Is Donald Trump An Alpha Male?

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Putin doesn't fvck pornstars, he prefers gymnasts (google Alina Kabaeva). He has never publicly admitted to having an extramarital relationship. Nor would Putin's mistress dare to discuss such things with the media. If she did, two things would happen: a) the Russian media would not cover it; and b) she would one day discover her hair, teeth, nails, etc. suddenly falling out not long after having her morning tea.

Trump has the disadvantage of working within a system where he can't just threaten to kill people (and carry out the threat when necessary). That's why he has to rely on "lame" methods like lawsuits, NDA's, etc. Having said that, Trump is more alpha than Putin. He became the president of the United States through sheer strength of personality, defeating the establishment in both political parties, all in the face of relentless negative media coverage. It doesn't get any more alpha than that. Putin was appointed to his job by Yeltsin (in return for a promise to leave Yeltsin's corrupt family alone) and since then ran in rigged elections against nominal opponents. I'm not saying Putin is not an alpha, he has clear alpha qualities as well, but I don't think he's on the same level as Trump. Trump is a self-made man in politics; Putin is not.

As for divorces, if you are a billionaire and paying a few million dollars to your ex pursuant to a prenup is just a drop in a bucket, what does it matter?
Next time I'm at the VA hospital getting shrapnel pulled out of my @ss...after having served in Panama, 1st Gulf War, 2nd Gulf War, Somalia, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia.... I'll think about what an awesome Alpha Male weak @ss b!tch Trump is with his nervous bladder draft deferment... or bad 'feet' BVLLSH!T he got when he had his time to serve in the military chicksh!t Trump fvcking wimped out like a little fvcking b!tch he is.

John McCain was TORTURED for years in a Vietnamese prison because he refused to cooperate with the enemy. And that little weak @ss b!tch Trump has the NERVE to insult him?
 
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Trump is a shark.

He is a shark living and confined within the "waters" of democracy - playing by the rules set within. He has come out top.

It must be admired.
 

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Next time I'm at the VA hospital getting shrapnel pulled out of my @ss...after having served in Panama, 1st Gulf War, 2nd Gulf War, Somalia, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia.... I'll think about what an awesome Alpha Male weak @ss b!tch Trump is with his nervous bladder draft deferment... or bad 'feet' BVLLSH!T he got when he had his time to serve in the military chicksh!t Trump fvcking wimped out like a little fvcking b!tch he is.

John McCain was TORTURED for years in a Vietnamese prison because he refused to cooperate with the enemy. And that little weak @ss b!tch Trump has the never to insult him?
I think you have a profound misunderstanding of what it means to be an alpha. It doesn't mean risking your life for your country. The cemeteries of Europe are filled with corpses of millions of men who died in the two world wars fighting for their countries. Many of them were brave, honourable, men. The vast majority of them were not alpha males (alphas form a small minority of the general population by definition). They were cannon fodder, beta males sent to certain death who followed orders without question. Self-sacrifice is a beta quality, not an alpha quality. By the way, "beat" does not mean "bad" and alpha does not mean "good". Those are just two personality types that have inherently different roles in society.

John McCain may be a brave man but he's not particularly bright and would have been a terrible president.
 
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I think you have a profound misunderstanding of what it means to be an alpha. It doesn't mean risking your life for your country. The cemeteries of Europe are filled with corpses of millions of men who died in the two world wars fighting for their countries. Many of them were brave, honourable, men. The vast majority of them were not alpha males (alphas form a small minority of the general population by definition). They were cannon fodder, beta males sent to certain death who followed orders without question. Self-sacrifice is a beta quality, not an alpha quality. By the way, "beat" does not mean "bad" and alpha does not mean "good". Those are just two personality types that have inherently different roles in society.

John McCain may be a brave man but he's not particularly bright and would have been a terrible president.
Dude.... I really do not give a rat's @ss about an average man that is not willing to risk his life for something as esoteric as country, you want to dodge the draft and get deferment for bvll****... fine... no problem, just don't ask to be Commander and Chief. If you are not willing to put country before yourself, why would anyone trust you to be President.
 
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Dude.... I really do not give a rat's @ss about an average man that is not willing to risk his life for something as esoteric as country, you want to dodge the draft and get deferment for bvll****... fine... no problem, just don't ask to be Commander and Chief. If you are not willing to put country before yourself, why would anyone trust you to be President.
Most guys that I've met that were in the military get all kinds of respect for doing nothing. Like sitting on a base in the USA, then getting called a hero.

I'll bet I've been injured worse than you have. But it doesn't count because it wasn't from the military?
 

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Dude.... I really do not give a rat's @ss about an average man that is not willing to risk his life for something as esoteric as country, you want to dodge the draft and get deferment for bvll****... fine... no problem, just don't ask to be Commander and Chief. If you are not willing to put country before yourself, why would anyone trust you to be President.
I'm not even sure what we are arguing about anymore. You don't like Trump and think he doesn't deserve to be president, I get it. That doesn't mean he's not alpha. Where is it written that an alpha has to put his country before himself?
 
