The sickness of the women in today's world

[ohrein]

I tried red pilling them, but they are so broken they won't listen. Heck, I wont deny I wouldn't have listened either when I was in their shoes.

Yeah, I don't think I've red pilled a guy successfully in real life. Had one who showed some promise but got some success and decided I was over-thinking it. I think he'll be back at some point, he's very young so.

I was them up until a year ago after a BPD broke me down to my very core. Im talking broke me the phuk down to the point I almost took my own life over some stupid alcoholic, coke wh0re! I didn't have a lot of experience with women, so I was the perfect target for her to destroy. I'm a completely different man now. Never thought I would be where I am today. While I have a STD and PTSD from that experience, I am grateful for who I have become. I've grown and learned more about life and myself in the past year than I have in 10.

Good job, man. I've been to rock bottom. It's hard to get out so I have respect for anyone who can make that crawl out and use it as fuel for the fire.

Like you, I am at the point in my life I'd rather be alone then stay with a toxic chick/people. You are right in not falling for that trap ever again. I was tested by two women who had personalty disorders months after my split. The first one broke me more than I already was, but I was able to remove myself before it escalated. I did chase her a couple times but quickly learned to walk away and stay NC. The other one was when I was fully awaken (if thats what you want to call it). I put her in her place, didn't take her ch!t, banged her, then dumped her after she "tried" controlling me and never once contacted her again.

My friends have all noticed my change and are fascinated at my knowledge in human behavior. Some like it, some don't. I've become an a$$hole who calls anyone out on their bs behavior. One of my girlfriends is bpd and the other girl is codependent. The bpd has latched onto the codependent girl like cancer. So much so the codependent girls relationships all fail cause the bpd chick is always interfering. So you cant just date one, its like dating both.

The other night at a bar, her and I were talking, then suddenly the bpd chick interrupts our conversation being extremely rude. The CD chick stood up for herself in a cowardly way, then put her head down like she was submitting. So I called that bpd out on her rude a$$ behavior. Then later that night the bpd chick says she doesn't like who I have become, how I keep calling her out. So I told her "you want me to be a pu$$y who says yes to everything, who doesn't call you out on your rude behavior, who will let you walk all over me" "well thats not who I am so deal with it". The codependent chick I could tell was getting happy with me calling her out. Later that night we locked lips. Weird thing is, Im still attracted to crazy and I want to phuk the bpd chicks brains out, then dump her like the bag of trash she is. Im trying not to attract crazy, but at least it feels amazing being able to spot them now, and most importantly being in control of my world.

Sounds like you still have a foot into that world. I am convinced hardcore alpha mentality only attracts damaged women. It's avoidant/anxious attachment styles feeding off each others triggers in a weird loop. It sounds like you're doing okay now but if things become a problem I'd recommend rethinking both your approach to dating but more importantly, learning to screen women and only get involved with more stable women. Life is much more pleasant without the drama. But that's a personal choice. I wouldn't even bang crazy anymore, even though they are the best in bed, it's just not worth it in the long run.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

"They're worried they wont find a hotter chick or any chick to settle down with". .

A thread could equally be started titled 'The Sickness of the Men in the World'. The statement above is their mental condition - looking for a 'hot' woman to settle down with instead of one that is worthy of that commitment, one with some character.

I think the 'pornographication' of our culture has gone a long way toward creating a state of mind where men simply are not in control of their impulses. The consumer mentality that we are so critical of toward women who constantly shop, can be said of us who are constantly chasing after 'hot' women. From a rational perspective, most of these women are not attractive at all.

 

[ohrein]

A thread could equally be started titled 'The Sickness of the Men in the World'. The statement above is their mental condition - looking for a 'hot' woman to settle down with instead of one that is worthy of that commitment, one with some character.

I think the 'pornographication' of our culture has gone a long way toward creating a state of mind where men simply are not in control of their impulses. The consumer mentality that we are so critical of toward women who constantly shop, can be said of us who are constantly chasing after 'hot' women. From a rational perspective, most of these women are not attractive at all.

It's nice to see someone concerned with self reflection. It's far more important to look inwardly and fix yourself before you judge the rest of the world.

 

[Roober]

This non-committed environment that everybody lives in has likely created a large increase in the number of sexual partners men and women experiences. Are you going to tell me that is a good thing too?

I bolded the edit because they have to be fvcking someone. If it means less broken families, less single moms, and more fvcking for everyone. I would certainly say that's a good thing. Men with a high partner count have just as many issues as women with a high partner count; the difference is that they won't admit it.

Come on Howie. It sounds like your advocating for less sex and more fvcked up children? If a relationship doesn't work, nobody should have to subject themselves to a bad fit. That's like sticking with a job because you have been there so long and are too afraid to try something new.

