[Dark Triad Game, Machaveli] Way to make your gf/plate go nuts

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Theres a way of injecting EXTREME jealousy inside your plate or gf, so she remains interested in you longer and wont be sure if you want her or not, it will make her go crazy about you.

One way to do this:
1. live in city A, have, and tell her u have EX gf in city B
2. Let ur laptop with fb logged in but closed browser or photo folder on desktop, let her see u and ur ex together, preferably in city B ( u can do this by going to toilet for couple minutes. They all check your fb lol in in such case.)
3. Go back, she wont say that she checked it to not appear as privacy invader
4. Tell her ur going to city B for couple hrs for friends meeting
5. That day dont answer phone till next day afternoon.

She will think u went to ex and spent night with her. She will go all sad, overthinking, and ask all her friends for confirmation of her theory.
 

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Yes and then she will cheat on you in revenge, even though you haven't actually cheated. Don't play these games.
I overplayed like this before and got cheated on. When I asked her why? she said she was sure I was cheating too and she wanted me to know what it feels like.
DON'T DO IT.
 

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Yes and then she will cheat on you in revenge, even though you haven't actually cheated. Don't play these games.
I overplayed like this before and got cheated on. When I asked her why? she said she was sure I was cheating too and she wanted me to know what it feels like.
DON'T DO IT.
What? Thats a bs your blue pilled mind bought. Thats her rationalization of cheating which she later make you believe in.
 

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Nah, I agree with way2smart. If she thinks you are up to something, it's only going to encourage her to cheat herself.
Anyway, you're basically telling her you are cheating yourself with this ploy, so her "rationalization" is completely justified.
She'd be a schmuck to just go along with it. There are plenty of schmucks out there though.
 

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Call me crazy but I don't think this sort of psychological abuse is "red pill", and saying it's silly is not "blue pill". Abusing your woman mentally into thinking you're cheating on her is no way to foster a healthy relationship.

I miss the days when people were just logical and f*cking good to each other. One of the reasons we're in this mess of feeling we have to pull these ridiculous mental chess games is because people who are dating are becoming incapable of just acting like decent human beings and being honest. IMO simplicity and honesty is always Route One.

The point is, if your frame is strong and you're genuinely desirable, she shouldn't want to be f*cking anyone else anyway. I don't buy all this s*** about "women can't help but cheat", it's far too general to be accurate.

On the other hand, if you're leaving your laptop open to pretend you're cheating on her and God knows what else, no wonder she f*cking cheats on you!
 

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Jealousy is not how you keep a girl. That's how you repel one. There is absolutely no reason to do this to a girl.

If you want to keep a girl interested then hang out 1-2 a week. Talk somewhat often over text, make excuses to not hangout if she asks, and don't make it seem like she's the center of your life. It's honestly not difficult.
 
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Theres a way of injecting EXTREME jealousy inside your plate or gf, so she remains interested in you longer and wont be sure if you want her or not, it will make her go crazy about you.

One way to do this:
1. live in city A, have, and tell her u have EX gf in city B
2. Let ur laptop with fb logged in but closed browser or photo folder on desktop, let her see u and ur ex together, preferably in city B ( u can do this by going to toilet for couple minutes. They all check your fb lol in in such case.)
3. Go back, she wont say that she checked it to not appear as privacy invader
4. Tell her ur going to city B for couple hrs for friends meeting
5. That day dont answer phone till next day afternoon.

She will think u went to ex and spent night with her. She will go all sad, overthinking, and ask all her friends for confirmation of her theory.
Or, she will just completely next you for another guy who is in the wings, which is exactly what her friends will tell her to do anyway. Many women tend to have back ups and aren't afraid to use them if pushed.

So, unless your girl is doing something that warrants you gas lighting her and purposely making her sad, don't do it, unless you want to get dumped for someone else who doesn't feel he needs to resort emotional manipulation to keep a girl.
 
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Could easily work the opposite just as often if not more, and I'm not saying OPs behavior is appropriate.

Yes it could, on girls with low self esteem/self worth. And then the game is to constantly keep her in a state of uncertainty, doubt, and unhappiness just to keep her around.

Borderline emotional abuse and total nastiness, imo, when anyone, male or female, resorts to sh*t behaviour to manipulate someone's feelings to purposely cause them unhappiness, just for their own benefit.

