Sticking point: Boring Conversation

[devilkingx2]

Yea, I date between 26 - 37. I am not sure that will go over well. Though, I can usually tell their boob size by looking at their chest as well. As long as they are not hanging, I am fine. It's when you get the women who have huge boobs, and then you see them hanging down to the stomach. Kills the whole boob thing.

well lets go back to what I actually said in my first post in this thread:

It's very simple, ask a question you want the answer to.

If you don't care don't ask until you need to know.

that's the actual core of my conversation advice, you'd instead ask about [insert thing you care about here] or if it's personal/weird/intimate you'd build up to asking her that with a series of normal but increasingly personal/weird/intimate stuff til you get to your real question

so the question is, when you meet a new woman or are talking to one you don't already know perfectly well, what do you actually want to know?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

when you meet a new woman or are talking to one you don't already know perfectly well, what do you actually want to know?

I am rarely in this position, but I don't know that I want to know anything.

I may even assume that I already know a fair bit about her given that she shares 99.99% of her DNA with everybody else.

 

[devilkingx2]

I am rarely in this position, but I don't know that I want to know anything.

I may even assume that I already know a fair bit about her given that she shares 99.99% of her DNA with everybody else.

I knew a girl who owned her own business, she would never tell me anything about it really, but it apparently had her traveling to multiple countries and made her a lot of money, i think you'd have a lot to talk to her about.

I know a girl who insisted that she had no gag reflex and could deepthroat absolutely anything, she constantly bragged about it and prided herself on it. Actually wait, i know two girls who made that claim. I think you'd have a lot to discuss with either of them

Etc. There's plenty of things if you look hard enough. I'm sure there's not only one girl in the world with an interest in business or real estate, and there's not only two girls in the world interested in deepthroating a huge penis, now you just gotta find them, and how will you find out about a girl's interest in business? You have to ask about it, and have a conversation that leads you there

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I knew a girl who owned her own business, she would never tell me anything about it really, but it apparently had her traveling to multiple countries and made her a lot of money, i think you'd have a lot to talk to her about.

I know a girl who insisted that she had no gag reflex and could deepthroat absolutely anything, she constantly bragged about it and prided herself on it. Actually wait, i know two girls who made that claim. I think you'd have a lot to discuss with either of them

Etc. There's plenty of things if you look hard enough. I'm sure there's not only one girl in the world with an interest in business or real estate, and there's not only two girls in the world interested in deepthroating a huge penis, now you just gotta find them, and how will you find out about a girl's interest in business? You have to ask about it, and have a conversation that leads you there

True, but I wouldn't necessarily care if a girl was interested in real estate or business. That doesn't make me more attracted to them.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

True, but I wouldn't necessarily care if a girl was interested in real estate or business. That doesn't make me more attracted to them.

You'd be more Interested in one whose works in a warehouse or fast food?

 

[StrayCat]

You'd be more Interested in one whose works in a warehouse or fast food?

Frogman is just interested in getting his d!ck wet, nothing more. Which, is fine. But I experience many women are closed off and do not really talk much about themselves. This last one I was with, didn't seem to want to talk much about herself so we had several silent moments. That's one of the reasons why I am trying to figure out what else to talk about when they are stand-offish or the quiet type. Even after 2 months, I was unable to get to to expand on her dreams, goals and what she did for work. Not the first time either. Maybe they just do not know what they want? If then, what do you talk about?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You'd be more Interested in one whose works in a warehouse or fast food?

I would just choose based on looks. Doesn't matter if she's a stripper, doctor, lawyer, or unemployed.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I would just choose based on looks. Doesn't matter if she's a stripper, doctor, lawyer, or unemployed.

I wouldn't. The ones who can't understand your struggle will usually use you and be a problem.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I wouldn't. The ones who can't understand your struggle will usually use you and be a problem.

Which struggle? The struggle to get women?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Which struggle? The struggle to get women?

Your path to increasing success. Most warehouse, fast food and strippers will only see you as a "come up". If you want a relationship your better with someone who can relate. I think your always going to have issues relating to the less educated types. Even for just sex. They aren't going to like you and will want to be paid.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Your path to increasing success. Most warehouse, fast food and strippers will only see you as a "come up". If you want a relationship your better with someone who can relate. I think your always going to have issues relating to the less educated types. Even for just sex. They aren't going to like you and will want to be paid.

