Prize Mentality

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Having a prize mentality of our own worth regarding women could probably help a few guys on here. @bigdave17 thinks that women at his level are looking for a tall model that he cannot live up to. If he had a prize mentality he would expect women to prove their worth to him and not get so hung up on what he incorrectly believes is their desire. @RichardTheFrog wouldn't get penis injections or contemplate breaking his legs for height if he believed he was the prize that women want.

It's not an excuse to not self improve, but there's a defeatist attitude for those who give up without trying rather than expecting women to prove to them that they're right for the guy. Getting painful surgery isn't necessary for a guy who can rely on his good traits and to utilize that prize mentality.

I struggle with thinking I am the prize. However, I don't sweat it when a girl isn't interested in me. I know the girl I want is one who is interested and will appreciate my positive traits. So I consider myself a prize to the right girl.

What do you guys think? Is prize mentality worthwhile or is it bunk in your eyes?

Any examples where prize mentality has benefited you?
 

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It's easier to think of yourself as 'the prize' once other people have complimented you, and you've had a few accomplishments under your belt.

The hard part is getting there. It takes work and dedication. Most chodes are lazy.
 

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It's easier to think of yourself as 'the prize' once other people have complimented you, and you've had a few accomplishments under your belty.
I was making a national top 5% income at the age of 24-25. If I counted the number of people who have told me I was very handsome, gorgeous, beautiful and/or a super great guy, very likable, charming, etc... the number would probably be in the 1000s (no exaggeration)

I still can't convince myself that the cute fit girls at my gym would ever want to be with me. I feel like I need to be the biggest, most ripped, most muscular, most handsome, wealthiest, most charismatic, most intelligent guy there to have a chance (basically I tell myself that I need to be at a level of perfection that's not possible to be good enough for them). I think I developed this inner voice at a young age that kept telling me over and over and over and over again that I didn't deserve to have any dating life.
 

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I was making a national top 5% income at the age of 24-25. If I counted the number of people who have told me I was very handsome, gorgeous, beautiful and/or a super great guy, very likable, charming, etc... the number would probably be in the 1000s (no exaggeration)

I still can't convince myself that the cute fit girls at my gym would ever want to be with me. I feel like I need to be the biggest, most ripped, most muscular, most handsome, wealthiest, most charismatic, most intelligent guy there to have a chance (basically I tell myself that I need to be at a level of perfection that's not possible to be good enough for them). I think I developed this inner voice at a young age that kept telling me over and over and over and over again that I didn't deserve to have any dating life.
Despite your accomplishments you don't have a prize mentality. It's an interesting contradiction that you think highly of yourself until it comes to women. You've got ugly duckling syndrome bad from your years in high school. If you want to succeed with the women you want, you're going to have to rewire yourself.

@bigdave17 have you read and fully absorbed the dj bible? I would be surprised if you've read it because you don't seem to apply it in your posts. I recommend you read through it and try the approach challenge. Another poster put it well. You're not even in the sidelines of a game, you're in the stands questioning the guys actually playing the game. Put your big boy britches on and start doing rather than just complaining.
 
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Having a prize mentality of our own worth regarding women could probably help a few guys on here. @bigdave17 thinks that women at his level are looking for a tall model that he cannot live up to. If he had a prize mentality he would expect women to prove their worth to him and not get so hung up on what he incorrectly believes is their desire. @RichardTheFrog wouldn't get penis injections or contemplate breaking his legs for height if he believed he was the prize that women want.

It's not an excuse to not self improve, but there's a defeatist attitude for those who give up without trying rather than expecting women to prove to them that they're right for the guy. Getting painful surgery isn't necessary for a guy who can rely on his good traits and to utilize that prize mentality.

I struggle with thinking I am the prize. However, I don't sweat it when a girl isn't interested in me. I know the girl I want is one who is interested and will appreciate my positive traits. So I consider myself a prize to the right girl.

What do you guys think? Is prize mentality worthwhile or is it bunk in your eyes?

Any examples where prize mentality has benefited you?
Quit fvcking mentioning me. I don't even fvcking know you.
 