I manipulated someone before in a bad way and I felt like a piece of sh*t for it. Always regretted it.

I get that strategies are discussed and suggested here to have success with women but honestly, there should be a line around purposely making someone feel sad, bad, emotionally unwell for no reason other than to keep them in your pocket.

That says a lot about a person who would do that, and not good things.

Sorry if that offends the OP, I think there are other ways of having success with women.

Guys with options and or/ who don't revolve their happiness around women don't do stuff like pretend to be cheating just to keep a girl around.

I don't know you OP, but I think that kind of behaviour can make you look like a weirdo. It's up there with women pretending to be pregnant. It's actually BPD level stuff.
 

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Yes it could, on girls with low self esteem/self worth. And then the game is to constantly keep her in a state of uncertainty, doubt, and unhappiness just to keep her around.

Borderline emotional abuse and total nastiness, imo, when anyone, male or female, resorts to sh*t behaviour to manipulate someone's feelings to purposely cause them unhappiness, just for their own benefit.

I manipulated someone before in a bad way and I felt like a piece of sh*t for it. Always regretted it.

I get that strategies are discussed and suggested here to have success with women but honestly, there should be a line around purposely making someone feel sad, bad, emotionally unwell for no reason other than to keep them in your pocket.

That says a lot about a person who would do that, and not good things.

Sorry if that offends the OP, I think there are other ways of having success with women.

Guys with options and or/ who don't revolve their happiness around women don't do stuff like pretend to be cheating just to keep a girl around.

I don't know you OP, but I think that kind of behaviour can make you look like a weirdo. It's up there with women pretending to be pregnant. It's actually BPD level stuff.
I think i have stated somewhere that IMO cheating on a woman is equal to cheating on a cheater and thus - accepted. Althrough its reasons are not manipulation but safety net. One cheats or leaves you and you lose nothing. In comparison to having one girlfriend, then crying 3yrs depressed after she cheats on you with some random. I dont tnink it has anything to do with male bpd. Rather with better safe than sorry attitude. Its smarter to prevent than to heal.

And that little manipulation trick id put in plate management lmao.

In fact women crave that emotional rollercoaster, why not give them what they want? Otherwise they might, and do regularly to other guys, leave you, if if they feel too safe.

I think woman pretending to be pregnant is attention whoring, while this trick, is not
 

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What I'm trying to figure out is y you would bother? It smells of oneitis. Girls are like cats enjoy them when they're around. If she disappears go get another cat they are all grey in the dark.
 

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I think i have stated somewhere that IMO cheating on a woman is equal to cheating on a cheater and thus - accepted
Where does this "every woman cheats so you have to cheat first" nonsense come from? I'm going to say it now in no uncertain terms: it's complete bullsh*t and I can't believe I keep seeing it being bandied about by several posters here. To me it just comes across as a pathetic attempt to justify immoral (and often borderline psychopathic) behaviour from the men themselves.

"Psychopathic behaviour" may seem like a strong description, but IMO that's exactly what things like this are.

- Lack of empathy? Yes. You don't give a s*** about her feelings to do this.
- Putting your personal satisfaction above the well-being of someone you're meant to be close with.
- Paranoia (illogically assuming she's going to cheat inevitably)
- A constant need for stimulation and attention (GOT TO KEEP HER JEALOUS BY LYING!!)

Do all men commit murder eventually? Are all men thieves by nature? Is everyone in a court of law guilty before being given a fair trial? If I made any of those silly assertions, it would roundly be recognised as ridiculous garbage. But all women cheat 100% of the time and it's inevitable? Yeah, must be true, sure.

Saying women are naturally polygamous and can never be loyal is like saying all men are dumb apes that have to f*ck every single woman they meet, no matter how ugly she is.

This isn't a problem with women all being cheating, heartless harpies. This is a problem with guys treating them like utter s*** with games like this, wondering why they cheat on them and then extrapolating that to all women because they treat every woman they get with the same and have the same problems.

Being a DJ, socialising smart and having plates is one thing...elaborate lies and ruses designed to psychologically abuse and manipulate someone is completely different on a moral level.

Also yes, it is attention wh*ring. You're doing all this to get her attention, it's really no different from a chick playing mind games...in a way it's even worse, because you've pre-meditated it to a crazy extent.
 

