Why prostitutes are expensive?

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Out of the 54 girls(non hookers) I've been with, only 1 of them requested a condom. Those other 53 girls said absolutely nothing. Condom usage was standard operating procedure for every hooker I've been with. So you have one group that practices safe sex, and the other group that doesn't. Yes one is more active so that certainly enters into the equation, but does driving more miles in your vehicle make you more likely to get in a wreck?

I wish hookers were accepted into mainstream. Perhaps men wouldn't be so hard up for sex and the price of non-hooker pu$$y would come down.

I also really don't see the point in putting a guy down for buying sex from a hooker. Ever single one of us pays for sex. The guy that spends $200 on a hooker gets a very quick return on his investment. The guy that goes out with a girl off Tinder has to invest time and money over the course of a few dates before he gets any return and that's not guaranteed. So if its just pu$$y you are after the best bang for your buck in the short run is a hooker.

Not sure why there is such negativity regarding hookers. They provide a service, use them if you need to.
I have wondered about that too.
I've paid. I always find its stupid of me.. Cause it's alot of money... But that money buy you Time and Effort.

I am STD phobie... Everytime... I go crazy on the potential "STD" and now Herpes is "no more checked until the outbreak.

Some of the " escort" or "call girl" want to Kiss you month to month. They also usely good looking.

Yet you never know "who and what" she touched.

However, hooker/escort always ask for condoms etc...

If you meet a girl from the bar and have a ONS.. You still dont know her or her past. She could be alot more active than you think/or just a much as the hooker.

If you date... You can screen her but you still will have to believe her about the lay and health.

So you wonder.. Who is safer: the Professionnal or the "ons" - plate.

Personally, i would prefer having 1-2 girls with whom you have a connection and have regular safe sex without having the "STD phobia" kick in.

STD phobia is such a Joy killer lol.

At the end of the day... Your booking up is based on someone else health (mental/physical)

A hooker or a normal girl... The hooker is fixed and the amount likely eliminate trash male.

The normal girl... Depends how you date her.

Where the best investment? All about how you use it
 

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As much as some men want to profess paying a hooker is the same as paying for a date, the two are vastly different.

The need for sex is bifurcated: (1) To sexually release; (2) Validation.

Although some demonize "validation" on this board, show me a man with zero validation, and I'll show you a man with mental illness. I'm sure we can think of some working examples on this board. To be desired by another is a hardwired "need" rooted deep in our psyche.

Hookers provide zero validation; hence only resolve half the need.
 
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As much as some men want to profess paying a hooker is the same as paying for a date, the two are vastly different.

The need for sex is bifurcated: (1) To sexually release; (2) Validation.

Although some demonize "validation" on this board, show me a man with zero validation, and I'll show you a man with mental illness. I'm sure we can think of some working examples on this board. To be desired by another is a hardwired "need" rooted deep in our psyche.

Hookers provide zero validation; hence only resolve half the need.
I think the end goal is the same when you’re with a hooker or a regular girl. With one of them there is much more drama involved.
 

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As much as some men want to profess paying a hooker is the same as paying for a date, the two are vastly different.

The need for sex is bifurcated: (1) To sexually release; (2) Validation.

Although some demonize "validation" on this board, show me a man with zero validation, and I'll show you a man with mental illness. I'm sure we can think of some working examples on this board. To be desired by another is a hardwired "need" rooted deep in our psyche.

Hookers provide zero validation; hence only resolve half the need.
True validation is nice, but having an attractive woman be receptive to my sexual advances - even if I have to pay her - is a validation in its own right. In this regard, "true" validation is simply validation by a woman who offers herself up for "free" (in pure economic terms) rather than for some specified price. I can remember a time when I was talking to a pro, and because she liked me, she gave me a great discount (she was a nymphomaniac that was incredibly easy to orgasm); it felt like there was validation.
 

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True validation is nice, but having an attractive woman be receptive to my sexual advances - even if I have to pay her - is a validation in its own right. In this regard, "true" validation is simply validation by a woman who offers herself up for "free" (in pure economic terms) rather than for some specified price. I can remember a time when I was talking to a pro, and because she liked me, she gave me a great discount (she was a nymphomaniac that was incredibly easy to orgasm); it felt like there was validation.
It's not a validation . Most hookers will do the job but treat you as undesireable, even if they act otherwise, they are acting . It's much more valuable for a woman to value you and desire you inside of her. It's much more healthier.
 

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True validation is nice, but having an attractive woman be receptive to my sexual advances - even if I have to pay her - is a validation in its own right. In this regard, "true" validation is simply validation by a woman who offers herself up for "free" (in pure economic terms) rather than for some specified price. I can remember a time when I was talking to a pro, and because she liked me, she gave me a great discount (she was a nymphomaniac that was incredibly easy to orgasm); it felt like there was validation.
I think what you try to say is this: if they like you as a regular client... They will give you a free job.

You making a comparaison to the restaurant/bar business.. Where if the waiter likes you.. They pay your stuff?

