Help me out sosuave, Rate my appearance

[TheMonkeyKing]

20 pounds? I hope that doesn't turn me into a stick figure.

As for the subject of harshness, i suppose it's better to hear it here than to have a girl laugh in my face because I'm too ugly to be in her presence or something.

I won't discourage being harsh if it's an honest opinion, sugar coating it wouldn't get me laid. (although i am kind of easily discouraged and defeatist so if you were all harsh I'd have given up on women and finally subscribed to pornhub premium)

We are not here to criticise, but help, as you asked. I think my analogy wqs pretty fair and quite realistic. Small changes make a world of difference. You can easily be an 8 in a few months with a bit of dedication. Most of all, I would work on being real in the moment. No more fqke smiles. Smile and grin when you feel it. Otherwise you're just another phoney people pleaser.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Regards the weight issue. You don't need to loose weight necessarily. Just tone up.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Do all the things they've told me to do.

Wardrobe consultant, nutritionist, personal trainer, etc.

Thumbtack app is your friend here.

 

[Grit-Persist]

I think it should be a damn requirement that guys who dish out advice on here do the following:

- POST a pic of themselves

- POST pics of them with plates

This is why the Manosphere has little credibility and a bad reputation, because 85% of the dudes in the Manosphere are unattractive, broke dudes who want to hide behind "gynocentrism" as an excuse for why they are "going their own way".......when the TRUTH is that they are going their own way because NO chick wants to date their ugly a.ss

 

[devilkingx2]

Wardrobe consultant, nutritionist, personal trainer, etc.

I'm not a millionaire fam, but i get what you mean

Thumbtack app is your friend here.

Ooh i didn't even know that existed, thank you!

 

[Trainwreck]

Okay time to get serious about this topic lol. I sent your pics to my ex I’m still banging on the side. Yes, I’m going to approach the elephant in the room because it does “matter”. What type of women are you going for. Every woman, Black, white, Hispanic, emo, etc? What is your job and hobbies? Where do you live? What car you drive? Do you primarily use day game, Bars, Tinder, or social circle to find women? Are you a Virgin or how many women have you had sex with. Be honest!

 

[devilkingx2]

What type of women are you going for. Every woman, Black, white, Hispanic, emo, etc?

I try not to have a type, i don't like to limit my options, I'll approach any girl if i think she meets my standards.

What is your job and hobbies?

Job? None. I get a lot of financial aid so i can go to college without working a side job if i don't want to, probably gonna get an internship or something for the summer though

Hobbies? I used to play pool, i used to play handball, oh and volleyball. currently though i don't hang out with the people i knew who liked to do those things... So i play video games and watch anime at home in my free time.

Where do you live? What car you drive?

New york city, i don't drive (can't afford a car, don't have a license, live in a place with expensive hard to find parking but robust public transportation)

Do you primarily use day game, Bars, Tinder, or social circle to find women?

Never had any luck with tinder, my social circles fell apart ages ago and the ones i have now are pretty much all guys, so mostly daygame on a college campus (in like 2.5 months I'll be old enough to go to bars so there too)

 

[Grit-Persist]

Job? None.

Hobbies? I play video games and watch anime at home in my free time.

I don't drive (can't afford a car, don't have a license)

Never had any luck with tinder, my social circles fell apart ages ago and the ones i have now are pretty much all guys

His looks aren't good, his personality isn't good, he has no job, no car, his hobbies are horrible/time wasting, and he has no women in his life.

BUT this is the guy that's up here preaching theories to other grown men on this website ? Someone make THAT make sense. Also someone please make sense for me why this person is even ON this website, when he has a SHYT LOAD of things he has to be doing and working on right now??

 

[Trainwreck]

Tbh man, ur probably better off finding some anime similar white,asian, Mexican girl or going after some sjw white woman. You’re not masculine enough in “girls eyes” to be taken seriously by most black women. I don’t see you getting any action from basic white girls like my ex. She didn’t give you a good rating btw You seem to have a unique set of interests and hobbies so try reaching out to those venues.

 

[guru1000]

Tenacity, why so hard on the young man? He knows what he needs to work on.