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Where does this "every woman cheats so you have to cheat first" nonsense come from? I'm going to say it now in no uncertain terms: it's complete bullsh*t and I can't believe I keep seeing it being bandied about by several posters here. To me it just comes across as a pathetic attempt to justify immoral (and often borderline psychopathic) behaviour from the men themselves.

"Psychopathic behaviour" may seem like a strong description, but IMO that's exactly what things like this are.

- Lack of empathy? Yes. You don't give a s*** about her feelings to do this.
- Putting your personal satisfaction above the well-being of someone you're meant to be close with.
- Paranoia (illogically assuming she's going to cheat inevitably)
- A constant need for stimulation and attention (GOT TO KEEP HER JEALOUS BY LYING!!)

Do all men commit murder eventually? Are all men thieves by nature? Is everyone in a court of law guilty before being given a fair trial? If I made any of those silly assertions, it would roundly be recognised as ridiculous garbage. But all women cheat 100% of the time and it's inevitable? Yeah, must be true, sure.

Saying women are naturally polygamous and can never be loyal is like saying all men are dumb apes that have to f*ck every single woman they meet, no matter how ugly she is.

This isn't a problem with women all being cheating, heartless harpies. This is a problem with guys treating them like utter s*** with games like this, wondering why they cheat on them and then extrapolating that to all women because they treat every woman they get with the same and have the same problems.

Being a DJ, socialising smart and having plates is one thing...elaborate lies and ruses designed to psychologically abuse and manipulate someone is completely different on a moral level.

Also yes, it is attention wh*ring. You're doing all this to get her attention, it's really no different from a chick playing mind games...in a way it's even worse, because you've pre-meditated it to a crazy extent.
its for safety. you store money in single bank, because it probably wont get robbed. however theres a small chance it will be robbed, so you divide your money and put it in 3-4 banks instead.


same situation with women, she might cheat or she might not, but why not prevent being influenced by this? for own safety
 

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Jealousy is a destructive emotion to a woman’s mental health. A small tinge of it is good for attraction, but dropping the nuke right off the bat is just dumb.

And the whole deal triad bull**** is overrated. It’s such a limited mindset because it doesn’t allow you to think long term. Give me any sociopath/psychopath and I can teach them a thing or two about manipulation and eventually teach them to be normal. Nowadays people are too smart when it comes to this type of thing and don’t give anyone the opportunity to manipulate unless the person is an actual idiot or the manipulator is of celebrity status. Otherwise it’s bull****. I speak from experience with this one. It’s only good for the short term. Over time though, people begin to avoid you. And it’s also weak too.

There’s too many variables in this than I care to explain. Becoming a sociopath is only good for evening The playing fields when someone starts to play dirty, but you should never be the one to start doing it first, lest you risk pitting others against you should a third party get involved.

Dude, you’re just talking about something that you have no real grasp of. Don’t talk about a concept that you don’t understand. This is better than the blue pill, but still weak nonetheless. Don’t ever teach men to be weak. That’s retarded.
 
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I think i have stated somewhere that IMO cheating on a woman is equal to cheating on a cheater and thus - accepted. Althrough its reasons are not manipulation but safety net. One cheats or leaves you and you lose nothing. In comparison to having one girlfriend, then crying 3yrs depressed after she cheats on you with some random. I dont tnink it has anything to do with male bpd. Rather with better safe than sorry attitude. Its smarter to prevent than to heal.

And that little manipulation trick id put in plate management lmao.

In fact women crave that emotional rollercoaster, why not give them what they want? Otherwise they might, and do regularly to other guys, leave you, if if they feel too safe.

I think woman pretending to be pregnant is attention whoring, while this trick, is not
The average non damaged woman does not crave an emotional roller coster in the context that you are describing, which is, creating sadness, mistrust and doubt by thinking you are cheating on them. I can't think of a single cognitively intact woman who would crave that.

I think you want to use a strategy that protects your feelings.
Your strategy is not to 'manage plates' but to make YOU feel safe. I'm hoping that's what it is and not you just enjoying hurting women who did nothing to deserve it other than sleep with you and be female.

It's only human to want to protect feelings, but the method that you are suggesting is neurotic and is literally no different than a woman pulling the same crap.

Sorry but it really is weird to pretend to be cheating on someone. I just don't see the sanity in that.

