MGTOW vs Incels

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In order to dig deeper for the truth of human psychology we must pile up the dirt. Humans in general have many shadowy aspects buried deep in the subconscious behavior. If a self described MGTOW post a video that reasonable explains why marriage is bad for men because of certain laws and provides sources of evidence and believable anecdotes, I have no problem trying to understand their point of view. There are glaring holes is dating, relationships and social interactions that are tied from a variety of things pushed on us since birth (TV, Music, Moral Relativism, Science, and Religion) When we are born the programming has already started and this is how we basically view life,hardly with out own unique or original thoughts or questions of why. Most of them time we are ashamed to to arrive in own own conclusions. When we do they get cemented in beliefs and harden in to dogmas. We tend to look for it whether we realize it or not to enforce out dogmas. This is the point in human psychology were we half to question or own beliefs and dogmas and release yourself from the rigid mental prisons we have locked yourself in.

This can happen with being honest with yourself, introspection, meditation or just hearing a person out and putting yourself in there shoes. I went through a bitter phase with women, MGTOW taught me a lot. The bitter, dogmatic channels I disagreed with I unsubscribed. The ones I felt were reasonable and stable and balance and usually took the middle road I kept.

I am who I am a good looking loner with sporadic social skills, I can be great, good or autistic when socializing. I am a very deep thinker and often look aloof and stumble when speaking. I second guess myself and sometimes fear I might say something to offend people. So I keep small talk to a bare minimum. I never liked relationships.....I'm suited for quick flings, and friendship. My views are very similar to "Who Dare Wins" I do what I want.....my inner happiness is more important. I want to live life, travel, bed many beautiful women, go sky diving, read, kayaking I just want to have a rich adventurous experience. Marriage and being tied down is not for me, I barely spoke to my family members when I was young, but they knew I loved them. Its just who I am, but if I change one day I am open to it
 

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Both concepts are different. I'm confused about "incel" because of the mass-shootings that have occurred and it's typically by white men who look down on Black women. I have nothing to do with any gun-totting or white-supremacy group. As far as non-white incels, I think the idea could have merits. I mean, most races of women would go with a white man, (i.e. Asian woman, travel to a foreign country to meet women since most whites have money to do so. Black women, etc....), etc.... Other people, such as Asian men, Indian men, or not Black, not White, face an uphill battle. I'd have to read other threads about this from ethnics on this board. Therefore, whether a white man can legitimately claim being incel without tarnishing that label by association with these mass shootings and associations with white supremacist websites is quite an issue altogether, or just dealing with college aged white women or one particular girl there is a crush on, is another issue. The last mass shooting is based on a white girl that rejected the shooter. He's incel too because he got rejected? Perhaps these issues may challenge if incel is even a valid concept, or if it's just another type of entitled WS gone amok, except if the incel is ethnic. Even Elliot Rogers rejected Black women and said they were from slaves. That kills everything right there.
 

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I was talking to these guys for a bit not too long ago at a lounge and one of them said something really strange when many of the other men where scouting and talking to the women. Heck, there's no point for me. I'm so unattractive that I get less a-s-s than a corpse. I thought that was a bit melodramatic, but I thought it was funny too in a dark comedic kind of way. Sigh.
 

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I'm going to buy some pheromones and or try my own pheromone-Dial soap if this is bothering me enough to care about it. I've tried it before, and have had interesting results.
 

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I'm going to buy some pheromones and or try my own pheromone-Dial soap if this is bothering me enough to care about it. I've tried it before, and have had interesting results.
Is there a particular brand we should look for .
 

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Is there a particular brand we should look for .
I can't recommend any at this time. I'd just play around with it. It may be worth a gamble for me to try some of it out. If I hit the jackpot I'll update this thread or PM you on it.
 
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