There is a difference between constructive feedback and deleterious insults. The former builds up, the latter breaks down ... permanently.

You are creating resentment, not motivation in the young man. What’s the deal?

 

[Grit-Persist]

Tenacity, why so hard on the young man? He knows what he needs to work on.

There is a difference between constructive feedback and deleterious insults. The former builds up, the latter breaks down ... permanently.

You are creating resentment, not motivation in the young man. What’s the deal?

Because he's not listening. My question is why are you so SOFT on him?

 

[guru1000]

Because he's not listening. My question is why are you so SOFT on him?

He opened the thread for constructive feedback in his appearance. That, he received.

Now if he comes back a year or two from now asking for advice with women and has taken no steps to better himself, then you can have at him ... in a constructive way.

The way you try to motivate can drive certain young men to suicide if their insides are not right. Not everybody has the inner core of a Tenacity or Guru. Tread carefully.

 

[Grit-Persist]

He opened the thread for constructive feedback in his appearance. That, he received.

Lol, he has NOT received it. Everything I told him, he's not doing any of it yet. He's still going on doing what he was doing. Case in point, he shouldn't even have time to post on here. He's 20 with no job, no car, in college, and no dating prospects? ALL of his time should be spent in the gym, navigating his career path, finding an entry level position, building his credit, and approaching women and going through the cycle of rejection/acceptance over and over again. He should have NO time to be on here.

The way you try to motivate can drive certain young men to suicide if their insides are not right. Not everybody has the inner core of a Tenacity or Guru. Tread carefully.

Fvck that. He's black. The reality is as a black man he's going to have to FIGHT harder to get where he wants in life compared to other races. That's just the way it is. He has no time to be feeling sorry for himself. He needs to start building right now. If he takes ACTION right now....by the time he's 25, he will be kicking serious (and I mean serious) a.ss

 

[guru1000]

Lol, he has NOT received it. Everything I told him, he's not doing any of it yet.

How do you know? In arguendo, even if he didn't, maybe it was your delivery which creates resentment not motivation.

Fvck that. He's black. The reality is as a black man he's going to have to FIGHT harder to get where he wants in life compared to other races. That's just the way it is. He has no time to be feeling sorry for himself. He needs to start building right now. If he takes ACTION right now....by the time he's 25, he will be kicking serious (and I mean serious) a.ss

Much better.

 

[devilkingx2]

His looks aren't good, his personality isn't good, he has no job, no car, his hobbies are horrible/time wasting, and he has no women in his life.

Well i can't do anything about my style until the end of march or so. Aside from wearing different outfits that i already own.

I can practice taking better selfies and post some newer efforts?

my hair looks less like a flat top now, got the top cut down lower

My personality is fine, losing weight and working out takes months so don't expect to see me 20 pounds lighter tomorrow lol, and my hobbies are fun.

Relax fam.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

His looks aren't good, his personality isn't good, he has no job, no car, his hobbies are horrible/time wasting, and he has no women in his life.

BUT this is the guy that's up here preaching theories to other grown men on this website ? Someone make THAT make sense. Also someone please make sense for me why this person is even ON this website, when he has a SHYT LOAD of things he has to be doing and working on right now??

Everyone has different advice and experiences to offer on here. A guy who has problems with one part of dating/pickup might be good at giving advice on LTRs, or whatever.

Maybe King doesn't have his look down yet (or even the "DJ lifestyle"), but this isn't a site purely for accomplished DJs to circlej**k each other off about how great they are with dating and women and being part of the boy's club. It's a site for both accomplished, strong, confident men and men who are aspiring to be like that equally.

This is why I like reading the posts of accomplished DJs like Amante, while at the same time I like pitching in to offer assistance to guys who have flaws I used to have myself and fixed. It's perfectly fine for the guy to ask for help here, and it's perfectly fine for him to offer advice on things he's more confident about - we can take or leave that advice, after all.

 

[Grit-Persist]

Everyone has different advice and experiences to offer on here. A guy who has problems with one part of dating/pickup might be good at giving advice on LTRs, or whatever.

