The sickness of the women in today's world

[Poonani Maker]

That's why it's important to invest less emotionally than the women you get involved with in dating, relationships, marriage.

You literally have to not give a fuk whether she is with you or not and you must project this to her at all times even if you do. The second a woman thinks you can't live without her she will begin to lose attraction. And if you sense a woman begin to pull away emotionally and detach then do not try to turn it around and chase, end it immediately and ruthlessly. She'll respect you for it in the long run and you maintain self dignity.

So I guess women want all us men to treat them like this then

 

[Macaframalama]

The chemistry? Common, man. They play with this word as they wish. Chemistry is not meant to be there for 2 or 3 years. Chemistry, "love", is the natural hormonal spike you get in order to produce babies. We're supposed to be further that. Or do we just drop everything when it's not "shiny and new" anymore? I mean, these people are heading for self destruction. I know this girl personally, she had a failed relationship from around 19 to 21 years, broke it off. Then this guy, been together for about two years, she's now 24/25. She can only have one more "try" at another relationship and then she's in her late twenties, SMV is going down rapidly. These women are just outta control and have no idea what they're doing.

You don't just drop a 2 year relationship, in my opinion. But they're lazy as ****. People are not fun and at their best all the time. Whichever partner might be going through a hard time and what do you do, leave them right away? Yeah, what a good way of building meaningful relationships in life.

People change, people move at a different pace, goals change, people grow apathetic and downright lazy. There are literally a million reasons why someone could no longer see their significant is a right fit for them. People have been falling in and out of love long before any of us were here and will be falling in and out of love long after we're gone. More power to individuals of both sexes, that are level headed enough to find a right fit for themselves.

 

[Macaframalama]

a context where women can afford to randomly end any relationship at any time for any reason because they have unequal bargaining power in the market.

Pfft, and men can't?

Yes, men with equal bargaining power can do this too of course, but that is usually not the case.

Then, I would say to these men, "level up". Too many "men" walking around emasculated, powerless and some downright entitled, then want to shame everyone else for taking power over their own life circumstances.

 

[lizardking82]

People change, people move at a different pace, goals change, people grow apathetic and downright lazy. There are literally a million reasons why someone could no longer see their significant is a right fit for them. People have been falling in and out of love long before any of us were here and will be falling in and out of love long after we're gone. More power to individuals of both sexes, that are level headed enough to find a right fit for themselves.

Level headed enough to find a right fit for themselves? People settle down in the end and settling down is not "finding the right fit", it's accepting the best fit you're able to attract when your sell by date is approaching. There are very few women who "find the right fit" and even those get lucky since women don't know what kinda fit is right for them. They most probably have the right fit in their hands at some point in their early twenties, but "it doesn't feel like the right fit" or "I don't feel the same anymore, I think I need to put in a lot of work into this and sorry...I liked you when things were good...but now not anymore, I gotta go find someone who is the right fit".

We're better than them. We have to be if we want to get them. They need to have a vagina to get us, you understand the difference? They are entitled by nature and now their nature has been give more power and it's on full display and this is what you get. They have more decisive power and when they have that, they leave and keep on looking for their next tall, pretty boy or bad boy to have an adventure with. Men always had this power and no matter what, most men did not divorce or leave their women. We are used to power, they're not. They're mishandling it and the consequences are showing, these "men" you talk about, why do you think they exist? LOL

 

[Macaframalama]

Level headed enough to find a right fit for themselves? People settle down in the end and settling down is not "finding the right fit", it's accepting the best fit you're able to attract when your sell by date is approaching. There are very few women who "find the right fit" and even those get lucky since women don't know what kinda fit is right for them. They most probably have the right fit in their hands at some point in their early twenties, but "it doesn't feel like the right fit" or "I don't feel the same anymore, I think I need to put in a lot of work into this and sorry...I liked you when things were good...but now not anymore, I gotta go find someone who is the right fit".