And if you think cheating on a woman is equal to cheating on a cheater, then you assume all women are cheaters which is sad as there is no proof that they are, or, you are using that opinion to justify doing messed up things like pretending to cheat just to mess with some girls head in an effort to keep her around.

I don't know man. Wow just wow. I hope you have other tricks up your sleeve but good luck.
 

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The average non damaged woman does not crave an emotional roller coster in the context that you are describing, which is, creating sadness, mistrust and doubt by thinking you are cheating on them. I can't think of a single cognitively intact woman who would crave that.

I think you want to use a strategy that protects your feelings.
Your strategy is not to 'manage plates' but to make YOU feel safe. I'm hoping that's what it is and not you just enjoying hurting women who did nothing to deserve it other than sleep with you and be female.

It's only human to want to protect feelings, but the method that you are suggesting is neurotic and is literally no different than a woman pulling the same crap.

Sorry but it really is weird to pretend to be cheating on someone. I just don't see the sanity in that.

And if you think cheating on a woman is equal to cheating on a cheater, then you assume all women are cheaters which is sad as there is no proof that they are, or, you are using that opinion to justify doing messed up things like pretending to cheat just to mess with some girls head in an effort to keep her around.

I don't know man. Wow just wow. I hope you have other tricks up your sleeve but good luck.
why you make me the evil one? rotfl. there was a deep analysis of marriages in UK through a decade and in 90% of marriages man was the better financially part of marriage. 90% of women married riched guy than they are. you can smoothly generalise and make 100% out of 90%.

Now question is, why would you NOT cheat on woman regularly if theres always possibility that someone much better financially than you will come around and your woman will monkey branch?

if 90% of them is after money, and you cant always be the richest one, in fact, most of us will never be in the rich part of society, so why not simply do it beforehanded? they would cheat and leave you if someone richer came around. 90% of them would do so. you too. afterwards women would rationalize and tell around how she wasnt happy in her previous relationship rotfl

im not making up this number. its 90%.
 

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Theres a way of injecting EXTREME jealousy inside your plate or gf, so she remains interested in you longer and wont be sure if you want her or not, it will make her go crazy about you.

One way to do this:
1. live in city A, have, and tell her u have EX gf in city B
2. Let ur laptop with fb logged in but closed browser or photo folder on desktop, let her see u and ur ex together, preferably in city B ( u can do this by going to toilet for couple minutes. They all check your fb lol in in such case.)
3. Go back, she wont say that she checked it to not appear as privacy invader
4. Tell her ur going to city B for couple hrs for friends meeting
5. That day dont answer phone till next day afternoon.

She will think u went to ex and spent night with her. She will go all sad, overthinking, and ask all her friends for confirmation of her theory.
That's too much, all I have to do is be seen bantering/having a good time with another girl and sh!t gets real!
 

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don't make it seem like she's the center of your life. It's honestly not difficult.
Especially if you actually have sh!t going on.
 
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why you make me the evil one? rotfl. there was a deep analysis of marriages in UK through a decade and in 90% of marriages man was the better financially part of marriage. 90% of women married riched guy than they are. you can smoothly generalise and make 100% out of 90%.

Now question is, why would you NOT cheat on woman regularly if theres always possibility that someone much better financially than you will come around and your woman will monkey branch?

if 90% of them is after money, and you cant always be the richest one, in fact, most of us will never be in the rich part of society, so why not simply do it beforehanded? they would cheat and leave you if someone richer came around. 90% of them would do so. you too. afterwards women would rationalize and tell around how she wasnt happy in her previous relationship rotfl

im not making up this number. its 90%.
That's because men still generally make more money than women. So it's not surprising that in many marriages, the husband makes more.

I don't think you're evil btw, not at all. I just don't think you understand women very well. Sorry no offence.
 

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That's because men still generally make more money than women. So it's not surprising that in many marriages, the husband makes more.

I don't think you're evil btw, not at all. I just don't think you understand women very well. Sorry no offence.
no thats bs. women earn as much as men. otherwise boss woudl be called sexist mysoginist and that would be end for any company. any place i worked in uk women earned as much as men.

im sorry but the numbers dont lie.I can give you the link to source, but right now you are making up some rationalizations like typical woman when accused of doing wrong rotfl. "thats because women earn less than men" no thats because "all women want a rich guy, and will not hesitate to cheat, when such option comes around"
 
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