LTR breaks up after 4yrs despite hot and exciting lifestyle. The spark just "went away".

Steady_Eddie

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What's up boys,

my LTR ended last night and I hope this is the right place where I can unload my thoughts, get your opinion on what the f*ck actually happened, make some new friends, get back on the right track, transform back from ***** polisher to shredded beaver smasher, and go my own way.
But first things first.

First things first: I am 32 years old (she is 26 and damn hot), originally from Europe but living in Australia now. I got in touch with the red pill quite a while ago - long before I got into my, now ex, relationship. However, while I did have an exciting livestyle, went out regularily, had an intact social circle, I was never that alter ego of Chad Thunder****. However, I have been doing okay in terms of my sexual adventures ... you know, a plate here, slythering in occasionally there ... not that frequent, but a couple times a year for sure.

Four years ago I started dating my now-ex. It was pretty adventurous, we had great sex and lived a great lifestyle. Around 6 month into the relationship we rented an amazing rooftop apartment and our cosmopolitan life went on. She had a job, I had a job, and the evenings we spent ****ing, eating, travelling or enjoing the spa. Awesome!

Around 3 yrs into the relationship - the sexdrive was still there - we moved to a different city. That is, no social circle, new people, and most importantly - I was the only one with a job. She somehow was not able to connect in that new venue and kept sitting bored at home. Hell, my job was amazing and I started earning **** loads of money which I tried to spent on joint activities (jetting to rome on a weekend, no problem) because deep on my inside I knew how bored she was and, since I was the reason why she gave up her old friends, I feld I must make up for it. You can call it beta, sure, but I was just trying to get her out of the boredom. I would have done that for everyone else, too.

Anyway, here ... the spark already started dying and the frequency with what we had sex started to deteriorate exponentially. Everything else was great, we were having an amazing time (WHEN I was there). We were dreaming about going to Australia once I hit the million dollar mark in my bank account and were dreaming about it for around a full year. We should have kept ****ing instead of dreaming - but anyway.

Now this is the part where it becomes pretty ****ed up. By the age of 31 I easily surpassed the million dollar mark. I kept growing and evolving as if there is no tomorrow. Note, I was not losing and sitting at home like a boring chubby, I was just pushing the limits every day to new heights. We kept travelling every few weeks, I bought a Ferrari, sleek clothes, I had many other girls throwing an eye on me ... but even though I really believe that this lifestyle was far from beta, the tingles did not want to come back - at least this is what I anticipated since nobody has verbalized anything at that time. Anyway, I have quit my job and we finally moved to Australia. Even though we have turned monk style already, we were a pretty good team. We bought a nice Apartment in Brisbane - with a beautiful view over the Brisbane river from the 40th floor. That was around a month ago. Since that we travelled, Sydney here, Lizard Island there.

Things went down the ****ter when her best friend started dating a Chad from the club. My GF was totally into it and couldn't get off WhatsApp for hours. I guess, the imagination that it was HER who does all these new taboo experiences gave her the tingles she's been missing for over a year now.

Anyway, long story short. She told me she feels that she is missing out on the entire **** carousel thing - meeting new guys, making new experiences. She just can't believe that this was "it". As if driving around with a good looking millionair in a ****ing Ferrari was so bad - but it is how it is. I reacted like a boss and put her on the first Flight back to Europe. After a week of no contact I let myself pull into that "I think I have made a huge mistake" discussion. I have been enjoying my "time off", but eventually gave her "another chance". She came back and we ****ed - exactly once. Now, just a few days later she tells me that she only loves me "80%", that the spark is gone, that after we ****ed the last time she thought that she does not really wanna repeat it and that she does not even want to kiss me anymore. Anything else is great, it is just that she feels no attraction whatsoever for me.

What can I say, I am confused because I think I am the King in terms of lifestyle, success - maybe not in terms of looks due to the lack of a shredded appearance - but still very interesting. What is wrong with this chicca? Anyway, I booked another flight back to Europe. Probably, she will receive a frequent flyer status soon, lol.

I feel that I am a bit more down than I was when she left for the first time. I hope you guys can push me into the right direction. Also, maybe we can hamster around a bit ... was it the boredom, was it the lack of her self-development (and thus lack of self esteem), was it just the long duration of the relationship that eventually dries up any *****? What was wrong?

This text shall not come across as a rant: I genuinely like this girl and I wish her all the best. Especially to get rid of the perspectiveless boredom she felt and really develop a fulfilling career and lifestyle herself.

But what do I now?
 