We're better than them. We have to be if we want to get them. They need to have a vagina to get us, you understand the difference? They are entitled by nature and now their nature has been give more power and it's on full display and this is what you get. They have more decisive power and when they have that, they leave and keep on looking for their next tall, pretty boy or bad boy to have an adventure with. Men always had this power and no matter what, most men did not divorce or leave their women. We are used to power, they're not. They're mishandling it and the consequences are showing, these "men" you talk about, why do you think they exist? LOL

I give zero fvcks about all that horse chit nonsense and you shouldn't either. They are doing what they feel like is right for them and you should too. Freedom of choice and will come at a price. Grow a pair and quit getting shook over every little thing. All your posts read like the same ol "Oh my God, the sky is falling!!!", then you turn around and try to gaslight every other poster that shares a little common sense with you by telling them they're being the negative one.

these "men" you talk about, why do you think they exist?

Because, they are spineless, weak and lazy.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Level headed enough to find a right fit for themselves? People settle down in the end and settling down is not "finding the right fit", it's accepting the best fit you're able to attract when your sell by date is approaching. There are very few women who "find the right fit" and even those get lucky since women don't know what kinda fit is right for them. They most probably have the right fit in their hands at some point in their early twenties, but "it doesn't feel like the right fit" or "I don't feel the same anymore, I think I need to put in a lot of work into this and sorry...I liked you when things were good...but now not anymore, I gotta go find someone who is the right fit".

We're better than them. We have to be if we want to get them. They need to have a vagina to get us, you understand the difference? They are entitled by nature and now their nature has been give more power and it's on full display and this is what you get. They have more decisive power and when they have that, they leave and keep on looking for their next tall, pretty boy or bad boy to have an adventure with. Men always had this power and no matter what, most men did not divorce or leave their women. We are used to power, they're not. They're mishandling it and the consequences are showing, these "men" you talk about, why do you think they exist? LOL

The problem is individualism. Human nature is assumed to consist of separate self-contained egos... atomistically, like the fundamental building blocks of the universe. This mechanistic view is mistaken. The reality is we unfold and make ourselves creatively [or should]. The correct metaphor should be biology. With this view in mind, it is conceivable for two people to grow together [though a moral 'atmosphere' is required]. Indeed, for the majority, short of those attaining to monk status, this might be the very condition for their greater social development.

 

[CrashOverRide]

There's valid points on both sides here. We live in a throw away society and are taught to not "settle". The problem is that it seems a lot of women don't realize that nothing is magical like the movies and that no perfect life or relationship exists. It's unfortunately very naive but too many of them are seeking this. If we want to be with someone for the long haul we all have to "settle" to a degree.

 

[Roober]

Relationships have beginnings and sometimes endings, often endings considering that people are getting married later in life. However, they are also making better decisions because the divorce rate is dropping as well. Therefore, taking the facts, lower divorce rate and getting married later means there will be more relationships that end. And this is a good thing.

This means less divorces and less single parents, I think we both can agree those are good things. When relationships dont work, they can be ended by either party, it doesn't make anyone at fault, it just means it wasn't a good fit. Should anyone have to stay with a sinking ship? I certainly wouldnt.

So when a man no longer lights his womans fire and she says, "I am not feeling it any more", it is his fault. I am willing to bet he failed on so many levels. If he hadn't, he would have ended the relationship, not her.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

There's valid points on both sides here. We live in a throw away society and are taught to not "settle". The problem is that it seems a lot of women don't realize that nothing is magical like the movies and that no perfect life or relationship exists. It's unfortunately very naive but too many of them are seeking this. If we want to be with someone for the long haul we all have to "settle" to a degree.

A real relationship is made of two IMPERFECT PEOPLE who actually care about each other. They grow together and make each other a priority.

Folks are missing out on this nowadays, everyone wants to be the star in their OWN show.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Consumerism finally cannibalizes itself. Asian and Africa will probably take over the world... that is if Trump doesn't blow it up first.

 

[Reykhel]

I give zero fvcks about all that horse chit nonsense and you shouldn't either. They are doing what they feel like is right for them and you should too. Freedom of choice and will come at a price. Grow a pair and quit getting shook over every little thing. All your posts read like the same ol "Oh my God, the sky is falling!!!", then you turn around and try to gaslight every other poster that shares a little common sense with you by telling them they're being the negative one.

Spot on.