I have a selected few areas i go as a regular... barmaid paid my 70$ bills, they offer me free cookies + free americano coffee, they give me free beer.

Saturday, i went to a new place.. They offered me 2 beers (they payed off my bill) and gave 20 free shooters to my group. It was the first time i went there.

Yes, i am a regular, they might see it has marketing or to attract me more... And true that's the goal... Gift will make me return... Because Gift are validating.

I am a customer, they must like me as a person too since they paid for my stuff/or the service I seek from them. They could have just charged me full... But now they take the risk of "paying for me aka their spending/expenditure" and not have me come back

They pay and take the risk that i will not come back.

Anyway, receiving free stuff is always validating when you expect to pay for the stuff. Its flattering and validating (cause they dont have to)

In short, hookers might cost money due to the demand. If you want to be cheap.. Go on the street but take more condoms with you.

High end prostitute/escort can cost up to 1000$ an hour and still not sleep with you. They offer "company", some people call escort just to have someone to talk to or not be lonely (i have done it)
 

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It's not a validation . Most hookers will do the job but treat you as undesireable, even if they act otherwise, they are acting . It's much more valuable for a woman to value you and desire you inside of her. It's much more healthier.
Exactly. You cannot negotiate desire ... even with money.

Does one feel true validation knowing the "desire" is contrived or does one self-delude to believe the desire from a hooker is real? Hence, why I always ridiculed BigNeil. He self-deluded himself to believe his stripper's desire for him was true love. I had only the best intentions by giving him the real truth.

To be truly desired is a need implicit in all of us. This does not come in the hooker package.
 

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As much as some men want to profess paying a hooker is the same as paying for a date, the two are vastly different.

The need for sex is bifurcated: (1) To sexually release; (2) Validation.

Although some demonize "validation" on this board, show me a man with zero validation, and I'll show you a man with mental illness. I'm sure we can think of some working examples on this board. To be desired by another is a hardwired "need" rooted deep in our psyche.

Hookers provide zero validation; hence only resolve half the need.
you could mix validation with confidence, if doing so will help his confidence I don't see much of a problem.


but lets keep on the topic why prostitutes are expensive, I had a little check around here(over the net, serious its pretty easy to find girls offering and whole websites for just that and with full body some even faces pics) I saw from 100 to 300 some was pretty good, I cehck teh main diference from the 100 to the 300 ones mostly the 100 have no place, anything btw 150 to 200 have places, the 300 ones I didn't find most that hot and well I guess she is paid to ask for that much.

now for dates, around here any decent place to have some drinks will cost you around 20-50, not puting a possible parking lot for your car, or uber if you don't want to drive, and that is not a garantee to happen anything so in one night you will spend 100-150(I spend that much with friends nights out then dates but that is becasue I don't go to the nicest places around here of first dates or second dates). there also a hell a lot of people who jokes around about the price of *****s and the normal girl and every time the *****s are cheaper.

I don't find *****s expensive, if you compare to normal girls, the things you do, the time spend, the talking the dates, all that jsut so she can open her leg, or just pay and she open her leg.

thing is we want more be accepted or by society or by your own family, on when you will start your own, i'm all about choice though if you want to only have sex with *****s go for it, if you want to date and find a woman to start a family go for it, I would more then think we would be a little more free on societal conditioning or religious and really thing on our choices here
 

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you could mix validation with confidence, if doing so will help his confidence I don't see much of a problem.


but lets keep on the topic why prostitutes are expensive, I had a little check around here(over the net, serious its pretty easy to find girls offering and whole websites for just that and with full body some even faces pics) I saw from 100 to 300 some was pretty good, I cehck teh main diference from the 100 to the 300 ones mostly the 100 have no place, anything btw 150 to 200 have places, the 300 ones I didn't find most that hot and well I guess she is paid to ask for that much.

now for dates, around here any decent place to have some drinks will cost you around 20-50, not puting a possible parking lot for your car, or uber if you don't want to drive, and that is not a garantee to happen anything so in one night you will spend 100-150(I spend that much with friends nights out then dates but that is becasue I don't go to the nicest places around here of first dates or second dates). there also a hell a lot of people who jokes around about the price of *****s and the normal girl and every time the *****s are cheaper.

I don't find *****s expensive, if you compare to normal girls, the things you do, the time spend, the talking the dates, all that jsut so she can open her leg, or just pay and she open her leg.

thing is we want more be accepted or by society or by your own family, on when you will start your own, i'm all about choice though if you want to only have sex with *****s go for it, if you want to date and find a woman to start a family go for it, I would more then think we would be a little more free on societal conditioning or religious and really thing on our choices here
We were just saying mentally over time overuse if prostitute will drain your confidence and self image. It's better for someone to choose to eff you because they desire to.

It also coddles and enables bad habits IE: poor social skills and paying for pvzzy
 
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We were just saying mentally over time overuse if prostitute will drain your confidence and self image. It's better for someone to choose to eff you because they desire to.

