THE TRUTH ABOUT ATTRACTION.

[D.Savage]

Ok guys lets clear the air with this thread right here.

I do not believe in "Building attraction" theres no such thing, either shes likes you or doesnt. A girl knows if shes into you from the first 10 seconds of meeting you, before you even open your mouth shes already attracted or she is not. Think about it, remember that girl who you liked/had a crush on? Ok, what did she do to get you to like her so much? Right, she didnt do anything, there was just something that drawed you in. Well, its the same thing with women.

You dont talk to a girl and say "i like her conversation and her intelligence, i choose to be attracted to her" no, it doesnt work that way, you dont choose to be attracted to someone, its like a switch, you meet someone and boom theres a spark.
I do not try to get girls to like me, never have, im not trying to act in a attractive way to get her to like me, i just be normal and act like how i would act around anybody and either she likes me or she doesnt. Its that simple.

This is why guys who "try" to build attraction fail, or guys who try to act extra nice to get the girl to like them fail every single time, its not acting nice its the fact that she already doesnt like you! Guys, understand this, if something doesnt work with a girl its not something that you did or didnt do, she just wasnt attracted to you. I have some friends who beat themselves up when a girl rejects them and they actually think its there fault lol
You hear "maybe i didnt say the right thing" no fool! She just wasnt naturally attracted to you.

The key is to be naturally attractive.....
1.Looks
2.Swag
3.Coolness

Everything else is easy from there.
As a man you fall in 1 or 2 catagories with women, your either the guy who gets women naturally and effortlessly, or, your the guy who has to jump through hoops, spend tons of money, go on 3 or 4 dates ect with the hopes of getting her to "like you"

Guy A walks into a bar and sits down asks for a drink and focuses his eyes on the Football game on the TV, from his side view he notices a girl checking him out, he directs his eyes towards her and motions for her to come over to him. PAUSE, Now as you can see the girl was already attracted to him, she was drawn to him, by the way, i know ugly guys who pull this **** off alll the time so its deeper than just looks, its more of your auru and swag.

Guy B walks into a bar and sits down and instantly begins looking around for girls to talk to, the difference is hes not getting any approach invitations so he has to pretty much just grab his balls and do most of the work, hes going from girl to girl trying to "spit game" buying drinks, jumping through hoops, you see the difference?? Sure he might get a lay if he plays the numbers game but why do all that if you can just naturally attract women?

Now i cant teach someone how to be naturally attractive per se, but what you guys can instantly stop doing is blaiming yourselfs for missed opportunities with women, You didnt do anything wrong, the attraction just wasnt there. The guys who are not naturally attractive have to do tons of **** just to get the same results as a guy who didnt have to do anything.
When you can be around a girl and barely open your mouth and shes still into you thats says alot! The girl that flaked on you last tuesday? Not your fault, you didnt say the wrong thing on a date, its not because you didnt use enough "****y/funny" its becuase this particuly girl just wasnt into you.

Girls have told me in the past themselves that "i can tell if a guy knows hes a attractive guy(not just looks) and hes use to getting girls just by the way he acts around me" thats good news for everyone of you guys because that means you are capable of getting to the point of being naturally attractive just by how you carry yourself, believe your a attractive guy who girls usually end up liking, when you get rejected sometimes its like "well something must be wrong with her"
Lol, when a girl rejects me i assume its more of her than me because im assuming any girl in there right mind would like me, you must get to that point of self confidence and believing you are attractive man.

When this happens you will carry yourself differently around women, when you talk to a girl you will already be assuming shes going to like you which in turns causes you to act in a naturally attractive way, get it? YOU ARE THE **** GUYS! stop letting every little thing a girl does shake you up man, its pretty sad to see lol......

 

[skinnyguy]

The moral of the post is to keep lifting until you create attraction?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

So if your ass was fat as hail and a big belly and cheeks and she thought you was kinda decent looking but Fat!

And you get ripped with slab pecs and abs and your hot now then what?

Everyone has a physical prototype of what's physical attractive .

 

[sazc]

If she's a super sloot, she knows before she meets you that she's attracted. If she's an LTR girl it's going to take more time. Then there's everyone in the middle of the sine wave, between those two extremes

 

[D.Savage]

The moral of the post is to keep lifting until you create attraction?

Nah not really, im 25 years old and i way 135 pounds flat lol no lie, im scrawny as **** lol but my good looks make up for that i guess.

