Girl said she isn't ready for a relationship, Should I wait for her to be?

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

OP, if you want to really see if she likes you, start talking to other chicks. If/when she finds out, she will either get jealous or not care. If she gets extremely jealous, then maybe it’s worth trying to set something up again one more time, but if she bails on you last second like she’s been doing, then it’s not worth it and Id say just completely forget about her.

 

[R.U.G.]

Don't orbit the b!tch. Just move on. They always like to keep men around who they have some interest in case the primary one fails; which it eventually does. Most women live in the hear and now and not tomorrow. If it makes them feel good now, they do not worry about tomorrow. Then, two months later when she texts hey, you just ignore. Very simple minded creatures with complexed emotions. The later part is what makes them the most fvcked up.

 

[butgerman84]

OP, if you want to really see if she likes you, start talking to other chicks. If/when she finds out, she will either get jealous or not care. If she gets extremely jealous, then maybe it’s worth trying to set something up again one more time, but if she bails on you last second like she’s been doing, then it’s not worth it and Id say just completely forget about her.

Yeah I'm just pissed that while she was leading me on, I passed up 2 girls that were trying to hit me up, because I thought things were going to get serious.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Don't orbit the b!tch. Just move on. They always like to keep men around who they have some interest in case the primary one fails; which it eventually does. Most women live in the hear and now and not tomorrow. If it makes them feel good now, they do not worry about tomorrow. Then, two months later when she texts hey, you just ignore. Very simple minded creatures with complexed emotions. The later part is what makes them the most fvcked up.

The ho3s don't realize their entire format about having guys on the side is why it always fails . The guys they usually are trying to be with aren't trying to be with them .

 

[R.U.G.]

The ho3s don't realize their entire format about having guys on the side is why it always fails . The guys they usually are trying to be with aren't trying to be with them .

Just backs my point that most women think of the here and now and do not prepare for the what if scenarios in life. You do not know how many times I've heard in the past that women I've seen have stated, well, I really thought you'd chase and run after me to win me back. I said win you back? Why? If the relations ended, there was a reason. We just didn't work out. What's meant to be is meant to be. Take care. You should see the looks on their faces. It's like they are going through a reboot of they mind on something. They all have the same look too. It's a dumbfounded look like they do not get it. I do not do power struggles, arguments, raise my voice, yell, etc. I just walk away when I feel I am being disrespected. Sometimes, inaction has a better effect than reaction. You know why? Simple. Women live off of emotion. Men, live off of logic and reason. Example, if I am no longer getting what I need out of this woman, I get up and leave. Women, think, well, if I stop doing this, that and this, then I will get him to comply with my wishes. That's what they are, wishes. Maybe it's my battle scars or I just have grown out of trying to rationalize with an irrational being.

This is the fact I stick by. Whether who ended it, when it's over, it's over. Doesn't matter. Men, never allow your emotions to take control of your logic and reason. If you are dating or seeing a woman, the goal is to have sex with her at as little cost and time possible. Once the sex is off the table, it's hard to see what other value they offer. This is also why I suggest to all work on yourself so you need them for nothing but entertainment. You have a good job. You can cook and clean up for yourself and home. You have your own pad. You have your own car. You are healthy and watch what you eat (don't eat pvssy unless it's checked. Very dangerous. Being serious). You have your retirement and savings in check. You have zero or little debt (I.E. student loans or mortgage. No credit cards or loans). Basically, you have your sh!t together.

So simple, yet so many men fail at the above. I did as well in my 20's. Work off of logic and reasoning, not emotion and you'd be fine in life and with women if you want them. Just remember, the majority of them are a depreciating asset. Unless they have their own money and keep in amazing shape (I.E. Liz Hurley), the value of most women plummet.

 

[greatsnake]

The real question is, who the **** voted yes???

trolls, I suppose

 

[Bible_Belt]

You give way too many f*cks.

That is the best summation of every guy on sosuave who ever had girl problems.

 

[R.U.G.]

That is the best summation of every guy on sosuave who ever had girl problems.

It happens when you allow your emotions to overpower your logic and reasoning. Need to learn how to control that sh!t. Only comes from experience.

 

[Jareamee]

It happens when you allow your emotions to overpower your logic and reasoning. Need to learn how to control that sh!t. Only comes from experience.

The on-going battle

 

[R.U.G.]

The on-going battle

No doubt brother.

 

[Jareamee]

Just backs my point that most women think of the here and now and do not prepare for the what if scenarios in life. You do not know how many times I've heard in the past that women I've seen have stated, well, I really thought you'd chase and run after me to win me back. I said win you back? Why? If the relations ended, there was a reason. We just didn't work out. What's meant to be is meant to be. Take care. You should see the looks on their faces. It's like they are going through a reboot of they mind on something. They all have the same look too. It's a dumbfounded look like they do not get it. I do not do power struggles, arguments, raise my voice, yell, etc. I just walk away when I feel I am being disrespected. Sometimes, inaction has a better effect than reaction. You know why? Simple. Women live off of emotion. Men, live off of logic and reason. Example, if I am no longer getting what I need out of this woman, I get up and leave. Women, think, well, if I stop doing this, that and this, then I will get him to comply with my wishes. That's what they are, wishes. Maybe it's my battle scars or I just have grown out of trying to rationalize with an irrational being.