Maybe King doesn't have his look down yet (or even the "DJ lifestyle"), but this isn't a site purely for accomplished DJs to circlej**k each other off about how great they are with dating and women and being part of the boy's club. It's a site for both accomplished, strong, confident men and men who are aspiring to be like that equally.

This is why I like reading the posts of accomplished DJs like Amante, while at the same time I like pitching in to offer assistance to guys who have flaws I used to have myself and fixed. It's perfectly fine for the guy to ask for help here, and it's perfectly fine for him to offer advice on things he's more confident about - we can take or leave that advice, after all.

Look.....If I was broke, with no car, no decent income stream, no credit lines, and women routinely are rating me as unattractive (based on the Photofeeler along with other guys here sharing the pic with their female counterparts).....that means I have WORK to do, right?

- Building your career takes time. You have to build a network, find out your skills, try this job, try that job, try this sector, try that sector, etc., etc., until you have found your particular niche.

- Learning about various financial management aspects such as active or passive investing, budgets, taxes, etc., takes time.

- Working out and eating right takes time.

- Getting a decent rotation of women takes time, through you constantly meeting them on a daily basis.

- Finishing your college degree(s) take time and study.

So with these five listings above, if the OP was REALLY on the grind with these, there's no fvcking way he would have time to be on this website like he does.

"Tenacity" can take a break and post here, because the above is already in place. I'm just maintaining it. But when you have to BUILD IT from the ground up, that's takes time, time that you don't have to waste posting on this fvcking website about "Game".

So no, I'm not changing my tone and I'm not going easy on him. Log off this fvcking website and go build your social network, business network, career path, and approach at least 5 NEW WOMEN PER DAY.

When he gets into the process of doing that, time will FLY BY and he will not have time to post here like he does now....which he does during his "breaks" from playing Call Of Duty all fvcking day.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Look.....If I was broke, with no car, no decent income stream, no credit lines, and women routinely are rating me as unattractive (based on the Photofeeler along with other guys here sharing the pic with their female counterparts).....that means I have WORK to do, right?

Not debating your points, he needs to do some work. I just don't think needing work on yourself disqualifies yourself from being able to post here.

I haven't had a "proper" GF for a year, but my advice on here is frequently well received and gets a lot of likes because by and large, it's pretty sensible and works. I've had guys inboxing me telling me I've got them laid.

At the same time, I post threads where I struggle with some "basic" stuff. This is because my "LTR" and relationship skills are good, but my attraction and seduction skills (i.e. the whole core of game) needs work and advice.

King can spend more time at the gym and improve, at the same time if he has a good answer to someone's question there's no harm in him posting it. Though I can see why it irks somewhat when he's telling others to do what he needs to do himself. But I think for a 20 year old guy he's got his head on straight, he just needs to get on it.

(As for Photofeeler...I'm not convinced as to how useful or accurate it is personally. Maybe I'm unphotogenic but my ratings on there are universally dogs***, even when I'm rocking a look that has girls turning their heads when I'm out. I've seen photos of guys who look like w*nk and they're 80% attractive, which is ridiculous. But yeah, I guess getting himself good ratings on there can't hurt).

 

[Grit-Persist]

Not debating your points, he needs to do some work. I just don't think needing work on yourself disqualifies yourself from being able to post here.

Depends on what the posting is about. If the posting is about a journal you have that's tracking your progress, that's excellent! Similar to my fitness journal here, where I documented my entire road to the 6 pack Abs: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/tenacitys-pictures-view-and-post-opinions.225546/

But if you are posting advice about the best ways to attract women, yet, women are rating you unattractive across the board, isn't that insane? And it's not just PhotoFeeler, other members here shared the OP's pics with women in their social circle and they said the same thing.

It's fake, it's phony, and it's the main problem with The Manosphere. It's why NO ONE takes us seriously when we discuss issues with Men's Rights. The default response is always: "Ohhh, they are just mad they are ugly and can't get laid." Where do you think that default response originated from? It originated from people like the OP, who debates "how to get laid" and "the market of women" yet the guy is personally fvcking unattractive.