was hair city man..don't get me wrong some were hot but stunk.I will say this not as many fatties in Europe.I have partied in Paris,Rome,ect..and I would say under 50% shaved..they will keep you warm at night though.

 

[Glassguy]

"The more I practice, the luckier I get" -Gary Player

As with excelling at anything in life, it requires time, effort, self accountability and persistence. The reason everyone doesnt excel is not because they dont have the tools,its because they dont have the drive.

"Winning is not a once in a while thing. Its an all the time thing. Unfortunately, so is losing" - Vince Lambardi

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Ignoring girls has worked wonders for me , i laugh often and try to have a good time but i would say being laid back and not making an effort to get ghe girl has been working for me for a while now

Chasing has never worked for me.