 

[Roober]

The point is women and men often make short-sided decisions and throw away good relationships because they fail to see the big picture. The grass isn't always greener. Most of the time you simply trade one set of issues for another! I know 3 women in my past who now live with the regret from their short sided thinking.

You should not leave a relationship you are unhappy with before trying to resolve the issues. We seem to live in a society where most prefer to throw away what they have instead of attempting to resolve/fix any issues. Heaven forbid they have to look at themselves in the mirror. Afterall, the next best deal is just a message away these days!

The smart people are beginning to see the error's of these ways and how it effects men and women's ability to bond in the future.

The relationship ends when the bad things outweigh the good. The mistake of this argument comes with the assumption that the relationship was all rainbows and sunshine.

Let me ask, is a man that peacocks hiding his insecurity? How about a woman who dresses overly sexy? Or a peer that puts another down in front of friends? Or even when someone tries to brag about theirmoney, status, or some other facet of their life? A secure human being does not need to boast about his/her achievements because they speak for themselves.

So why would you think this basic human behavior doesn't apply to a posterboard relationship on Facebook or social media? I'm sorry, but of you brag about your relationship on social media, you are trying to convince yourself that everything is okay.

 

[R.U.G.]

Things were better before the numerous choices for both men and women. Equally, both genders are looking to score (and possibly tie down) with someone who is a decent person, as best looking as possible and is relatively stable. The problem is, many rather not work through the issues or just be happy finding that one person. They now think that the grass is greener on the other side. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. However, 9 times out of 10, it isn't and you cannot put the genie back in the bottle. Also, people do not change and usually repeat their mistakes over and over again until they find the cause of their issues on their end. That cause is usually that person looking at you in the mirror.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

We have to think about our needs as men . This guy was a little harsh in his language, but it drives the point home.

It's about the basic Alpha male mindset .

https://m.y0utube.com/watch?v=34hl3V5TCE0

Man needs to evolve.

Next set @ not in the mood, fat, low libido, single mom, baby rabies, cratered smv etc

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Things were better before the numerous choices for both men and women. Equally, both genders are looking to score (and possibly tie down) with someone who is a decent person, as best looking as possible and is relatively stable. The problem is, many rather not work through the issues or just be happy finding that one person. They now think that the grass is greener on the other side. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. However, 9 times out of 10, it isn't and you cannot put the genie back in the bottle. Also, people do not change and usually repeat their mistakes over and over again until they find the cause of their issues on their end. That cause is usually that person looking at you in the mirror.

It's evident of female hyoergamy. Burn twenties chasing Chad's. Date down once best years are done. Cucks be throwing resources at single moms and Chad's booty call. It's pathetic. They get what they deserve.

 

[Trump]

but she broke it off cause "she didn't feel it anymore". Same sh1t my ex pulled about two years ago. We got a bunch of ladies who got no advice and do not care about what they lose, they just go on, bagagge themselves up during their early to mid twenties with relationships that they mostly break for no solid reason whatsoever.

If you were with a women and you didn’t “feel it anymore”, would you stay with her forever?

 

[lizardking82]

While I agree with @Roober that posting constantly on social media is not a good sign in general, I personally posted just 1 pic of me and my ex and it still ended in 2 years. I know other people who post nothing and still break up in 1 or 2 years. It's the trend. People, in general do not want to work on things anymore and it's sad that human relationships have become like products that we take, we use and we toss to the side when we think they're a bit old and when the new products have arrived.

Not complaining, just discussing.

@Trump no, but I would try and work out why I don't "feel for her anymore" and if it's sth that cannot be worked out, I would leave. Most probably, I would find the same sh1t happening all over again with someone else and a lot of times people try and cut relationships thinking they are solving the "problem" and the problem is themselves and they never try to solve that.

 

[Reykhel]

I'm not angry, just calling it how I see it.

He's throwing at you the "charge of irascibility", instead of dealing with what you said he'll deflect with accusations of anger. This is where you're supposed to go on the defensive. Devious little snake in the grass, this one.

Thank you for being sarcastic, man. I will continue my attempts to talk to you like a grown up person, but I respect your sarcasm, though.

@Macaframalama he's dad projecting onto you now. Dad must have spoke down to him and he felt he was being spoken to like a child. He probably was a child but knowing this poster's arrogance, probably felt dad "should" be speaking to him like an adult.

Here's a 24 year old kid saying to you, "God that sarcasm is so beneath me, nonetheless, I shall continue to speak to you and attempt to engage you like an adult" Such pomp and pretentiousness!!