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Richards posts are my new Netflix.
And Dave is an enigma. I don’t think a person can possess all of which he claims and have so much difficulty with women. So something seems off.
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On the real topic, I believe Spidah stated it well. It’s about an abundance mindset.

To me...

I personally don’t want to view myself as a ‘prize’. Viewing myself as such would mean to view myself as a product in a way; higher than others. It’s a touch narcissistic. Like “oh you have to do this, that, and the other, because I’m the prize here, not you. I’m the winner, you can win me if you play your cards right”. It would become all about me. And I wouldn’t want to be that. It’s a bore.

When I think of having an abundant mindset, I believe it gears ones brain in a more positive way. And enables more “flow” between myself and the external world. To allow things to come and go as they please. To see the good in places, people, and myself. There’s gratitude entangled within abundance. I don’t want to have power over anything, except my own attitude. Life seems more rich that way.

Prize = arrogance. Abundance = confidence.

And when you think about all the abundance in your life right now. You’ll realize how rich you truly are. Even in areas where you believe it’s not enough. And once we gear our minds to focus on the abundance we currently possess, you’ll realize your life is pretty great and a lot of success can grow from that moment.

You could be in a concentration camp somewhere or doing slave labour. Imagine that. Then come back to this moment and realize we really complain about nothing and miss many great moments.
And if you don’t believe me on that.. read ‘mans search for meaning’ by Viktor E Frankl. Our lives are simply wonderful. Most people just focus on the lack of abundance.

My perspective.
 
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Having a prize mentality of our own worth regarding women could probably help a few guys on here. @bigdave17 thinks that women at his level are looking for a tall model that he cannot live up to. If he had a prize mentality he would expect women to prove their worth to him and not get so hung up on what he incorrectly believes is their desire. @RichardTheFrog wouldn't get penis injections or contemplate breaking his legs for height if he believed he was the prize that women want.

It's not an excuse to not self improve, but there's a defeatist attitude for those who give up without trying rather than expecting women to prove to them that they're right for the guy. Getting painful surgery isn't necessary for a guy who can rely on his good traits and to utilize that prize mentality.

I struggle with thinking I am the prize. However, I don't sweat it when a girl isn't interested in me. I know the girl I want is one who is interested and will appreciate my positive traits. So I consider myself a prize to the right girl.

What do you guys think? Is prize mentality worthwhile or is it bunk in your eyes?

Any examples where prize mentality has benefited you?

On prize mentality, it's women who view men as prizes to be had.

Whilst men should have an abundance mentality.
 

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"I am enough"

Remember this next time you struggle. That's powerful. You don't have to be perfect, all you need is to be enough.
 

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What do you guys think? Is prize mentality worthwhile or is it bunk in your eyes?

Any examples where prize mentality has benefited you?
Yes it's definitely worth it .
My conversation always convey confident.
I convey "I'm the prize" in conversation just by the way I communicate with girls, without prior intention, but it's have to be done with a wink (smile or laughter ) otherwise it'll sound arrogant, also not over do it,or ,you will sound like an A*ss.

Some example:

She: Don't expect sex tonight (on the first date)
Me: Of Course not,unless you'll asked me REALLY nicely,(with a smile)
She: you so sure of yourself don't you?
Me : Of course, and why not.( smile)

She: Are you free (day and time ) ?
Me: He babe, don't jump the queue.(laughter)
She: Ow you're in real demand don't you?
Me: always (with laughter )

Many girls commented they actually like my confidant portray in my responses.
(One of them said: You're so fu*cking alien,,,,lol)
 
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"I am enough"

Remember this next time you struggle. That's powerful. You don't have to be perfect, all you need is to be enough.
Lolz!!! enough of what?!?:p
 

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There r times when I feel that both Richard and Dave r actually the same person with split personalities.

And he's having a good laugh at all of us.
Did you see there is a new member called @RickTheToad ? Lol
 

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When you have the prize mentality, women will want to prove themselves to you, they will do as you say because they see you as someone superior.
 
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