Let's look at the title of his thread "the sickness of the women in today's world" Doesn't exactly come across as the most positive or joyous thread really does it? Then he receives some responses that don't exactly agree with him and his response is to say such things as:

1) you want your "opinion" to offend (notice how he puts opinion in inverted commas. One can translate that as a little attempted passive aggressive dig. An attempted put down of the disagreement he received. A sign of disdain. Contempt. Now we have some congruency with the thread)

Really? Translation: he is offended by my opinion and any other opinion that maybe different than his. Personally, I like to dig a little deeper than the surface question and so often it's never really about the surface question. Sometimes we dig a little deeper and there's gold to be found, gold used for growth. Anyway, I just couldn't imagine having a beer in a beer garden with such an apathetic and sensitive young boy. Imagine, he's giving you his theory on women and you give him your response and he says back to you "dude, I think you should be more positive when you're responding to me so that I can understand me better. And I know you're trying to offend me". Son, spend some time mixing with other males. Being a loner and an introvert is turning you anti social and over sensitive.


2) you could make your posts more positive so that they can be better understood (note: this was written in poorly constructed English. I took the liberty of correcting the awful grammar instead of confusing the matter)
So this where he reveals his disingenuous nature. Granted it may not be by design but rather a stunt in his growth and a bruised and hurt ego. Again he creates a thread entitled "the sickness of women" and he thinks others could be more positive with their responses. The lack of congruency is palpable.

Granted it's interesting to note that he wants me posts to be more positive so that he can understand them better. Ok maybe there is some honesty being revealed. Non native English speaker.


3) please remove any literary devices from your posts (the two examples that he seemed to have difficulty with and made a special requests that I remove them were irony and sarcasm) This is a poster who takes everything at face value. Everything has to be literal. Some other poster had to reply to him in a thread the other day "brother, that was a joke" as he took the clear tongue in cheek joke as literal. He completely missed the point of my second reply to him, took it literal, got offended by it, got defensive and tried to attack back. (hint: it contained a literary device)

Again, trying to understand the poster and help him, we can realize and understand:
1) the guy is a non-native speaker (writer) of English. Many of them come here and to other sites and blogs with the main intention of improving their English.
2) the guy's level is around B2. it can sometimes appear above that in writing but it's clear he has no verbal contact with native speakers or exposure to English speaking cultures.
3) He's learned the English in what Kachru refers to as the "expanding circle" in his "three circles of English". This is the the third outer layer after the inner and outer circle in "world Englishes"

This is not a problem, but maybe if he learned to acknowledge where he's at and take some responsibility and be open to growth, he wouldn't get so offended and may even grow a little emotionally.

He posted a thread last weak where he failed to set up a date properly, perceived the girl as playing games with him (hint: I pointed out he was seeing games where there was none and now he's seen offense where there was none) and tried to come across as nonchalant. If ever i saw a buffer to rejection AND complete apathy from anyone.............I wonder is he a stoner.

Anyway, it's clear this thread was about his own personal trauma being provoked. He's still suffering. He would like a nice, sweet girlfriend to settle down into a warm, snug comfortable life.

It's also clear that he hasn't recovered from the trauma of his childhood issues he had with his father. You'll never achieve strong, mature masculine growth unless you heal the father trauma.

You see these trauma's (the unhealed feelings from an ex, the childhood issues with dad or dysfunctional family) are like sunburn that's half healed. You forget about them until someone or something........tap tap taps upon it. Then she stings.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Spot on.

Let's look at the title of his thread "the sickness of the women in today's world" Doesn't exactly come across as the most positive or joyous thread really does it? Then he receives some responses that don't exactly agree with him and his response is to say such things as:

1) you want your "opinion" to offend (notice how he puts opinion in inverted commas. One can translate that as a little attempted passive aggressive dig. An attempted put down of the disagreement he received. A sign of disdain. Contempt. Now we have some congruency with the thread)

Really? Translation: he is offended by my opinion and any other opinion that maybe different than his. Personally, I like to dig a little deeper than the surface question and so often it's never really about the surface question. Sometimes we dig a little deeper and there's gold to be found, gold used for growth. Anyway, I just couldn't imagine having a beer in a beer garden with such an apathetic and sensitive young boy. Imagine, he's giving you his theory on women and you give him your response and he says back to you "dude, I think you should be more positive when you're responding to me so that I can understand me better. And I know you're trying to offend me". Son, spend some time mixing with other males. Being a loner and an introvert is turning you anti social and over sensitive.