It's nice to see someone concerned with self reflection. It's far more important to look inwardly and fix yourself before you judge the rest of the world

Exactly. The op would do better to repair his own inner demons and overcome his ego which is showing signs of extreme hubris than worrying and fretting like a little girl of things that are outside his circle of control. He'd do well to going to work, building a secure masculine inner game, instead of this girly boy lamentations and bitterness.

The more you complain about feminism and modern women, the more alike them you are without even realizing it.

Precisely. The op does sound exactly like a an embittered and resentful feminist. I bet he pisses sitting down.

People, in general do not want to work on things anymore

The problem with any statements that start with "people in general...." is that it reveals not only black and white thinking, but also a very narrow perspective and world view.

It's evident that this kid has never been outside his lonely village somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Albania. What would Trump say? ****ehole country.

 

[lizardking82]

Some guys here are really delusional. Like, do you want people to pretend that every single thing is their own responsability and the sorrounding factors play no role whatsoever? What is wrong with some guys here?

I am not describing some fantasy world here. I am describing a world we all live in, whether be in it Albania or Germany or USA. The current societal system in use is women oriented and it does not favour men. It is tough for men. And don't give me all that "well, if you;re focusing on self improvement then that is the path towards bla bla". You can focus on self improvement all you want, when you go out there to deal with women of our times, you will find self entitled brats who have no guidance from their fathers/brothers and go out into the world thinking they are owed everything from every guy they meet and god forbid the relationship might get a bit boring after a year or two, we shall leave it right away since we can't have boring things in our lives, can't we? Of course not, in this new age of new things just around the corner, people will jump onto new relationships until they someday understand that all these relationships affect them and their mindset. Whose fault is it? Both men's and women's, more men's. But to say that we should not dare complain...lighten up, guys. Sometimes one feels like complaining about ****. Life is not all rainbows and sunshine. Sometimes you have a ****ty day and on top of that, you hear ****ty things happening around you and complain. I don't come here complaining most of the time. I rarely complain. And even this is not full complaining, just a recall to guys to know that before they go into relationships, the chances are sky high it will end in 1 or 2 years. There are lots of guys here who want to have LTRs. It is not the world of LTRs. It is the world of consumerism. Some people here will debate anything they want, but the point.

Should you go into dealing with women? I do it everyday. I don;t let the surroundings affect me to the point I don't deal with them. I deal with them, I write poetries about some of them, I take paid and free pics of them and they are my main client basis when shooting. However, they are just running around like brainless chickens without any type of guidance and that has to be said.

 

[lizardking82]

Isn't it bizarre? They think this site is all men trying to absolve themselves of personal responsibility when it's largely the exact opposite. If I didn't see so many good men getting run over I would never blame something as abstract as "the market" but I do see that, and experienced that even when I did massive self improvement personally. I dont have the weird psychological compulsion to white Knight and blame other men(projection).

Meaning if I state reality as it is, I am bitching about it. Matter of perception. They see it as bitching, I see it as a sign to other, more naive people to be careful of relationships nowadays. I don't just preach this, I live it, too. Two years, no relationship although I have several women trying to lock me down into one, but they all show their ****ty character in a couple of months, if they even manage to last that long, that is.

That is the reason why I indirectly test all these women by talking about what matters to me personally regarding a relationship. Are you a person that is "fascinated by the new and exciting things"? No, thank you. Might bang sometimes, but you ain't gettin' anywhere near to being my main emotional investment. You a person that thinks "Things don't need to be worked out, when you don't feel it, you don't"? No, thank you, you're still 16 years old, I prefer having relationships with mature people, not people who wanna conform to liberalistic and stupid ideologies of "spiritual freedom and the right to choose". Makes me sick to my stomach. And it's not enough that women say this sh1t, we have guys even here kinda teaching it, which makes me even more sick to my stomach.

 

[Macaframalama]

Meaning if I state reality as it is, I am bitching about it. Matter of perception. They see it as bitching, I see it as a sign to other, more naive people to be careful of relationships nowadays. I don't just preach this, I live it, too. Two years, no relationship although I have several women trying to lock me down into one, but they all show their ****ty character in a couple of months, if they even manage to last that long, that is.

That is the reason why I indirectly test all these women by talking about what matters to me personally regarding a relationship. Are you a person that is "fascinated by the new and exciting things"? No, thank you. Might bang sometimes, but you ain't gettin' anywhere near to being my main emotional investment. You a person that thinks "Things don't need to be worked out, when you don't feel it, you don't"? No, thank you, you're still 16 years old, I prefer having relationships with mature people, not people who wanna conform to liberalistic and stupid ideologies of "spiritual freedom and the right to choose". Makes me sick to my stomach. And it's not enough that women say this sh1t, we have guys even here kinda teaching it, which makes me even more sick to my stomach.

