The negativity is poisoning the forum

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All most guys need to do is stop playing a scared game with women.

Most guys on this forum play it safe in every situation. I see so many posts with guys worrying about what bitches think of them or how they come across. I don't give a fuk what any bytch thinks. That's why I can walk all over them and get what I want easy.

You can't play it safe with women. Gotta take risks and not be afraid to lose a bytch.
Actually, you should be scared, or at least cautious. Women are the most dangerous creatures on the planet!!! And, they don't come with warning labels. Some will destroy you, if given the chance.

Keep your distance!!!
 

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Women being the way they are today has nothing to do with women. It starts and ends with men and the lack of leadership in men today. Many men in this day and age couldn't lead a thirsty dog to water.
Well in this matter we share the same views.

I'm guessing we r in the minority.
 

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Unplugging is a negative experience. You're told growing up the world is a lot more idealistic than it actually is. I was a typical nice guy looking for my princess until my early twenties. Some guys go decades without learning the truth. Some guys never do. But the point is it's a painful experience to face the realities of dating that are hidden from us. I've seen a lot of different areas of the manosphere over the last decade and this forum is fine. Most of us on here don't hate women and we aren't incels. Hell, dealing with women while being plugged in can be a painful and negative experience. There's just no way around negativity.

The important thing is, when there are excessive views, we see the older DJ's posting calm responses. There's very few threads I read, with the exception of people like LMS guy who I forget, that are just purely negative. And I think when you do, it's often called for. There are women out there who are far more toxic than anything this forum produces and it's important to get guys away from them. Get guys to understand their worth and to sometimes save their lives. That requires being "negative towards women" occasionally.

I think for the most part though, we're pretty balanced. It's just important for new people to understand that any extreme view is probably not the complete picture. People are complicated and chaotic. Use the extreme views to understand what can happen, but craft your own frame and personality to dictate what you will and won't tolerate. Ultimately there is no right and wrong. Everyone is different, including women. I probably wouldn't be with my girlfriend if I had posted here five years ago and followed the extremist advice. But those lessons then were important to get me to here. Master the rules so you can learn how to break them.
 
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Keep your distance!!!
It has been said here to keep them at "arms length" I think that is way too fvckin close.When I was in the Army we were always yelled at to keep a "combat interval" at all times so one grenade could not kill the whole patrol....So when dealing with women always keep a combat interval and watch your six.
 

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Actually, you should be scared, or at least cautious. Women are the most dangerous creatures on the planet!!! And, they don't come with warning labels. Some will destroy you, if given the chance.

Keep your distance!!!
Let'em try to destroy me. I'm not afraid of these hoes.

Women only destroy betas. They smell the fear.
 

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The negativity in the discussion forum is pure poison and mostly reminds me of sites like PuaHate or the subReddit “Incels”. I might be mistakes as I’ve only just recently started lurking the discussion forum and previously only focused on the tips and bible sections, but something is profoundly rotten.
Not sure bro. Everything seems normal to me.

Sosuave: You can have sex with the hottest young actress that the world is in love with, if you have Confidence. There are are NO rules when it comes to hot, gorgeous, talented, sexy, young famous women.

Sosuave: You can’t offend, insult, or harass anyone. There are RULES when it comes to posting on an anonymous Internet forum where half the guys make less than average US salary and half of them have criminal records.


Go Sosuave!

Guys, you will gain absolutely nothing from your continuous complaining and shaming of females. Sure, some girls are mean, some girls are unfair and even shallow, I’ve met my fair share, but spending every woke hour complaining will get you nowhere.
Of course. It just FEELS good for men to get the anger out. If it’s bottled up inside men will go crazy.

the obsessive “NEXTing” and “all-girls-are-sluts” movement of the forum is counterproductive at best.
All girls ARE sluts. It’s not a knock on them, it’s just reality. What power does a girl have other than the use of her body? And the older she gets, the less leverage she has. Why do you think women care so much about sex and marriage when they are older? Because they are losing their Power. When they are younger, they have immense immense power, so they can afford to be choosy and manipulate.

Notice how men always know what to do when they are dealing with a 35+ year old women? But if it’s a 27 year old woman, then they don’t know what to do. Even though it’s the SAME situation.

It’s all perspective.

Trust me, the advice and experiences of the collective community is truly valuable, but only as long as we keep a positive attitude and embrace the advice we are given.
Whenever I’m in a meeting and someone says “Trust me.’ I stop listening.


You told me never to trust someone who said “Trust me’’.’
‘Did you trust me when I told you that?’
 

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Sosuave: You can have sex with the hottest young actress that the world is in love with, if you have Confidence. There are are NO rules when it comes to hot, gorgeous, talented, sexy, young famous women.
I think one of my favorite posters of all time on SS (Anti dump ) said it best..."interest level is everything" once you burn that into your brain it's easy peasy Japanesey.
 

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No, you're right. And most of the people hurling insults don't have a clue about the topic at hand. Then they claim that I don't listen.

I go on a house repair forum. I never argue or "rebuttal" anyone because they actually give answers and advice that make sense.

I think part of the problem is that attracting women is individual to each person. You're not going to be successful by copying somebody else's personality.