Its a mind thing, mind over matter, improve yourself until you are socially successfull(banging girls, popular, exciting social life) put yourself out there, once your socially successfull you will become naturally attractive because of how you carry yourself.

When your feeling good and confident do you or do you not carry yourself differently?? Right, and when you are feeling bad and self concious you also carry yourself a certain way right? Ok so the goal here is to get to a poing where your internally validated and confident to where girls can smell the ***** from the girl you bang the previous day lol

 

[Roober]

I have a couple problems with your arguments

First is that you are basing your importance on other people. A man needs status to get women? Or to be popular? Who cares about either of those? Being popular is for high school

Second is that you mentioned you are very attractive meaning you never really had to actually work like us averages Joe's have. You are clearly neglecting this detail. I would compare this to a white male trying to talk to a black person about racism.

Third is that your grammar and language suggest you just graduated high school, so anyone with an education will find it difficult to find your words credible.

And lastly, like your other threads, this is mostly a repeat of what is in the dj bible and book of pook in a much less eloquent tone, so what value does it provide?

 

[D.Savage]

Nope. Not true. I don’t know why men insist on parroting this incorrect assumption

It’s men who know right away within seconds if they’d bang a girl or not.

You can be superficially attractive to women and act like f@g and I guarantee she won’t be legit attracted to you beyond the surface.

Attraction is a little more dynamic and complex with women. Tons of guys fvck everything up with women by saying or doing stupid shlt during the courting process. The reverse is also true: you can be lacking in some areas and make up for it elsewhere enough to warrant a chicks genuine interest in you.

Enter game

So let me get this straight, you never seen a guy naturally draw women to him without him having to do anything? So if a nerdy lame looking guy who looks like he hasnt gotten laid in 4 years goes up to a HB6 and starts "spitting game" he has a chance now? Lol nope, she knows shes not attracted to him before he even decides to walk over to her.

The cool good looking swagged out guy walks into a room and every girls eyes are on him, girls are starting conversations with him ect thats a guy whos naturally attractive aka someone who can get attention and sex without doing anything to get it besides just be there.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It really depends. Yes, for the most part it is game over if initial raw attraction is not present.
However, some guys might become more attractive to women over time. Personality, social skills, money, status, and even looks are not always readily apparent. However, chasing someone who doesnt feel you right away is not the way to display this stuff.

"Chasing" effs you more than it helps! In 2018 women Chase.

 

[D.Savage]

It really depends. Yes, for the most part it is game over if initial raw attraction is not present.
However, some guys might become more attractive to women over time. Personality, social skills, money, status, and even looks are not always readily apparent. However, chasing someone who doesnt feel you right away is not the way to display this stuff.

Right, so which one would you rather be? The who gets raw instant attraction or the guy who has to work on a girl for weeks displaying his great personality and social skills? If theres no instant attraction then you will be jumping through hoops and wondering why "she never initiates contact first"

 

[mrgoodstuff]

So let me get this straight, you never seen a guy naturally draw women to him without him having to do anything? So if a nerdy lame looking guy who looks like he hasnt gotten laid in 4 years goes up to a HB6 and starts "spitting game" he has a chance now? Lol nope, she knows shes not attracted to him before he even decides to walk over to her.

The cool good looking swagged out guy walks into a room and every girls eyes are on him, girls are starting conversations with him ect thats a guy whos naturally attractive aka someone who can get attention and sex without doing anything to get it besides just be there.

So what could nerdy dude do to have a better shot of being able to stay?

Isn't getting pvssy critical to your swag and instantly makes you attractive to more hoez?

So sometime you gotta just get your dyck wet . Put up this check for a perfect LTR and phvck that fat bytch or that ugly chick who wants to give you some.

 

[D.Savage]

Listen up guys, dont get me wrong im not saying that if shes not instantly attracted to you then your done, what im saying is, you can either be the guy who instantly and naturally attracts women just with your swag and or charisma and draw them to you(trust me, things are much easier) or you can work on the girl jumping through hoops showing her how attractive you, which one do you want? Dont answer that because I know the answer.

 

[D.Savage]

So what could nerdy dude do to have a better shot of being able to stay?

Isn't getting pvssy critical to your swag and instantly makes you attractive to more hoez?

So sometime you gotta just get your dyck wet . Put up this check for a perfect LTR and phvck that fat bytch or that ugly chick who wants to give you some.

Your on the right track bro, getting ***** is definilty critical to your swag, thats exactly what im saying......

