I don't know what to do about my hair situation

[guru1000]

Lol, ok, it’s your 15k.

 

[bigdave17]

Lol, ok, it’s your 15k.

I'm doing FUT...way cheaper and only real downfall is the scar (which who the hell cares? I wear my hair long)

 

[guru1000]

I'm doing FUT...way cheaper and only real downfall is the scar (which who the hell cares? I wear my hair long)

Cheaper than $5 a FUT unit. Does the doc work out of his basement to save overhead? Or another country?

Lmao. Good luck. I can do it for you at $4 if you like

Btw, 29 yo is way too young for a transplant as you have no way of knowing how your hair loss will further deteriorate.

Better to stay on the drugs for a few years, stabilize, and then make a decision based on the stabilized hair.

But you’re a stubborn mule. Just post the before and after pics in this thread, so in a year or so you will agree with what’s advised.

 

[bigdave17]

Cheaper than $5 a FUT unit. Does the doc work out of his basement to save overhead? Or another country?

Lmao. Good luck. I can do it for you at $4 if you like

Btw, 29 yo is way too young for a transplant as you have no way of knowing how your hair loss will further deteriorate.

Better to stay on the drugs for a few years, stabilize, and then make a decision based on the stabilized hair.

But you’re a stubborn mule. Just post the before and after pics in this thread, so in a year or so you will agree with what’s advised.

about the age thing, that's another big reason I'm putting most of the hair in middle and crown. A conservative transplant at my age is ok. You wanted me to significantly lower my hairline - that's stupid for the reason you mentioned.

Way I look at it- even if I lose all my native hair, 2 transplants of around 8000 grafts will give me ok hair for a 45 year old

I've seen some NW7s with my hair type (Indian men) get 8000 grafts and still look passable.

Richard Keller will do about 3.80 per graft. He is one of the best surgeons in the country. I've looked up tons and tons and tons of work by surgeons and I have not seen anybody with constantly better work than him. He does especially great work with my hair type. I've seen 8 transplants by him on men with curly hair and the results are always spectacular... He is rated as like #50 best surgeon in country but I like his work more than anyone else on men with my hair type.

 

[bigdave17]

Says the guy who sells cars for a living.

Are you ever going to take anyone's advice into serious consideration, or is it always going to be an argument with you?

I can't find the example anymore but Dr Keller did a surgery on Indian man who was completely and utterly bald and he looked decent after it was done. I mean decent for a 45 year old (not for a 25 year old of course). At 45, having any hair puts you in top 20% of men. Having wavy/coarse hair makes huge difference for these transplants

Everything he is talking about, I've considered many many times

 

[guru1000]

about the age thing, that's another big reason I'm putting most of the hair in middle and crown. A conservative transplant at my age is ok. You wanted me to significantly lower my hairline - that's stupid for the reason you mentioned.
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You don’t focalize your first transplanted hair in the middle and crown, especially at 29 yo with a high risk of further thinning/balding. You will be left with transplanted hairs surrounded by zero native hairs at 40yo. You want to mimic natural balding in case your hair loss becomes extreme and you do not enough donor hairs.

This is the way it works:

1) Get on Fina/Avodart for at least one year to stabilize hair loss and see what you are working with;

2) First transplant, get no more than 2000 follicles to your frontal third. You don’t need to lower the hairline if you don’t wish to. That’s fine. Camouflage the crown with Toppik;

3) Wait a few years to monitor hair loss progression. Based on the remaining hairs, make a determination of where best to place remaining follicles, whether that is strengthening the frontal third more or at the top/crown.

4) Rogaine with fina/avodart works well on the top/crown and with Toppik alleviates the need for any transplanted hair, or if any, very few in this area;

The average bald man has only 6000 follicles available that will never shed and you want to place half of those follicles in the middle and crown at 29 yo when you just started thinning and have only used Fina for three months and thus not stabilized yet, with a doctor that charges $3.50 per graft?

You are truly retarted.