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You made some mistakes along the way. You definitely lost frame, became too easy and stopped being a challenge.

Read up articles on frame control. Nothing makes a ***** more dry than a weak or nonexixstent frame.

Other than that, the horse is already dead. Move on to other girls and learn from your mistakes.

Oh and your appearance has nothing to do with why she lost attraction
 

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When a woman finds a man too easy = no challenge = lost of attraction.

When I mean too easy, I mean you gave her everything and more.

Women has to have drama in their life, those emotional yo-yo. Makes no sense, I know, it's just how their brains are wired.
 

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I think you made a thread about that a while ago.

Your thread prove the LMS is everything crowd that... they don't know much about LTR.

I feel where you lost the girl... its when she started being jealous of you... you were having a life but not her.

So she start being left out and wishing to go to the pre-you. Where everything was nice and fine for her on her terms

Did she choose to do nothing? Or she just didn't find anything?

I guess it's the second... so yeah she might loved you but she was feeling depressed and the cause of it was never adressed

You should have pop 1 kid or 2 :p to make her busy and happy.

People need goals or purpose... when you feel you don't have 1 or 2.. You need distractions...

Cause it's when you left alone that all of your issues come back alive. Introspection is hard, especially when you have nothing to do.

Like the people above: you became a provider in the mix... means... you provided easiness. So no challenge for her in the couple, added with her having nothing to do
 

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Ole Howiestern thinks could be a case of all shiny things eventually lose their luster and there wasn't strong enough mental attraction to begin with.

You place a lot of value on shiny things....your posting is riddled with it.

What about the level of mental attraction she had for you? How did she feel when you were out working all the time?
 

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what you thought was fun and exciting was not for her. The worst part about it was you were too busy to notice or care.

Life doesnt revolve around money.
 

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what you thought was fun and exciting was not for her. The worst part about it was you were too busy to notice or care.
Totally true man, thanks for the upfront critics. However, in the light of the recent developments, I am happy that I have gone this path and at least have "something" left. I know guys from my (former) social circle who ended up in a vacuum when their GF left them for the **** carousel.
 

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What is really crazy and fascinating at the same time ... She keeps switching moods at a moments notice. In one second she Is totally cold and rationalises that "it is just the best thing for us both". On the other hand, she wakes up and calls me "honey" and even asks to come to bed to "cuddle around". I cut her off, and told here that we shouldn't make things harder than they are already.

Flight goes the day after tomorrow. The thing is, I feel I am getting sucked into that beta love hole. It is really hard to sustain that momentum towards just giving in, cuddling her. I really have to fight away this "I still have hopes feeling" because in the end we all know how women's tingles work, right?

I just fear that the whole thing will pull me down! That's why I reached out to you guys!
 

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She is an average 20-something year old Western chick.

Go date other chicks and forget about this one... Oh... BTW she will be back, just play it like a DJ, fvck her, and treat her just like any other chick you are dating. DO NOT get sucked back into a relationship, and do not PURSUE a relationship.

I never cut chicks completely loose... I always answer knocks on the door. As long as they want to come into my world, and live by my rules they are welcome... the minute they become un-happy or no longer any fun... I show them the door. It really is that simple.

You are wasting WAYYYYY too much emotional energy on this chick... energy you could be using to find others that are more fun.
 

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What's up boys,

my LTR ended last night and I hope this is the right place where I can unload my thoughts, get your opinion on what the f*ck actually happened, make some new friends, get back on the right track, transform back from ***** polisher to shredded beaver smasher, and go my own way.
But first things first.

First things first: I am 32 years old (she is 26 and damn hot), originally from Europe but living in Australia now. I got in touch with the red pill quite a while ago - long before I got into my, now ex, relationship. However, while I did have an exciting livestyle, went out regularily, had an intact social circle, I was never that alter ego of Chad Thunder****. However, I have been doing okay in terms of my sexual adventures ... you know, a plate here, slythering in occasionally there ... not that frequent, but a couple times a year for sure.

Four years ago I started dating my now-ex. It was pretty adventurous, we had great sex and lived a great lifestyle. Around 6 month into the relationship we rented an amazing rooftop apartment and our cosmopolitan life went on. She had a job, I had a job, and the evenings we spent ****ing, eating, travelling or enjoing the spa. Awesome!

