Place matters a lot + my date blueprint lol

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On first date, place matters a lot.

When I think of ALL my past dates they successful ones have one of these things in common:
- either woman was desperate or thought im way above her smv and it just happened regardless place
- we were alone, it was evening, dark, cold. we were in park on a walk. woman would probably agree or recommend a walk anywhere and then say there was no spark and block you.
- that park has a good place where we could sit without anyone interrupting us and barely who seeing us.

Unsucceful ones had this thing on common:
- were in public places with many people, for example coffee date (it can work but it has less win ratio than dates in dark, isolated, but beatiful places)
- since it was public, any form of escalation seemed weird to her (and maybe you). you wont rub her vagina in cafe. so dont waste time going there

if you are alone she will let you do various things to her like kiss, put hands under her clothes, she will sit on your laps, meanwhile the same chick will be mad that you have your arm over her shoulder in other, more public place. she might be affraid of seeing some friend, etc.

I literally pull SAME STUFF in the same PLACE every date now and i always close date with kiss (almost banged one in her car but she said she had period). I closed with kiss last 3 chicks in the same place.

Meetings looks like that:
1. I come from behind a girl, I loudly say her name in asking tone, its important to ask it loudly, but without screaming, so she doesnt think you are wimp.
2. We go straight, entering the park, I grab her arm by shoulder and say that we go this way. Its a KINO method BUT it doesnt look weird because you are basically telling her where to go just using an arm in case she didnt hear you.
3. I still have my arm on her, IMO this is the moment she will say some weird things or try to make jokes out of 'panic' or 'excitement' or to not appear as boring/not talking much person. THis is often what women do on date at first, they panic and start talking quick till they feel a bit more comfortable. Usually she wont say anything about your arm on her because you are isolated so she doesnt feel awkward.
4. She usually says its cold, if she doesnt, then I force her to say it, by using sarcasm,something like "oh its very hot today, why would you need that jacket for" then she will say its cold for 99%.
5. When she says it, I say that she doesnt have enough meat so she feels cold
6. Most girls will say they are fat at this point even if they are slim (chicks logic) I say "let me see" and i touch her belly a bit (more kino).
7 I say she doesnt weight too much anyway, I ask her how much, she wont say it (they never say), then I say "let me check" again when we are next to lake (looks very exotic), i grab her body and lift her, while circling QUICK and STRONG so it appears like some "amusement park activity". You know what I mean.
8. I put her down, ask if she didnt lose any of her items. At this point you are in different category than ALL of her coffee dates. she knows you are more interesting, has bigger balls, etc. You also demonstrated your physical strength, chicks love it.
9. We go to that isolated place I mentioned above. we sit, i tease her lips and nose, but dont kiss. Let her want it. After a while she will crave your tongue so her tongue will be out all the time while your still inside your moth. She will be inpatient at this point.
10. I grab her body and place her on my laps. More lips teasing, touch her body also.
11. You can kiss her now, as well as put hands under her clothes (but not vagina, you can try under her pants later but she will probably reject it to not appear as total wh0re)
12. In fact from point 9 to 11 and further she will be saying same things over and over like "am I slut to u?" "I think im too easy for you" "oh jeez what im doing?! with a younger guy.." "i behave like a teen"
I also say near point 11 that park is closed (truth) so she feels more comfortable because even less
people are there.

Since its cold, she will say it all the time and try to cuddle you more.

You should be making jokes and some fluff small talk between all points.

This place is absolutely perfect for me, I've set 4 dates on Sunday and trying to set more. I suggest you strongly to find same place.

This is how first date should look like.


TLDR: you can either be one of 10-20 guys from tinder (or somewhere else) who invited her for boring coffee date that doesnt let you escalate, or you can be her ONLY date that invited her to isolated, chill, good looking place, and escalated so much that she felt extremaly comfortable with you but also attracted to you.

At the end of date (or near end) i help her do le parkour through the fence (i catch her) because park is closed, so she has even more things/memories to think about
 

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woman would probably agree or recommend a walk anywhere and then say there was no spark and block you.
Glad to see it's not just me getting the "no spark" horses***.

I've had women laughing and smiling for an entire date and then tell me "sorry, there just wasn't a spark LOL". What the f*ck do they define as a "spark" anyway? I'm supposed to whip my kn*b out first date and slap it on the table so that they know I'm passionate?

SMH.

Anyway I'll read the rest of the post now, lol.

Props on that level of kino. I can't imagine just overtly touching a chick's belly first date, I'd probably get the "I'm going to report you to the cops" stare. You must be a good looking dude!
 

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Glad to see it's not just me getting the "no spark" horses***.

I've had women laughing and smiling for an entire date and then tell me "sorry, there just wasn't a spark LOL". What the f*ck do they define as a "spark" anyway? I'm supposed to whip my kn*b out first date and slap it on the table so that they know I'm passionate?