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I'm not even sure what we are arguing about anymore. You don't like Trump and think he doesn't deserve to be president, I get it. That doesn't mean he's not alpha. Where is it written that an alpha has to put his country before himself?
Ranger Mike would get bossed around if he were President.
 

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I'm not even sure what we are arguing about anymore. You don't like Trump and think he doesn't deserve to be president, I get it. That doesn't mean he's not alpha. Where is it written that an alpha has to put his country before himself?
My opinion of Trump as President is not relevant.... but a weak @ss little b!tch can not be 'alpha'.

We haven't had a real man as President since GHW Bush, not Bush II... he was a weak @ss b!tch as well.

But you obviously don't get it.... I really do not give a flying FVCK if an average man puts himself ahead of country.... just don't ask to be President of the country you are not willing to put nation ahead of yourself.
 

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McCain was an admiral's son. The VC would have released him ahead of other soldiers because of that, and he knew it, so he hid that fact from them. I think that was some seriously alpha sh!t.
 

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Yes it is. Simply: he doesn't care what other think about him, he has now and whole his life his own way, he is successful, always had and have beautiful chicks so yes DT is alpha male.
 

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Anyone who thanks Putin is an alpha male is a mega beta himself who wears pink panties to bed at night.
Nice insulting other posters who disagree with you... Why am I not surprised you are a Trump supporter.

Trump spins plates when he is single or married..and the fake as hell army ranger in this thread says his wife might leave him..so what? Trump will just go get another super model to fvck ...he might even have auditions in the white house to see which porn star wants to be first lady...I guarantee you thousands will apply...
Oh so now I'm liar.... nice. Anonymity is great for people that want to toss out insults... I have to admit it's a new experience being insulted by some FA dude. I would get upset but that's just too darn funny... considering that during the 1st Gulf War I was so far forward deployed FA could not reach me... It's nice being in the rear with the gear... ain't it.
 
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Nice insulting other posters who disagree with you... Why am I not surprised you are a Trump supporter.

Oh so now I'm liar.... nice. Anonymity is great for people that want to toss out insults... I have to admit it's a new experience being insulted by some FA dude. I would get upset but that's just too darn funny... considering that during the 1st Gulf War I was so far forward deployed FA could not reach me... It's nice being in the rear with the gear... ain't it.
@PhonyRanger Now I know you were not in Desert Storm.Desert Storm was a 4 day sprint across the desert,my unit would shoot and then advance then shoot and advance over and over again we had to be pushed to the front of the advance because the Republican Guard was running (retreating back toward Baghdad) so we were killing them as they ran.I can tell you were not there because you don't know how the battle unfolded.I was in the army 20 years and I bleed green.Then I was an FO in Afghanistan spotting and killing Haqqani's guys sometimes face to face,but that's OK @ PhonyRanger you are a internet hero for sure,so stay posting on SS about how your wife left you and left you alone to raise your 2 daughters that I am sure your raising to be fine slvts..
 

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@PhonyRanger Now I know you were not in Desert Storm.Desert Storm was a 4 day sprint across the desert,my unit would shoot and then advance then shoot and advance over and over again we had to be pushed to the front of the advance because the Republican Guard was running (retreating back toward Baghdad) so we were killing them as they ran.I can tell you were not there because you don't know how the battle unfolded.I was in the army 20 years and I bleed green.Then I was an FO in Afghanistan spotting and killing Haqqani's guys sometimes face to face,but that's OK @ PhonyRanger you are a internet hero for sure,so stay posting on SS about how your wife left you and left you alone to raise your 2 daughters that I am sure your raising to be fine slvts..
What unit were you with? In Iraq and Afghanistan?

During the Gulf War I was on the Western Iraqi Border on deep recon calling in air strikes on Scud launchers that were firing into Israel WAYYYYY before the ground campaign. I was in Iraq 3 months before most of the US forces were in country and I was there 6 months after you dudes left. I was never near any US artillery units, because when the ground campaign had started my unit was sent into Northern Iraq and left after the Royal Marines took over that mission.

In Afghanistan I was a staff officer working in NATO in Kabul for 6 months back in 2004, I wasn't doing anything interesting accept logistical planning.

Was called back on active duty again and sent to Northern Iraq 3 years ago to assist the arming and training of the KRA after the ISIS invasion of Iraq... was there for 6 months beginning in October 2014. After that I retired from the reserves after 27 years of combined service. If you really were a forward observer in Afghanistan you have my respect... that was a tough job.

I have nothing to prove to you , you want think I'm a liar... I really do not give a fvck. I would be upset with your comments about my children, but I have come to expect clownish boorish behavior from Trumpeteers.... getting upset with you would be like beating a dog that hasn't been trained that tinkles on the floor. Beating a dog is easy... just like a suspect it would be with you. Carry on.
 