The first thing the nerds needs to do is stop being a nerd and make himself more attractive, you have to feel good about yourself to pull off that vibe that draws women in.
Hot girls are stuck up because of sooo many past positive experiences socially that she knows how cool and attractive she is, hence the reason she carries herself so well, its the same thing for a guy who knows hes the **** and the girls knows hes the **** because she can smell it on, i mean he carries himself like that for a reason right?

 

[Reykhel]

footnotes? have swag and charisma?

 

[D.Savage]

footnotes? have swag and charisma?

Yes, its all about how you carry yourself,
The goal is to become naturally attractive instead of using pick tactics and jumping through hoops

 

[ohrein]

Simply untrue. I've experienced it myself multiple times.

Firstly, attraction isn't binary. It's multivariate and it moves in waves over time. Therefore fundamentally, attraction as a mechanism allows for building and deconstructing.

Secondly, women find multiple traits attractive. Some of those traits are not immediately visible. Therefore, it's impossible to determine how attracted a woman will be to you instantly.

Immediate physical attraction is important. If you're unkempt, have weak body language, are fat, etc etc, yeah, women will probably not have enough attraction to be receptive to your other traits. If you're an athletic man who looks good, her immediate attraction will be high and she will have interest from the get go. If you're somewhere in the middle, like I am, you do not get immediate high interest very often. But I've watched women go from "I'm gonna friend zone this guy" face to, "Wow, who is this guy?" face in the space of ten minutes. I've also watched the opposite where women who are really into me lose attraction over certain things.

Like most things with people, you must avoid binary thinking. Over simplifying game is just an excuse not to work on yourself. Fight the urge.

 

[D.Savage]

Simply untrue. I've experienced it myself multiple times.

Firstly, attraction isn't binary. It's multivariate and it moves in waves over time. Therefore fundamentally, attraction as a mechanism allows for building and deconstructing.

Secondly, women find multiple traits attractive. Some of those traits are not immediately visible. Therefore, it's impossible to determine how attracted a woman will be to you instantly.

Immediate physical attraction is important. If you're unkempt, have weak body language, are fat, etc etc, yeah, women will probably not have enough attraction to be receptive to your other traits. If you're an athletic man who looks good, her immediate attraction will be high and she will have interest from the get go. If you're somewhere in the middle, like I am, you do not get immediate high interest very often. But I've watched women go from "I'm gonna friend zone this guy" face to, "Wow, who is this guy?" face in the space of ten minutes. I've also watched the opposite where women who are really into me lose attraction over certain things.

Like most things with people, you must avoid binary thinking. Over simplifying game is just an excuse not to work on yourself. Fight the urge.

Very good points......but when you have instant attraction alotta times they chase you and its much easier, you usually have the upper hand from the gate, when you have to build attraction, she has the upper hand(not all the time this is the case) but majority of the time since shes not already into you guess whos doing the chasing and jumping through hoops while trying to build up attraction?

 

[ohrein]

Very good points......but when you have instant attraction alotta times they chase you and its much easier, you usually have the upper hand from the gate, when you have to build attraction, she has the upper hand(not all the time this is the case) but majority of the time since shes not already into you guess whos doing the chasing and jumping through hoops while trying to build up attraction?

Yeah, it's super easy when women have high interest and honestly that's all I bother with these days cos I got sh1t to do, y'all. But the skills you acquire from gaming moderate interest women are invaluable.

Average guys always have to do some chasing at the start. Even super high interest feminine women are passive early on. They lack self confidence and want men to lead. That script only flips after enough comfort has been built. I can't really remember a time a woman has actively chased me based only on my appearance, in fact it may never has happened. Yet I have experienced the absolute highest possible interest after building attraction. (Women driving two hours to my house to hook up, sending me gifts, paying for everything etc etc). Maybe super attractive guys don't need to put in any work but that's never been my experience and I do fine with women these days.

 

[skinnyguy]

If she's a super sloot, she knows before she meets you that she's attracted. If she's an LTR girl it's going to take more time. Then there's everyone in the middle of the sine wave, between those two extremes

Do LTR women even exist anymore?

All the ones I see want a quick fling

 

[captain55]

Ok guys lets clear the air with this thread right here.

I do not believe in "Building attraction" theres no such thing, either shes likes you or doesnt. A girl knows if shes into you from the first 10 seconds of meeting you, before you even open your mouth shes already attracted or she is not. Think about it, remember that girl who you liked/had a crush on? Ok, what did she do to get you to like her so much? Right, she didnt do anything, there was just something that drawed you in. Well, its the same thing with women.