SMH.

Anyway I'll read the rest of the post now, lol.

Props on that level of kino. I can't imagine just overtly touching a chick's belly first date, I'd probably get the "I'm going to report you to the cops" stare. You must be a good looking dude!
Haha thanks ,no im average, but tall and fit. (have abs on tinder pic). Well I dont live in USA nor UK so i dont have to care this much about being sued over some meaningless thing LOL so maybe your fear is partially reasoned.
 

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Speaking of "walking" dates, how does it usually go? What sort of length of time?

I used to be a dinner date kind of guy (till the wiser guys here dissuaded me from it), but I've never done a park/walk date because it feels higher pressure to me actually.

I've had a couple of chicks ask for a walk somewhere but unless I've already established a relationship I find it far harder to talk on one.
 

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Speaking of "walking" dates, how does it usually go? What sort of length of time?

I used to be a dinner date kind of guy (till the wiser guys here dissuaded me from it), but I've never done a park/walk date because it feels higher pressure to me actually.

I've had a couple of chicks ask for a walk somewhere but unless I've already established a relationship I find it far harder to talk on one.
information exchange dates are boring and require you to actually either be interesting or have a good job to talk about. my last "walking date" was literally without any info exchange. all she knows is where I work. all the rest was kino, her talking, some other action, then her making out with me on my laps for 30min.

With all that kino, you dont really need to do any serious talk. In fact, once you put your head closer to her for the first time, she will possibly start acting very shy, talk from now involves things like "are you shy" "-isnt it too quick? - huh? im not kissing you, what is too quick?" etc. basically even smaller small talk lol.

I had this feeling "oh god what should I say now" but once i dated very ugly girl, all that presure went off, and I realised they all are the same. If you will say less, she will say more. You can say less but more clearly, loudly and slowly, and insert jokes between.

Once you get to bigger kino (or kiss) it doesnt matter what you say tbh. Just make fun of her, of situation, etc. Like she says "oh i was never in this park before" and you say "what you will do if Ill leave you then?" she will probably say she will catch you after the date, then you make fun of her saying she wants to punish you sexually or whatever.

after first big kino/kiss i literally drop all information exchange talk and only talk in this way, zero information, only jokes and teasing


last chick trusted me too much and she literally stopped kissing me to say when she first visited genecologist she said she had beautiful puvsey lol then we were kissing again. chicks say crazy things when comfortable
 
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I've done this and it worked like a charm, 2nd date though. Just got ice cream on a nice day, went to the park by a lake and sat down and talked.
As you're walking, do what op said and initiate kino when telling her where you're going.
Also if you're alone and by a forest like area, I find it funny to scare the chick and tell her that there's a dude hiding somewhere getting ready to kill us, then you grab them or hug them outta nowhere and they flip. If all is going well and you're bodies are touching as you're walking, just slip your hand into hers. Then sit down, stare at a lake or some **** and kiss.

Good post op!
 

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Good job sosousage. As I once told you, enough talk; Make It Happen.

The place of choice is irrelevant. What is relevant is your confident state. You now can take them anywhere with the same desired result.
 

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That's a great way to catch oneitis from a slut.
 

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Good work. You've put your own spin on the classics. I have rubbed girls ***** in public bars and even cafes. Girls are strange creatures you can escalate anywhere.
 

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My method:

After finding out they're available on a particular day I call or text "I wanna see you" or some variant
Any neutral to positive response I just tell them "I could pull up in (whatever time it takes)."
Otherwise I just don't respond back. Sometimes they'll cave in or just reschedule.

When I get to where ever I'm picking them up I try to immediately get something. Usually its some sort of drink that I know she won't have at her house. "I want a slurpee. Let's go to 711."

Afterwards I suggest we go back to my place for bit. How this date goes depends on how much trust you've built.
The two quickest ways to build trust with women (with no mutual friends):

1. Inside jokes. Start building these from the moment you meet her. BUT they get old quick so always be ready to build a new one. The best inside jokes come from something you both experienced (that's why it's an inside joke). Maybe you both have the same professor and you talk about how boring he is. Or you both have similar cultural backgrounds If you're both Indian then talk about Indian parents or something. If you have no experiences in common then just take anything she told you about herself and pretend it happened to you also. Inside jokes are the best way to relate to someone.

2. Promise of Commitment. While I think most of the old school pua tactics are useless, there are still a few I use like "future projection". I talk about some sort of implied future relationship in a joking kind of way. This is to help remove any doubts in her mind that I will pump and dump her.

On the date itself I just ramble about whatever, hold her hands, and make sure NOT to bring up any sexual acts. Also don't talk about the date itself while it's going on. There will be a lot of romantic tension in the air. Once I get her indoors I just go for the kiss and escalate.
 
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