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Yes or no and why?
Donald Trump is not an alpha male. He is emboldened by his money and resources. You would be too if you had a few billion dollars and a million to get started with. I understand that it takes some business savvy to turn a million into a few billion but it's definitely easier with business acumen and a million, as opposed to business acumen and nothing/very little to get started. That's not saying I don't agree with how he governs the country or his business, simply that banging a playboy model, a porn star and multiple other trophy women of various types is extremely unlikely to happen if he is Donald Trump, middle manager who makes 100k a year. Perhaps it would happen anyway, but I'm betting no. Those women generally don't go for guys that don't have a huge amount of resources (or d*ck or both). And you probably wouldn't have nearly the bravado he has without those resources. That "I don't give a flying f*ck" mindset comes from having nearly infinite resources.
 

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Donald Trump is not an alpha male. He is emboldened by his money and resources. You would be too if you had a few billion dollars and a million to get started with. I understand that it takes some business savvy to turn a million into a few billion but it's definitely easier with business acumen and a million, as opposed to business acumen and nothing/very little to get started. That's not saying I don't agree with how he governs the country or his business, simply that banging a playboy model, a porn star and multiple other trophy women of various types is extremely unlikely to happen if he is Donald Trump, middle manager who makes 100k a year. Perhaps it would happen anyway, but I'm betting no. Those women generally don't go for guys that don't have a huge amount of resources (or d*ck or both). And you probably wouldn't have nearly the bravado he has without those resources. That "I don't give a flying f*ck" mindset comes from having nearly infinite resources.
You just proved why he’s alpha. The fact he has a lot of resources shows he’s alpha. For every single alpha male, you could say “well if he didn’t have muscles he wouldn’t get laid” or “if he didn’t have money he wouldn’t get laid”.
 

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Donald Trump is not an alpha male. He is emboldened by his money and resources.
This is why I say alpha is a position. What difference does it make why he is emboldened? Whatever the reason, he's emboldened. He comes from money. Someone here might be emboldened because they read a DJ forum. What's the difference as long as you have the result.

I think the argument is silly. Reminds me of all the "Is Obama alpha?", "Is Bush alpha?", "Is Clinton alpha?" posts over the years. Obviously some guys here will recognize them as alpha while others might not. It's all based on a ridiculous stereotype anyway, IMO. To me, the main point is "Women go after the #1 guy". Everything else is extrapolated from there, the bits about making yourself the center of attention, everything. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are a good president, a good American, or even a good person.
 

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You just proved why he’s alpha. The fact he has a lot of resources shows he’s alpha. For every single alpha male, you could say “well if he didn’t have muscles he wouldn’t get laid” or “if he didn’t have money he wouldn’t get laid”.
so if he didn't have a million to get started with, would he have billions? Most likely not. I guarantee you, I could turn a million into at least a few hundred million if that's what I had to get started with. That doesn't prove at all that he's alpha. Come back to me when he started with nothing, ended up with a few billion and then we can talk. Starting out with a million of someone else's money, not nearly as impressive. If he doesn't have those billions, he's not getting away with that behavior because either he wouldn't have the balls to do it or someone would stomp him out before he got that far. So please, prove to me he's an alpha, please. I'll be waiting.
 

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This is why I say alpha is a position. What difference does it make why he is emboldened? Whatever the reason, he's emboldened. He comes from money. Someone here might be emboldened because they read a DJ forum. What's the difference as long as you have the result.

I think the argument is silly. Reminds me of all the "Is Obama alpha?", "Is Bush alpha?", "Is Clinton alpha?" posts over the years. Obviously some guys here will recognize them as alpha while others might not. It's all based on a ridiculous stereotype anyway, IMO. To me, the main point is "Women go after the #1 guy". Everything else is extrapolated from there, the bits about making yourself the center of attention, everything. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are a good president, a good American, or even a good person.
But that's the point, he's not alpha because he didn't get it on his own. You go into the gym, get crazy ripped and use that confidence to bone any and all women? I've got mad respect for you. Start out with nothing and end up with a few billion due to your hard work, desire and unwillingness to accept the word no? I've got mad respect for you. Those are two great examples of real alphas. Getting ballsy after you've turned someone else's money into a fortune? Not that impressive.
 

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so if he didn't have a million to get started with, would he have billions? Most likely not. I guarantee you, I could turn a million into at least a few hundred million if that's what I had to get started with. That doesn't prove at all that he's alpha. Come back to me when he started with nothing, ended up with a few billion and then we can talk. Starting out with a million of someone else's money, not nearly as impressive. If he doesn't have those billions, he's not getting away with that behavior because either he wouldn't have the balls to do it or someone would stomp him out before he got that far. So please, prove to me he's an alpha, please. I'll be waiting.
Do you have at least 100K? If so why don’t you have over $100 million by now? Why aren’t you the President of the United States?

He’s out banging porn stars and playmates and you’re keyboard jockeying on a pickup site.

The definition of alpha is a leader. He’s the leader of the free world. I’m democrat who voted for Obama and I hate trump. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s alpha.
 
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