I think the first "pickup" advice I ever asked anyone was my friends brother when I was 11 or 12 years old. He was much older and he was good at going to the mall and getting girls numbers. We asked him how he did it, he just said... "Everyone has their own thing."
Women are much more complex then house repair. Any man willing to put in the effort to learn could eventually grasp the concept of house repair... every man cannot be a player no matter how much he reads or learns. I think that is why you see more arguments on this forum. With women you have to actually go against your natural instincts a lot of times to come out on top, which many men, simply can't understand, or aren't willing to accept
 

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Women being the way they are today has nothing to do with women. It starts and ends with men and the lack of leadership in men today. Many men in this day and age couldn't lead a thirsty dog to water.
^This. Decades ago men had all the power and control of everything, no questions asked. But then at some point men started allowing women to trade pu$$y for power. More, and more, and more, and more all the time. Until enough was taken that a line was crossed and out blossoms feminism. The phrase "We have created a monster" truly applies here. We men have created a monster in the female collective in allowing it to evolve and conquer. Now it's a monster we can no longer control. Physically men still do control a lot, but the problem is, too many women control too many men. So while the men are still pushing the buttons, women are calling too many of the shots now and the men are too wussified to fight back. We here on SS have the right ideas, but there are not nearly enough of us to make any real change on a big enough scale to matter.
 
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Women are much more complex then house repair. Any man willing to put in the effort to learn could eventually grasp the concept of house repair... every man cannot be a player no matter how much he reads or learns. I think that is why you see more arguments on this forum. With women you have to actually go against your natural instincts a lot of times to come out on top, which many men, simply can't understand, or aren't willing to accept
House repair is not as easy as you think. Some people learn way faster than others. Some people are more intelligent than others and can learn quicker.

There is nothing to "read" in order to be a player. Such books and instruction manuals do not exist.

What natural instincts are you talking about? And what ways to go against them?
 

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I would generally agree that there is an immense amount of negativity here, but that is the nature of the forum. Most men landed here, reeling from a relationship or significant loss, looking for answers to , "why did this happen to me?" They find the red pill, and latch onto the idea that generalized half of the human race (women) into slurts, *****s, garbage, or any other derogatory term. When someone is completely lost or broken, they will seek solace and guidance from anyone who is willing to give it. This is a very dangerous time to find something as controversial as the red pill.

They found the red pill, but end up swallowing the black pill. Why? Because it is much smaller, and it places blame on their environment. It does not truly fix the source of the problem. And what is that? It is a man that exhibits low value behaviors, such as supplication, being combative, or overly competitive. It is a man who is not a man at all, but merely learns a set of rules he follows with the enormous amount of experience he will gain from success with women. It's no different than an actor reading a script.

They go from being the pvssy whipped supplicator to the bully, the boy who uses his negative emotions to manipulate his women. Often times, they are performing the same actions that landed them here, leaving a trail of bloodied hearts. And their ego has too much power over their fragile psyche because manipulative behaviors can be I intoxicating to someone used to be a punching bag. I'm sure Charles Manson and Hitler can attest to the power of charm and manipulation.

What we need to do is drop the egos, drop the ideas that half of the human population is trash. Accept that there are masculine and feminine energies and learn how to navigate them. Dont make sweeping generalizations that are extremely damaging to the beaten down men that land here, which gives them an easy exit for actual self realization
 

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House repair is not as easy as you think. Some people learn way faster than others. Some people are more intelligent than others and can learn quicker.

There is nothing to "read" in order to be a player. Such books and instruction manuals do not exist.

What natural instincts are you talking about? And what ways to go against them?
I never said it was easy... I said anyone could learn it, if they applied themselves

People "read" advice on this forum all the time. That counts as reading

An example of needing to go against your instints would be not calling a girl everyday just because you like her a lot and want to talk to her. Or not giving gifts, and money to a women just because you think the world of her... a lot of men have to fight against those natural urges
 

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take advice on how, after many thread reads, see how others handle a situation and what worked, what doesnt...
what does not fit your style, what does...

learn to identify basic female behaviors, good and bad, how to apply insight from the info to your situation so you can get results that are congruent to who you need to be for yourself and to filter for what it is you need from women to have the companionship/sex/whatever that you enjoy.

I am thankful for this forum, as it has put many missing pieces into place for me (20 years too late!), and I am a better man for it, with women, relationship and friendships...

try to help men get some clarity... stick to the basics gents, SS is only what we make it.
 
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I never said it was easy... I said anyone could learn it, if they applied themselves

People "read" advice on this forum all the time. That counts as reading

An example of needing to go against your instints would be not calling a girl everyday just because you like her a lot and want to talk to her. Or not giving gifts, and money to a women just because you think the world of her... a lot of men have to fight against those natural urges
I give money because they have sex. Like this hot 21 year old Hooters waitress I'm meeting later this week.

She works full-time as a waitress, not as a hooker.
 

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Problem with most dudes is they're beta and too nice.

You have women playing from a rule book that is purely self-serving and morally indifferent. But guys here want to be heroes and always do the right thing. So of course women walk all over them and they come here to bytch about it.

If you guys stop being so soft and nice you'll get laid more.

My approach to dating is borderline evil. I walk all over women and I get what I want. That's why you don't see me whining up this this place.
Ever hear of Capt. Save-A-Ho? LOL.
 

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