 

[bigdave17]

You don’t focalize your first transplanted hair in the middle and crown, especially at 29 yo with a high risk of further thinning/balding. You will be left with transplanted hairs surrounded by zero native hairs at 40yo. You want to mimic natural balding in case your hair loss becomes extreme and you do not enough donor hairs.

This is the way it works:

1) Get on Fina/Avodart for at least one year to stabilize hair loss and see what you are working with;

2) First transplant, get no more than 2000 follicles to your frontal third. You don’t need to lower the hairline if you don’t wish to. That’s fine. Camouflage the crown with Toppik;

3) Wait a few years to monitor hair loss progression. Based on the remaining hairs, make a determination of where best to place remaining follicles, whether that is strengthening the frontal third more or at the top/crown.

4) Rogaine with fina/avodart works well on the top/crown and with Toppik alleviates the need for any transplanted hair, or if any, very few in this area;

The average bald man has only 6000 follicles available that will never shed and you want to place half of those follicles in the middle and crown at 29 yo when you just started thinning and have only used Fina for three months and thus not stabilized yet, with a doctor that charges $3.50 per graft?

You are truly retarted.

3.8 to 4 dollars a graft for FUT is normal. 5 to 6 dollars is more in ballpark of FUE. I asked the 3 best surgeons in Illinois for pricing on FUT and they all said that 4 dollar ballpark.

I've been on Fin for 3 months and rogaine for 2 years. I really haven't noticed much hairloss for last couple years. I've especially noticed nothing on fin last 3 months. If anything, my hair feels a little thicker.

I have around 7000 to 8000 grafts available. I figured 3000 now and the rest at about 45. Who the **** cares how you look after that? 90% of men are bald by 50 anyways

I don't want to **** around with toppik. I want perfect hair now while I'm young and can enjoy it. They'll come out with hair cloning or something by time I'm 60 anyways

 

[guru1000]

3.8 to 4 dollars a graft for FUT is normal. 5 to 6 dollars is more in ballpark of FUE. I asked the 3 best surgeons in Illinois for pricing on FUT and they all said that 4 dollar ballpark.

I've been on Fin for 3 months and rogaine for 2 years. I really haven't noticed much hairloss for last couple years. I've especially noticed nothing on fin last 3 months. If anything, my hair feels a little thicker.

I have around 7000 to 8000 grafts available. I figured 3000 now and the rest at about 45. Who the **** cares how you look after that? 90% of men are bald by 50 anyways

I don't want to **** around with toppik. I want perfect hair now while I'm young and can enjoy it. They'll come out with hair cloning or something by time I'm 60 anyways

$4 is charged by some unspecialized doctors I know.

News for you pal. You will never have perfect hair. You have already lost at least 60% of your hair. It takes a 50% loss to even notice thinning in any area.

You are not adding more follicles to your head. You are simply rearranging DHT-resistant follicles.

You have an average of 6000 follicles to cover an area that needs 30,000 for a perfect set of hair. You need to place the 6000 strategically, especially given your age and high risk of more hair loss.

Good luck!

 

[bigdave17]

$4 is charged by some unspecialized doctors I know.

for FUT? 4 dollars is normal dude. Research doctors in Illinois

the 3 best doctors in Illinois are Kellar, Panine and Raymond Konior. They're all in that ballpark

News for you pal. You will never have perfect hair. You have already lost at least 60% of your hair. It takes a 50% loss to even notice thinning in any area.

let's say I have 100K hairs - I only have thinning up top which is about 30K hairs. I've lost say 20K of that. a 3000 transplant will give me maybe 8000 hairs. Which means I'm at about 70% capacity up top

70% with my very thick, coarse, wavy ethnic hair will give me the illusion of perfect hair when I grow it out long. When I was 18, if I grew my hair out - it looked like a gigantic afro. 70% of that will be more than enough

Your numbers are wrong, up top there is 30K hairs not 30K grafts. Plenty of grafts are 3/4 hair grafts

7000 grafts is maybe 18K hairs. Now this is assuming I get no hair loss below the cowlick. I have a couple thinning patches in the crown but it's only up top...it doesn't extend below.