You dont talk to a girl and say "i like her conversation and her intelligence, i choose to be attracted to her" no, it doesnt work that way, you dont choose to be attracted to someone, its like a switch, you meet someone and boom theres a spark.
I do not try to get girls to like me, never have, im not trying to act in a attractive way to get her to like me, i just be normal and act like how i would act around anybody and either she likes me or she doesnt. Its that simple.

This is why guys who "try" to build attraction fail, or guys who try to act extra nice to get the girl to like them fail every single time, its not acting nice its the fact that she already doesnt like you! Guys, understand this, if something doesnt work with a girl its not something that you did or didnt do, she just wasnt attracted to you. I have some friends who beat themselves up when a girl rejects them and they actually think its there fault lol
You hear "maybe i didnt say the right thing" no fool! She just wasnt naturally attracted to you.

The key is to be naturally attractive.....
1.Looks
2.Swag
3.Coolness

Everything else is easy from there.
As a man you fall in 1 or 2 catagories with women, your either the guy who gets women naturally and effortlessly, or, your the guy who has to jump through hoops, spend tons of money, go on 3 or 4 dates ect with the hopes of getting her to "like you"

Guy A walks into a bar and sits down asks for a drink and focuses his eyes on the Football game on the TV, from his side view he notices a girl checking him out, he directs his eyes towards her and motions for her to come over to him. PAUSE, Now as you can see the girl was already attracted to him, she was drawn to him, by the way, i know ugly guys who pull this **** off alll the time so its deeper than just looks, its more of your auru and swag.

Guy B walks into a bar and sits down and instantly begins looking around for girls to talk to, the difference is hes not getting any approach invitations so he has to pretty much just grab his balls and do most of the work, hes going from girl to girl trying to "spit game" buying drinks, jumping through hoops, you see the difference?? Sure he might get a lay if he plays the numbers game but why do all that if you can just naturally attract women?

Now i cant teach someone how to be naturally attractive per se, but what you guys can instantly stop doing is blaiming yourselfs for missed opportunities with women, You didnt do anything wrong, the attraction just wasnt there. The guys who are not naturally attractive have to do tons of **** just to get the same results as a guy who didnt have to do anything.
When you can be around a girl and barely open your mouth and shes still into you thats says alot! The girl that flaked on you last tuesday? Not your fault, you didnt say the wrong thing on a date, its not because you didnt use enough "****y/funny" its becuase this particuly girl just wasnt into you.

Girls have told me in the past themselves that "i can tell if a guy knows hes a attractive guy(not just looks) and hes use to getting girls just by the way he acts around me" thats good news for everyone of you guys because that means you are capable of getting to the point of being naturally attractive just by how you carry yourself, believe your a attractive guy who girls usually end up liking, when you get rejected sometimes its like "well something must be wrong with her"
Lol, when a girl rejects me i assume its more of her than me because im assuming any girl in there right mind would like me, you must get to that point of self confidence and believing you are attractive man.

When this happens you will carry yourself differently around women, when you talk to a girl you will already be assuming shes going to like you which in turns causes you to act in a naturally attractive way, get it? YOU ARE THE **** GUYS! stop letting every little thing a girl does shake you up man, its pretty sad to see lol......

Absolute horse**** post most likely by a guy that has never gamed a woman. If this were true than guys that are 5’s would never bang 8’s and 9’s. Do you think these women found these guys initially attractive?

You’ve never had a woman thrown herself at you and suddenly lose interest because of something you said? Your attractiveness goes up or down based on what you say, how you act, how you dress, how confident you are. Ive banged women that were not “initially attracted to me” within the first ten seconds

 

[D.Savage]

Absolute horse**** post most likely by a guy that has never gamed a woman. If this were true than guys that are 5’s would never bang 8’s and 9’s. Do you think these women found these guys initially attractive?

You’ve never had a woman thrown herself at you and suddenly lose interest because of something you said? Your attractiveness goes up or down based on what you say, how you act, how you dress, how confident you are. Ive banged women that were not “initially attracted to me” within the first ten seconds

You need to get laid......

And you right, i dont run game lol i dont have to.......again, who cares about building attraction, im talking about having initial attraction so guys wont have to kiss ass and chase girls and jump through hoops like you have to just to laid lol