Cry us all a handful puss. People will only change, when they want to change. As optimistic as you would like to remain, it just isn't the way it works. Generally, If she's willing to deal, then let's deal, but if she's holding herself back, I'm not sticking around wasting time. It's only a matter of time, before she starts holding me back. You don't know the specifics of your friends relationship, so don't act like you do.

 

[The Duke]

I bolded the edit because they have to be fvcking someone. If it means less broken families, less single moms, and more fvcking for everyone. I would certainly say that's a good thing. Men with a high partner count have just as many issues as women with a high partner count; the difference is that they won't admit it.

Come on Howie. It sounds like your advocating for less sex and more fvcked up children? If a relationship doesn't work, nobody should have to subject themselves to a bad fit. That's like sticking with a job because you have been there so long and are too afraid to try something new.

I definitely support less broken families and less single mommies and if it results in less sex amongst people then so be it. I see tremendous value in strong family units and am a product of one. No where did I say I advocate more fuhked up children or that couples who cant resolve their issues should stay together. Make better choices to start with, stop running, and learn how to sort your issues out! Too many people want the quick fix and run from their problems.

I disagree that men with high partner counts have as many issues as women with high partner counts. Man was designed since the beginning of time to spread his seed, woman was not. Its a very common belief on this forum that a guy looking for long term success with women should only consider women with low partner counts, I guess you don't subscribe to that or maybe you don't understand. I've been around a lot of women and the ones with the highest partner counts have more self esteem issues and more baggage than those with less. They internalize all the failed relationships they ever had.

Women have sex to fill emotional needs. Men have sex for physical pleasure. A woman will struggle to separate emotions from pleasure and this leads to difficulty bonding over time. Its the whole premise of why they are more selective on who they have sex with vs. a guy.

How many years have you been in the dating game and played in the streets? 2-3yrs since your divorce right? How many women have you been with? Its a damn free for all out there right now. Women are acting like dudes and its disgusting.

 

[Roober]

While I agree with @Roober that posting constantly on social media is not a good sign in general, I personally posted just 1 pic of me and my ex and it still ended in 2 years. I know other people who post nothing and still break up in 1 or 2 years. It's the trend. People, in general do not want to work on things anymore and it's sad that human relationships have become like products that we take, we use and we toss to the side when we think they're a bit old and when the new products have arrived.

Not complaining, just discussing.

@Trump no, but I would try and work out why I don't "feel for her anymore" and if it's sth that cannot be worked out, I would leave. Most probably, I would find the same sh1t happening all over again with someone else and a lot of times people try and cut relationships thinking they are solving the "problem" and the problem is themselves and they never try to solve that.

1 or 2 years is not just tossing things aside, that is a significant amount of time to commit to one person. Take out adolescence and you only have about 60 of those left. It is the time when the honeymoon endorphins fade and reality starts to set in, often a reality that one partner does not see in their future. It seems almost like the perfect opportunity to say "well, we tried, and this doesn't work any more"

When a woman says, "I just dont feel it" or something along those lines, that is huge. There is an enormous amount of issues going on when a woman states that. I am sure some of the women here could chime in on this.

To use my situation with my ex as an example, I was needy, sex was mediocre even though i thought it was good, I pedestals the fvck out of her, we had wildly different values and interests. I didn't understand it at the time as everything felt so perfect, but in reality, I was doing so much wrong. This is probably very similar to your male friend.

If she doesn't crave his time and attention, then he needs to identify where he is failing.

 

[ohrein]

Interesting theoey

Here's some basic reading. You can dig far further into it with the actual psychological studies on attachment styles. This is just a blog post but I think it does a reasonable job of the concept.

https://aloftyexistence.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/anxious-avoidant-trap/

Here's a more psych based overview of attachment and how childhood relationships can alter your ability to have healthy relationships.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...-here-go-away-the-dynamics-fearful-attachment

 

[ohrein]

You a person that thinks "Things don't need to be worked out, when you don't feel it, you don't"?

Massive red flag. I ask this question on a first date. "What do you think love is after the honeymoon phase of chemicals wears off?". It's actually interesting to talk about this stuff on a first date, but it's also reconnaissance.

 

[stovepipe]

Massive red flag. I ask this question on a first date. "What do you think love is after the honeymoon phase of chemicals wears off?". It's actually interesting to talk about this stuff on a first date, but it's also reconnaissance.

Interesting question that I will have ask one day. Now I'm thinking about how I would respond.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Massive red flag. I ask this question on a first date. "What do you think love is after the honeymoon phase of chemicals wears off?". It's actually interesting to talk about this stuff on a first date, but it's also reconnaissance.

If they actually cared for that person and loved them, that's the actual love underneath the infatuation.