This is the fact I stick by. Whether who ended it, when it's over, it's over. Doesn't matter. Men, never allow your emotions to take control of your logic and reason. If you are dating or seeing a woman, the goal is to have sex with her at as little cost and time possible. Once the sex is off the table, it's hard to see what other value they offer. This is also why I suggest to all work on yourself so you need them for nothing but entertainment. You have a good job. You can cook and clean up for yourself and home. You have your own pad. You have your own car. You are healthy and watch what you eat (don't eat pvssy unless it's checked. Very dangerous. Being serious). You have your retirement and savings in check. You have zero or little debt (I.E. student loans or mortgage. No credit cards or loans). Basically, you have your sh!t together.

So simple, yet so many men fail at the above. I did as well in my 20's. Work off of logic and reasoning, not emotion and you'd be fine in life and with women if you want them. Just remember, the majority of them are a depreciating asset. Unless they have their own money and keep in amazing shape (I.E. Liz Hurley), the value of most women plummet.

This is really solid perspective. And lightens the load if one is to engage further with that prospective woman he deems a good fit for his life. It allows a woman to have virtually no power over you, which they so deeply crave. Have to get on perfectly fine before her and continue to do so even when one is with her.

 

[R.U.G.]

This is really solid perspective. And lightens the load if one is to engage further with that prospective woman he deems a good fit for his life. It allows a woman to have virtually no power over you, which they so deeply crave. Have to get on perfectly fine before her and continue to do so even when one is with her.

I do not make the rules, I just play the game through logic and reason. Some may agree, some may disagree. It's all good. This is what works for me. In order to have a successful relationship, any relationship, both parties much be happy and get something out of it. Women want non-sexual attention. Men want sexual attention. What often happens is women pull way from giving the sexual attention, but still want the non-sexual attention. Men are no longer receiving the sexual attention, so they then try to talk and resolve the issue. Good luck. Women close their legs and their reasoning to you. However, I'll bet you 100.00 bucks that their friends and female family members know the reasons. Or, at least the reasons that she told them. Thus, there is no way to solve the impasse aside from leaving the situation. As I learned in my brief marriage (never do that), two people are needed to make a marriage or relationship work, only one is needed to destroy it. Don't be a casualty. Be a warrior.

 

[Jareamee]

I do not make the rules, I just play the game through logic and reason. Some may agree, some may disagree. It's all good. This is what works for me. In order to have a successful relationship, any relationship, both parties much be happy and get something out of it. Women want non-sexual attention. Men want sexual attention. What often happens is women pull way from giving the sexual attention, but still want the non-sexual attention. Men are no longer receiving the sexual attention, so they then try to talk and resolve the issue. Good luck. Women close their legs and their reasoning to you. However, I'll bet you 100.00 bucks that their friends and female family members know the reasons. Or, at least the reasons that she told them. Thus, there is no way to solve the impasse aside from leaving the situation. As I learned in my brief marriage (never do that), two people are needed to make a marriage or relationship work, only one is needed to destroy it. Don't be a casualty. Be a warrior.

on a simple level - while not going too much in to the tertiary aspects of relationship - the woman closes her legs and becomes less excited because men who were growing before start to become ‘comfortable’ in some sense of their lives; which we all know is the decay of anything, especially that of a man. And from there on out, the passion and invigoration which was once felt and created ceases, which gives way to being complacent, and in-turn a slew of a whole world of new problems.

As human beings we have to coach and teach ourselves to desire to constantly learn and push the boundary of our comfort zones; not just within the relationship or dating realm which is the central focus on SoSuave. And naturally within that overall encompassing growth, personal evolution will always be creating a new and exciting exsistence which is saught after by everyone.

The women we experience in our lives simply need to be the fun ‘cherry’ on top of everything. A person to share our experiences and journey with. Not make the point. The second we allot them more energy and emotion than necessary, that is the catalyst of our potential wreckage with ourselves and the relationship.

Women desire the better mates, and stronger alphas, and will forever; ongoing and never ending cycle. That’s biology.
Our goal is to desire and obtain our better self forever; that next stage of growth.
And the reason why so many men and people fail with unleashing their true desires is because constantly becoming better is painful, and requires a lot of equipoise and equanimity which many had not learned about. The vision should never be to have an amazing family or relationship - That’s simply a byproduct of being successful in their own Individual. And relationship and familial success is just a skill set.

Just typing my quick thoughts here

 

[R.U.G.]

on a simple level - while not going too much in to the tertiary aspects of relationship - the woman closes her legs and becomes less excited because men who were growing before start to become ‘comfortable’ in some sense of their lives; which we all know is the decay of anything, especially that of a man. And from there on out, the passion and invigoration which was once felt and created ceases, which gives way to being complacent, and in-turn a slew of a whole world of new problems.