It also coddles and enables bad habits IE: poor social skills and paying for pvzzy
overuse of anything, even dating can be dangerous, or you never saw people who can't stay alone for too long before there is someone already line up?

poor social skills would mean more he lack a social circle then spending on prostitutes, course being know for only having sex with pros would hurt him in the long run, but serious don't be so sure you yourself don't pay for puss, you are paying one way or another, I doubt you get something from woman if you didn't invest something on then
 

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overuse of anything, even dating can be dangerous, or you never saw people who can't stay alone for too long before there is someone already line up?

poor social skills would mean more he lack a social circle then spending on prostitutes, course being know for only having sex with pros would hurt him in the long run, but serious don't be so sure you yourself don't pay for puss, you are paying one way or another, I doubt you get something from woman if you didn't invest something on then
Your not always paying. Sometimes they are paying. You see females flock to see male strippers, right.
 

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Your not always paying. Sometimes they are paying. You see females flock to see male strippers, right.
I'm not even sure if women even go to see male strippers because of the strippers. Seems like it's more about having a "girls night out" and acting wild with the girls. It's more of a pack activity.
 

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you could mix validation with confidence, if doing so will help his confidence I don't see much of a problem.
I know you clearly understand the difference between a hooker and a date in the context of her desire for you. The deeper question you may wish to ponder is why attempt to fool yourself and others that validation through desire can be achieved through a prostitute?
 

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I'm not even sure if women even go to see male strippers because of the strippers. Seems like it's more about having a "girls night out" and acting wild with the girls. It's more of a pack activity.
Some women want to pay. It feels empowering . Anyway sometimes you pay in penis . They desired you between their legs.
 

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I know you clearly understand the difference between a hooker and a date in the context of her desire for you. The deeper question you may wish to ponder is why attempt to fool yourself and others that validation through desire can be achieved through a prostitute?
Validation CAN be achieved from a prostitute . She would date you, spend money on you and take you on dates . So you don't pay for the pvssy.
 

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I know you clearly understand the difference between a hooker and a date in the context of her desire for you. The deeper question you may wish to ponder is why attempt to fool yourself and others that validation through desire can be achieved through a prostitute?

and you understand sometimes a dude really need to get his mind right and he need to know he can do it? and again how you can be 100% sure the girl you are dating is 100% sure she is into you and not in her dream of you? you can't you can only wish its true, also i'm not thinking on a woman side or if she is or not willing to give you some, im saying its all to his choice, if he want to have the hassle of whole dating, or just pay for what he desire, plus if anything is to be belivable a lot of guys here have some anxiety over the whole act, and how you overcome it? by doing it, some could even question if youa re paying you do what you want with her pay her and don't care for anything else, like should I call later? I was good enough and she will want more later? the very least it worked as practice
 
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I'm not even sure if women even go to see male strippers because of the strippers. Seems like it's more about having a "girls night out" and acting wild with the girls. It's more of a pack activity.
Yeah, and we just assume the males strippers are gay anyway. It's a bachelorette, birthday kind of thing, not an every other weekend and knowing all the strippers by name kind of thing.
 

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Out of the 54 girls(non hookers) I've been with, only 1 of them requested a condom. Those other 53 girls said absolutely nothing. Condom usage was standard operating procedure for every hooker I've been with. So you have one group that practices safe sex, and the other group that doesn't. Yes one is more active so that certainly enters into the equation, but does driving more miles in your vehicle make you more likely to get in a wreck?

I wish hookers were accepted into mainstream. Perhaps men wouldn't be so hard up for sex and the price of non-hooker pu$$y would come down.

I also really don't see the point in putting a guy down for buying sex from a hooker. Ever single one of us pays for sex. The guy that spends $200 on a hooker gets a very quick return on his investment. The guy that goes out with a girl off Tinder has to invest time and money over the course of a few dates before he gets any return and that's not guaranteed. So if its just pu$$y you are after the best bang for your buck in the short run is a hooker.

Not sure why there is such negativity regarding hookers. They provide a service, use them if you need to.
A person needs to have their head examined if they do not wear a condom with any woman who's not in a monogamous relationship along with an STD panel. Unless, you enjoy collecting STDs or want lots of baby mamas.
 

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I'll post a youtube link here of a PUA in Britian who talked about his experience using a hooker and how he felt it was demonic:


Here are some of his pick-up routine links:


Okay, so this is not just something in my own head. Other people in the PUA field are also experiencing the same thing.

Here is another PUA from RSD who says who prostitutes corrupt your soul:


That is 2 PUA's so far warning that you can not compare using a prostitute to anything with PUA. Claims it diminishes swagger and self-respect.

Other posters on the thread that claimed to use it said it was a crutch and it did not help them in life. They described it as a bad habit rather than an asset that helped them accomplish something big in life.
These guys from RSD are losers. Don't follow them. They get as much ass as a corpse.
 

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Supply and demand...lots of desperate dudes out there who cant get laid.
 
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