2) you could make your posts more positive so that they can be better understood (note: this was written in poorly constructed English. I took the liberty of correcting the awful grammar instead of confusing the matter)
So this where he reveals his disingenuous nature. Granted it may not be by design but rather a stunt in his growth and a bruised and hurt ego. Again he creates a thread entitled "the sickness of women" and he thinks others could be more positive with their responses. The lack of congruency is palpable.

Granted it's interesting to note that he wants me posts to be more positive so that he can understand them better. Ok maybe there is some honesty being revealed. Non native English speaker.


3) please remove any literary devices from your posts (the two examples that he seemed to have difficulty with and made a special requests that I remove them were irony and sarcasm) This is a poster who takes everything at face value. Everything has to be literal. Some other poster had to reply to him in a thread the other day "brother, that was a joke" as he took the clear tongue in cheek joke as literal. He completely missed the point of my second reply to him, took it literal, got offended by it, got defensive and tried to attack back. (hint: it contained a literary device)

Again, trying to understand the poster and help him, we can realize and understand:
1) the guy is a non-native speaker (writer) of English. Many of them come here and to other sites and blogs with the main intention of improving their English.
2) the guy's level is around B2. it can sometimes appear above that in writing but it's clear he has no verbal contact with native speakers or exposure to English speaking cultures.
3) He's learned the English in what Kachru refers to as the "expanding circle" in his "three circles of English". This is the the third outer layer after the inner and outer circle in "world Englishes"

This is not a problem, but maybe if he learned to acknowledge where he's at and take some responsibility and be open to growth, he wouldn't get so offended and may even grow a little emotionally.

He posted a thread last weak where he failed to set up a date properly, perceived the girl as playing games with him (hint: I pointed out he was seeing games where there was none and now he's seen offense where there was none) and tried to come across as nonchalant. If ever i saw a buffer to rejection AND complete apathy from anyone.............I wonder is he a stoner.

Anyway, it's clear this thread was about his own personal trauma being provoked. He's still suffering. He would like a nice, sweet girlfriend to settle down into a warm, snug comfortable life.

It's also clear that he hasn't recovered from the trauma of his childhood issues he had with his father. You'll never achieve strong, mature masculine growth unless you heal the father trauma.

You see these trauma's (the unhealed feelings from an ex, the childhood issues with dad or dysfunctional family) are like sunburn that's half healed. You forget about them until someone or something........tap tap taps upon it. Then she stings.

Player Supreme said he got crushed in a bad relationship and he said it took FIVE whole years to fully get his balls back . He was a proponent of self examination and repairing the damage from childhood traumas .

The mindset is important because it signals to the universe . If you are self conscious about something it will show up in your vibe .it's important to accept yourself .

Also a "thirst" mindset such as locking down a particular "hot" girl will result in the universe rewarding you with a situation that keeps you thirsty . So you might get close to the "hot" girl, but only as a orbiter.

Tyler from RSD said these days if you want a good girlfriend you need to first go through a player phase. Go through at least four years immersed as a player. When you can have ten or twenty girlfriends, then you have enough game to hold one. He used baseball player Derek Jeter as an example.

 

[lizardking82]

@Reykhel you are really special. You even remember how some other poster replied to me in another thread...you think I didn't understand his joke? LOL I understood the joke, just chose to reply in a serious way.

My level of English is C2, meaning native speaker level. Have completed two different tests about this, Cambridge and Oxford ones, both with respectively 98 and 99 points out of a 100. I was born and raised in Albania and my grammar may not be perfect since I never really cared about learning the language "the official way" and I never really liked the girl-suited way of learning it in schools where you complete exercises and all that sh1t to learn a language.

Again, my girlfriend is not a half burn that when you tap tap, it hurts. She is a memory and as a memory, yes, this thread is also connected to her, but much more connected to the general environment that has granted women a blameless path to destroying relationships and often also marriages and families, in an indirect way, also destroying themselves in the process since they keep having relationships until they hit the wall and then settle down with some weak ass normal and random guy just because they don't wanna be alone for the rest of their lives and want to have something to show to their friends and family.