As human beings we have to coach and teach ourselves to desire to constantly learn and push the boundary of our comfort zones; not just within the relationship or dating realm which is the central focus on SoSuave. And naturally within that overall encompassing growth, personal evolution will always be creating a new and exciting exsistence which is saught after by everyone.

The women we experience in our lives simply need to be the fun ‘cherry’ on top of everything. A person to share our experiences and journey with. Not make the point. The second we allot them more energy and emotion than necessary, that is the catalyst of our potential wreckage with ourselves and the relationship.

Women desire the better mates, and stronger alphas, and will forever; ongoing and never ending cycle. That’s biology.
Our goal is to desire and obtain our better self forever; that next stage of growth.
And the reason why so many men and people fail with unleashing their true desires is because constantly becoming better is painful, and requires a lot of equipoise and equanimity which many had not learned about. The vision should never be to have an amazing family or relationship - That’s simply a byproduct of being successful in their own Individual. And relationship and familial success is just a skill set.

Just typing my quick thoughts here

No doubt. However, after 30, I was no longer the simpleton. I'm aloof with all. I keep all at arms length.

 

[MatureDJ]

This is a classic way of dumping you while not officially doing so, putting you in "reserve". If she liked you, she would spend her time with you. PERIOD!

 

[CharlieCW]

While it may be true she's interested in you and she doesn't feel ready, honestly it's usually not worth waiting as: 1) she'll feel pressured to take a decision and feel bad for making you wait; 2) you'll get anxious about the time when "she's ready", which can make you end up being needy for her, thus screwing your chances with her.

My suggestion is to just let her go and move on. If something is bound to happen between you, it will eventually happen, if not it's ok too since you tried but it didn't work for reasons that aren't your fault.

 

[R.U.G.]

Never pressure, but when the time allows, move towards sex and intimacy. If the woman is not damaged emotionally, she will bond with you. Thus, staying aloof and mysterious is the key. Continue to be a challenge. When you are too predictable and too available, they get bored.

 

[nismo-4]

OP, second place is first loser. Your princess is in another castle.

I can't believe I read that long-ass wall of text. But most others can.

Judge nismo on the case.

OP, all women are ready for a relationship. She's ready, just not with you. Her ex is still in the picture and you haven't scored higher.

Even worse you're falling for her and care too much. Not good.

Do you think a woman would pull this line on Lebron James or Dwayne Johnson? They wouldn't, and you wouldn't either if Shakira wanted you all for herself.

Alas, move on. Find someone you can come in first place with. Waiting for her to be ready for a relationship? You got a better chance of becoming the next U.S. President!

Never wait around for a woman. Shows neediness and lack of options. From there, she'll string you along for beta favors i.e. pic liking, compliments, ego boosts, tech support, friendzone humor.

She's enjoying your compliments while sucking my dik and craving your fluff talk 7 minutes after I nutted inside of her.

Ditch this one and move on. You can do better than being a backup plan.

Case closed.

 

[butgerman84]

OP, second place is first loser. Your princess is in another castle.

I can't believe I read that long-ass wall of text. But most others can.

Judge nismo on the case.

OP, all women are ready for a relationship. She's ready, just not with you. Her ex is still in the picture and you haven't scored higher.

Even worse you're falling for her and care too much. Not good.

Do you think a woman would pull this line on Lebron James or Dwayne Johnson? They wouldn't, and you wouldn't either if Shakira wanted you all for herself.

Alas, move on. Find someone you can come in first place with. Waiting for her to be ready for a relationship? You got a better chance of becoming the next U.S. President!

Never wait around for a woman. Shows neediness and lack of options. From there, she'll string you along for beta favors i.e. pic liking, compliments, ego boosts, tech support, friendzone humor.

She's enjoying your compliments while sucking my dik and craving your fluff talk 7 minutes after I nutted inside of her.

Ditch this one and move on. You can do better than being a backup plan.

Case closed.

Thanks I can admit that I cared way too much when I wrote this, but I already moved on now, I think I was just letting my emotions control me at the time.

 

[spred]

OP, second place is first loser. Your princess is in another castle.

I can't believe I read that long-ass wall of text. But most others can.

Judge nismo on the case.

OP, all women are ready for a relationship. She's ready, just not with you. Her ex is still in the picture and you haven't scored higher.

Even worse you're falling for her and care too much. Not good.

Do you think a woman would pull this line on Lebron James or Dwayne Johnson? They wouldn't, and you wouldn't either if Shakira wanted you all for herself.

Alas, move on. Find someone you can come in first place with. Waiting for her to be ready for a relationship? You got a better chance of becoming the next U.S. President!

Never wait around for a woman. Shows neediness and lack of options. From there, she'll string you along for beta favors i.e. pic liking, compliments, ego boosts, tech support, friendzone humor.

She's enjoying your compliments while sucking my dik and craving your fluff talk 7 minutes after I nutted inside of her.

Ditch this one and move on. You can do better than being a backup plan.

Case closed.

Nismo I watch your posts with tough love for some years now, but I am constantly surprised how on point you are