Around 3 yrs into the relationship - the sexdrive was still there - we moved to a different city. That is, no social circle, new people, and most importantly - I was the only one with a job. She somehow was not able to connect in that new venue and kept sitting bored at home. Hell, my job was amazing and I started earning **** loads of money which I tried to spent on joint activities (jetting to rome on a weekend, no problem) because deep on my inside I knew how bored she was and, since I was the reason why she gave up her old friends, I feld I must make up for it. You can call it beta, sure, but I was just trying to get her out of the boredom. I would have done that for everyone else, too.

Anyway, here ... the spark already started dying and the frequency with what we had sex started to deteriorate exponentially. Everything else was great, we were having an amazing time (WHEN I was there). We were dreaming about going to Australia once I hit the million dollar mark in my bank account and were dreaming about it for around a full year. We should have kept ****ing instead of dreaming - but anyway.

Now this is the part where it becomes pretty ****ed up. By the age of 31 I easily surpassed the million dollar mark. I kept growing and evolving as if there is no tomorrow. Note, I was not losing and sitting at home like a boring chubby, I was just pushing the limits every day to new heights. We kept travelling every few weeks, I bought a Ferrari, sleek clothes, I had many other girls throwing an eye on me ... but even though I really believe that this lifestyle was far from beta, the tingles did not want to come back - at least this is what I anticipated since nobody has verbalized anything at that time. Anyway, I have quit my job and we finally moved to Australia. Even though we have turned monk style already, we were a pretty good team. We bought a nice Apartment in Brisbane - with a beautiful view over the Brisbane river from the 40th floor. That was around a month ago. Since that we travelled, Sydney here, Lizard Island there.

Things went down the ****ter when her best friend started dating a Chad from the club. My GF was totally into it and couldn't get off WhatsApp for hours. I guess, the imagination that it was HER who does all these new taboo experiences gave her the tingles she's been missing for over a year now.

Anyway, long story short. She told me she feels that she is missing out on the entire **** carousel thing - meeting new guys, making new experiences. She just can't believe that this was "it". As if driving around with a good looking millionair in a ****ing Ferrari was so bad - but it is how it is. I reacted like a boss and put her on the first Flight back to Europe. After a week of no contact I let myself pull into that "I think I have made a huge mistake" discussion. I have been enjoying my "time off", but eventually gave her "another chance". She came back and we ****ed - exactly once. Now, just a few days later she tells me that she only loves me "80%", that the spark is gone, that after we ****ed the last time she thought that she does not really wanna repeat it and that she does not even want to kiss me anymore. Anything else is great, it is just that she feels no attraction whatsoever for me.

What can I say, I am confused because I think I am the King in terms of lifestyle, success - maybe not in terms of looks due to the lack of a shredded appearance - but still very interesting. What is wrong with this chicca? Anyway, I booked another flight back to Europe. Probably, she will receive a frequent flyer status soon, lol.

I feel that I am a bit more down than I was when she left for the first time. I hope you guys can push me into the right direction. Also, maybe we can hamster around a bit ... was it the boredom, was it the lack of her self-development (and thus lack of self esteem), was it just the long duration of the relationship that eventually dries up any *****? What was wrong?

This text shall not come across as a rant: I genuinely like this girl and I wish her all the best. Especially to get rid of the perspectiveless boredom she felt and really develop a fulfilling career and lifestyle herself.

But what do I now?
I can't comment on female-to-female social dynamics. They are beyond the scope of male-female social dynamics and shouldn't be conflated into one skill.
 

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I don't understand this thread

OP, your ex gf was dating you - someone who is insanely successful - probably top 0.000000000001 percentile of the world, decent looking, genuinely good person, great lifestyle, etc... and she still wasn't happy with that. Why in god's green earth would ever want to be with someone like that long term?

The second she said she was bored, you should have cut it off. Any normal woman should be very very grateful to be in that situation. The fact that she didn't try to get a job is a big red flag also - she thought you would be her long term beta provider
 

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I don't understand this thread

OP, your ex gf was dating you - someone who is insanely successful - probably top 0.000000000001 percentile of the world, decent looking, genuinely good person, great lifestyle, etc... and she still wasn't happy with that. Why in god's green earth would ever want to be with someone like that long term?

The second she said she was bored, you should have cut it off. Any normal woman should be very very grateful to be in that situation. The fact that she didn't try to get a job is a big red flag also - she thought you would be her long term beta provider
she told him clearly she wants to ride c0ck car0usel and slut around for a bit lol. seems her friend woke up a beast in her by telling these "o my gah i met a chad and he fuked me" stories.

FRIENDS influence on CHICKS is HUGE. sometimes I think most women cant think on their own, they need female friends to form opinion about anything, including finding a boyfriend, etc
 
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