And to round it up, I am not offended by your opinion, nor is my ego bruised from it. I have just noticed a pattern in the way you respond in the forum. You seem like someone waiting to pounce on everybody, never really trying to help someone, rather trying to, with a weird fatherly approach, put them down for whatever you think has happened. You seem like the uptight sergeant in the army that is always putting you down in all the anger he has bottled inside him for whatever reason from his childhood or relations with his father. I suggested you be more positive not to me, but in general. You can be as negative as you want towards me, it doesn't touch me much anyways.

There are threads with negative nuances and threads with positive nuances. By nature, I am a bit melancholic from time to time and sometimes when in that state, I might give my posts a texture of that. But I don't go full balistic with negative threads, trynna put people down and tell them "the world is a dark place, stay home".

My relationship with my father has been complicated, I guess like a lot of relationships with fathers. He was an army veteran and as a consequence, a very stern and strong-handed man. Yes, I have had conflicts with him, even extreme ones. Not since 5-6 years, though. I guess at adolescence, most people have some conflict with their father. I've had mine and I have tried to own them. Maybe I have not owned them fully, but I am trying my best.

This is my last ever answer to any post that you construct attempting to "uncover the secrets of Donald's childhood traumas and relations with his father". If, when you answer, you will be talking about the topic and on point, I will discuss with you just like I would with anyone else on this forum. If, like a rather feminine person, you try and divert the conversation to unrelated points by trying to "look deeper", I will ignore you. And not cause I am offended or touched, but because I have no intention to entertain a wanna be troll.

 

[Reykhel]

Player Supreme said he got crushed in a bad relationship and he said it took FIVE whole years to fully get his balls back . He was a proponent of self examination and repairing the damage from childhood traumas .

Exactly. At least he was honest about it. People have a tendency to sweep that ****e under the carpet and you know what happens when you sweep ****e under the carpet.....it bulges beneath the surface. As adults, we also tend to replicate the relationships that we had as children....because it's the only manner we know how. So many men who had an unhealthy (ie way too close) relationship with their mothers (mommy's boys) will tend to replicate that relationship with women. We do we say it's a red flag if the girl had an absent father? (given no boundaries etc) or if she had a conflictive relationship with her father? (she'll treat you the same). Or how about the pattern that we see amongst women who had an alcoholic father? They somehow end up marrying an alcoholic (repeating the same care taking/codependent strategies perhaps).

I'm not sure if this kid will manage to get his balls back at all. Why? he's not on the right path. Carrying bitterness and resentment to women is not healthy. Adapt. Not everything is a conspiracy. I can see the kid carrying this bitterness and anger into his thirties and falling to addiction or some other debauchery.

I knew there was daddy issues because he's projected them on to me on about three occasions know. I kept telling him "son, I'm not your father.....you've got to stop looking at me as dad".

The mindset is important because it signals to the universe . If you are self conscious about something it will show up in your vibe .it's important to accept yourself .

Precisely. Ever notice how a victim mentality seems to invite ****e into their lives? someone who thinks they are not good enough gives that off in their subcommunications. They sabotage things before they get going.

That's what I saw with the kid and his other thread where he was seeing "games" where there was none. He doesn't feel good about himself. That's why I was wondering was he a stoner. He has the look of a sorry depressed stoner.

Also a "thirst" mindset such as locking down a particular "hot" girl will result in the universe rewarding you with a situation that keeps you thirsty . So you might get close to the "hot" girl, but only as a orbiter.

This is golden and again something you should elaborate on more. You are given what you're thirsty for but not in the way could have imagined.

 

[Reykhel]

yes, this thread is also connected to her

At least he's being a little honest now.

You seem like someone waiting to pounce on everybody, never really trying to help someone, rather trying to, with a weird fatherly approach, put them down for whatever you think has happened. You seem like the uptight sergeant in the army that is always putting you down in all the anger

My relationship with my father has been complicated, I guess like a lot of relationships with fathers. He was an army veteran and as a consequence, a very stern and strong-handed man. Yes, I have had conflicts with him, even extreme ones.

LOL. His projection of his father issues onto my replies have being displayed before......several times in fact.
But there you go once again, on display.......

