The whole USA is an horrific sausage fest

marmel75

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Mate if you have to improve yourself and get 5 bachelor degrees to get paid 5 euros per hour but then brag that you belong to the 10% of employed people, its fine to me.

I would rather get a bachelor degree then move to a country where companies value me and respect me as a worker, pay me 50 euros per hours while keeping me happy.

Feel free to brag about being the one who "wins" in a hard market while others make excuses and move to greener pastures for better conditions.

Wish everyone would follow your suggestions so my greener pastures will remain greener than yours.

If you guys will ever see what the dating life of the average eastern european man is...you would start a global strike against the western market not any different than romenians when they found out what economy outside comunism was ...comrade marmel :D

The market sucks?....well just improve yourself till you are an overqualified wage slave, no thanks I pass ;)

You may get the "job" but you are still underpaid and tapped in a crappy market.
50 Euros per hour and then take 28 of them back in taxes....European countries have some of the highest taxes of anywhere.

I'm a programmer and a damn good one. I get paid well and can always take on additional work on the side anytime I want.
 
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And so how does someone who is short raise his SMV?
All the same ways any other guy does. Work out, dress well and get passionate about your career and hobbies. I feel like an a$$hole talking about this because I'm over six foot, but while height can be a hindrance, it's not a death knell. One of the biggest players I know, who used to hook up with hotties every week, was a short dude who played in a band. Had tatts, dressed stylishly, etc. He said he had some women reject him based on height but for the most part it wasn't an issue. He was with a bunch of hot women who were taller than him, too.

And do you know what I think the biggest reason was? He didn't give a fvck about his height. Their problem, not his.
 
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50 Euros per hour and then take 28 of them back in taxes....European countries have some of the highest taxes of anywhere.

I'm a programmer. I get paid well and can always take on additional work on the side anytime I want.
Hahaha. An "alpha male" computer programmer.

Now I've heard it all. No wonder you have to work so hard on those biceps.
 

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That's a cute post man but come out into the real world when you get the chance okay?

Your society, its rules and norms determine your dating success. If you want the hottest girls, being in the right location matters a lot. If in a given area, dating deadbeats with no jobs is "cool" while hating the educated man making six figures because "smart people suck" is horrible, then you are screwed.

You are free to try and run game in places where this is the case, I'll be in NYC by then sleeping with super models who appreciate a handsome guy with a nice salary. All the while, you can try chasing miss Former Zeta that thinks educated men are evil while deadbeats are cool.
ok then lets do this you keep doing what is working for you and I keep doing what works for me, not problem on that, just don't make excuses for your short commings

Eh, why do so many guys here talk about money as a factor in getting women? I honestly haven't seen any correlation there in my personal experience and my observations. It's 100% game and appearance. Being dirt poor does make it more difficult, of course, but I think we've all seen a lot of dirt-bag guys with strong game get tons of women.
because wanting or not most have 3 things brainwashed inside they heads, you need to support your family working, you main value is how much you can make each year, no girl will even look at you if you are poor.

the truth is more money you have more confidence you will have, its easier for most people when they know they can put anything to work when they flash some money. in the end is all on they heads

there is also that joke: who likes mens are gay, woman likes money
 

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Hahaha. An "alpha male" computer programmer.

Now I've heard it all. No wonder you have to work so hard on those biceps.
well at least he is doing something, better then keep complaining you can't date anyone
 

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I don't care what the ratio is I know I can pull regardless.I have pulled consistently in military towns where the base is bigger than the town the ratio was probably 300 dudes to 50 females.I once pulled in a biker strip bar with 100 men and around 4 dancers.
 

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I don't care what the ratio is I know I can pull regardless.I have pulled consistently in military towns where the base is bigger than the town the ratio was probably 300 dudes to 50 females.I once pulled in a biker strip bar with 100 men and around 4 dancers.
Guys successful on base can be successful anywhere. They have to have mad game.
 

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You set your sights and date the knock out gorgeous short girls....
The problem is that a lot of short gals don't want their sons to be short, so they go for tall men. :mad:
 

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The problem is that a lot of short gals don't want their sons to be short, so they go for tall men. :mad:
you've decided to impose self limitations on yourself that simply are not there
 

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Guys successful on base can be successful anywhere. They have to have mad game.
Wasn't the theme of "An Officer And a Gentleman" that the officer candidates were a highly prized commodity by the local hick women?
 

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Doesnt matter if half of those men are not attractive, they can still spam message and likes through facebook and tinder turning warpigs into divas.

Also if there are 100 workers but only two industries, what happens is that those industries only hire MIT bachelors to clean toilets while offering few bucks cause they have other options available.

In that case I dont believe getting a postgraduate is the numer one priority.

No matter how tight your game is or how great you are, playing in such market is a losing bet even if you are the more qualified of the slaves.

You guys should spend a couple of months in a estern european country to see how demading and worthless western women are nowadays.

I swear on god you cant imagine what the life of the average men there is in terms of dating and relationships...the same difference between a middle eastern man and a western one in terms of civil rights and salary.
I find western women on the whole to be pretty worthless and very self entitled and have enjoyed my relationships with eastern European women and south east Asian women alot more. I find them alot more accomplished individuals. Is that fair to say?
 

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Eh, why do so many guys here talk about money as a factor in getting women? I honestly haven't seen any correlation there in my personal experience and my observations. It's 100% game and appearance. Being dirt poor does make it more difficult, of course, but I think we've all seen a lot of dirt-bag guys with strong game get tons of women.
It's made little difference to me. What's made a difference is presence on a date and being able to lead and get sexual in a confident manner that rapidly changed my dating life far more than any quantity of money could
 

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Wasn't the theme of "An Officer And a Gentleman" that the officer candidates were a highly prized commodity by the local hick women?
Obscure reference old man.... Most of the people here weren't even born yet... lol... ;-)
 

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Yes, San Jose is that badly skewed. The whole USA is not San Jose.

Perspective.
Now you know why I’m trying to get out of Man Jose. I don’t need to stay here cause I’m not a tech dweeb who programs all day. Ugh, I’d rather be in Iowa than this place.
 
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