True. But don't forget that my dad got me started.

If not for that, I don't know where I'd be.

I got extremely lucky. But that's not to say I don't work 7 days/week now that I'm started.

 

[devilkingx2]

True, but I wouldn't necessarily care if a girl was interested in real estate or business. That doesn't make me more attracted to them.

but it gives you something to talk about

regardless if a businesswoman isn't your thing then you need to find out what your thing is, screen for that thing and then talk to the women who have it

I enjoy talking to any woman who is different than other women, I search for women who are unique in a non-bad way and in my quest I've seen some weird **** and had some interesting conversations

if you can't figure out what it is you want to know/talk about/hear about/find out then you'll never be good at conversation

imagine trying to get somewhere without knowing where you want to go.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

but it gives you something to talk about

regardless if a businesswoman isn't your thing then you need to find out what your thing is, screen for that thing and then talk to the women who have it

I enjoy talking to any woman who is different than other women, I search for women who are unique in a non-bad way and in my quest I've seen some weird **** and had some interesting conversations

if you can't figure out what it is you want to know/talk about/hear about/find out then you'll never be good at conversation

imagine trying to get somewhere without knowing where you want to go.

I'm usually just interested in physical. Hence why I always go to Hooters, strip clubs, etc.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm usually just interested in physical. Hence why I always go to Hooters, strip clubs, etc.

Do you know what types those ladies go for? They go for guys their social circle talks about and they screw celebrities if they can. They are h0es. It's the norm.

You can't go fishing and force a catfish to go after bait meant for a large mouth bass.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Do you know what types those ladies go for? They go for guys their social circle talks about and they screw celebrities if they can. They are h0es. It's the norm.

You can't go fishing and force a catfish to go after bait meant for a large mouth bass.

I think celebrities are pretty rare.

A millionaire who drives a Lamborghini isn't good enough?

The few times I've seen the boyfriends of Hooters girls, they haven't been all that impressive.

 

[devilkingx2]

I'm usually just interested in physical. Hence why I always go to Hooters, strip clubs, etc.

then find a woman who likes sex and make it your mission to find out what kind of freaky **** she's into, although you'll want to run it by us first so we can help you remain subtle and tactful at the beginning phases

 

[RichardTheFrog]

then find a woman who likes sex and make it your mission to find out what kind of freaky **** she's into, although you'll want to run it by us first so we can help you remain subtle and tactful at the beginning phases

I have dirty, nasty talks with girls on SA every day. Not so much in person, though.

What's freaky? There's only so many things that can be done. It's all old news to me.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think celebrities are pretty rare.

A millionaire who drives a Lamborghini isn't good enough?

The few times I've seen the boyfriends of Hooters girls, they haven't been all that impressive.

Their guy friend who they went to high school with whose playing in college or made the pros. They stick with their same circle. The hard working guy like you that they don't relate nor none of their friends know they'll get your bread while fvcking their guy they chill with that smokes too much weed and is not highly motivated and full of ****. Actually stereotypically the types your talking about stay in "high school" mentality forever. Im telling you something man. I know those types and friendly with a few. I'd have the same frustration as you. Also the "small talk" and slang you hate, that's their basic language. You'd be "too smart" they wouldn't like you.

Those girls would be full of $hit. The "mean girls" game. Their basically club girls. Player supreme gave a framework that works on those types.

If you had a look they would like and the rumor of a big D1ck they'd want to find out.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Their guy friend who they went to high school with whose playing in college or made the pros. They stick with their same circle. They hard working guy with you that they don't relate to they'll get your bread while fvcking their guy they chill with that smokes too much weed and is not highly motivated and full of ****. Actually stereotycally the types your talking about stay in "high school" mentality forever. Im telling you something man. I know those types and friendly with a few. I'd have the same frustration as you.

Yea when I was in Miami at a strip club, I noticed some of the girls smoking with guys in their cars while on break. Oh well. Still worth trying.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yea when I was in Miami at a strip club, I noticed some of the girls smoking with guys in their cars while on break. Oh well. Still worth trying.

It's been tried. You'll have a better shot as a drug dealer with those types. They shoot down folks outside of their reality. If somehow you "penetrated" that group other girls would check you out. You personally would find them to be full of drama and bull.