Clear as day that this kid is projecting his daddy issues onto me.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

This problem won't go away until weak ass beta males get their shyt together

Agree with this (in concept, not in the proposed solution which would probably be "abuse women lol").

Guys are by no means blameless in relationships. However, the market value of men has plummeted both online and offline because girls have wised up to the fact that so many men are f*cking desperate saps that will white knight pathetically if it gives them a 5% chance of getting laid.

Even Jordan Peterson has said he's noticed a massive surge in men who claim to be extreme feminists and hate on other men just because they have a "creepy" (in his own words) intent. And they're not man enough to compete with other men in any other way except being the gender equivalent of an Uncle Tom.

I mean, we have men who are actively arguing against other men that it's fine for women to be obese and demand a ripped athletic man as a partner.

When women are getting people rush to their defence constantly and they have access to a horrendously skewed OLD/Tinder/Bumble environment too, they can get whatever they want with zero consequences. So why not ditch your meaningful LTR and instead have 500 flings with hot Tinder guys?

In fact, in a really twisted way you could describe these girls as Redpill women. They've realised that their worth is immeasurably high to 75% of no-standards men who just desperately want a vagina in their life and so they've also realised they have a golden ticket to do whatever the f*ck they want, long term partner be damned.

 

[The Duke]

Relationships have beginnings and sometimes endings, often endings considering that people are getting married later in life. However, they are also making better decisions because the divorce rate is dropping as well. Therefore, taking the facts, lower divorce rate and getting married later means there will be more relationships that end. And this is a good thing.

This means less divorces and less single parents, I think we both can agree those are good things. When relationships dont work, they can be ended by either party, it doesn't make anyone at fault, it just means it wasn't a good fit. Should anyone have to stay with a sinking ship? I certainly wouldnt.

So when a man no longer lights his womans fire and she says, "I am not feeling it any more", it is his fault. I am willing to bet he failed on so many levels. If he hadn't, he would have ended the relationship, not her.

This non-committed environment that everybody lives in has likely created a large increase in the number of sexual partners a woman experiences. Are you going to tell me that is a good thing too?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

We have to think about our needs as men . This guy was a little harsh in his language, but it drives the point home.

It's about the basic Alpha male mindset .

https://m.y0utube.com/watch?v=34hl3V5TCE0

 

[Reykhel]

This is my last ever answer to any post that you construct attempting to "uncover the secrets of Donald's childhood traumas and relations with his father". If, when you answer, you will be talking about the topic and on point, I will discuss with you just like I would with anyone else on this forum. If, like a rather feminine person, you try and divert the conversation to unrelated points by trying to "look deeper", I will ignore you. And not cause I am offended or touched, but because I have no intention to entertain a wanna be troll.

For the sake of learning: this is where this stumblebum fails with both men and women. If we look at the above, he tries to establish a frame, saying....."if you wish that I discuss an issue with you, these are the conditions which I will do it. Otherwise I won't discuss with you". He also tries to add leverage to the frame...."if you deviate from these conditions, that can only mean that you are a feminine person"

This attempted frame is an ego protection. If the above conditions are not met he can delude himself into believing that he's on the right side of history.

Look at his previous threads about women: What's interesting to note is he uses the exact same frame. He failed to set up a date with a girl by giving some vague set up and not being dominant and assertive. Then when she doesn't respond the way he thinks "she should", he deludes himself into thinking that he's "rejecting" her. This is the ego deluding frame that he thinks is working with women, simply because it's protecting his ego......the problem is.......the woman doesn't give a fvck about him.

He didn't have a strong enough frame to invite her into his world. Weak half azzed invite.

Lack of energy, lack of vigor, lack of masculinity.

As for his silly attempted "frame" in this thread, he doesn't get that i stopped replying to him directly when i realized he got offended because he misunderstood the English and I saw he was being a dishonest little brat. When a thread is open on a public forum it's open for discussion and sometimes it takes whatever direction.....if he thinks masculinity is not related to his op, sadly he's more lost than first thought........the topic takes on a life of it's own...........telling me he won't respond to me when I'm talking about him and not to him.....is just silly.

 

[wifehunter]

"The sickness of the women in today's world"

Yes sir...Instead of 'playing doctor', maybe we should send them to a REAL doctor.