Are you afraid to insult women?

[TheProspect]

He said things like "That is not who I am", "I am sorry", "I am embarrassed by my behavior", "I am disappointed in myself".

I'm actually expecting the same remorseful words verbatim from @Grit-Persist in his next post.

 

[BeExcellent]

I'm actually expecting the same remorseful words verbatim from @Grit-Persist in his next post.

I respect Tenacity. I really do. But don't hold your breath, lol

 

[Red Legg]

I see a lot of posts lately about guys experiencing abuse from women. These are my thoughts on the subject...

Most guys would not hesitate to insult a man to their face if that man deserves it. But with women, most guys are afraid to do it. The BLUE PILL advice given to men on how to handle bitches consists of:

- Just smile and walk away
- Stay calm and positive
- Ignore her

On the other hand.. most women don't hesitate to insult men for minor infractions. Its very common to hear women call men names such as:

- Pig
- Creep
- Douche bag
- Ass hole
- Pervert
- Man-child
- Weirdo
- Immature
- Stupid
- Loser

Many of these men have done nothing to the woman to deserve these insults other than lacking the LMS and SMV for her to be attracted to him and respect him lol.

Your average woman can't or won't tolerate the level of abuse she dishes out to men.

*Blue Pill = Injustice and double standards are ok because "karma" will handle it
*Red Pill = Either f*ck or get f*cked. Pick one.

*Blue Pill = Be a robot no matter what a woman does. It makes you more attractive
*Red Pill = You can get away with almost anything if you have high SMV...

I found your post funny because right now I am talking to a woman who loves to be insulted/shamed,you guessed it I found her on OLD.She told me I could call her anything I wanted so I started the first couple of days with B!tch,slvt,cvunt...just the basics.I then demanded she send me a picture.She sent me a nude.(she was cute but I noticed that she had a skin condition (she was white with brown "spots" or "blotches") so I started calling her a mooo cow.I thought she might ghost me when I sent the text but she loved it (even though she said to stop it) I met her two days later and fvcked her,The whole time making her "moooo" with delight.

 

[Urbanyst]

You are welcome to your opinion as am I and everyone else here. You are also welcome to ignore me. It makes no difference. You have good points and much of what you think holds water, IMO. I disagree with where you focus so much on LMS to the exclusion of other skill sets, but that's cool. It's certainly nothing personal.

I learn new things every day. The content of my posts here can be seen and everyone is welcome to form an opinion based on the body of that content. It is impossible to portray ones self in a deluded manner for a long period of time. The consistency of the experiences I post are as consistent as they are because they are true. I'm too lazy to work that hard spinning lies for a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet, (although I appreciate having had the opportunity to become acquainted with a number of members here and I find folks here to be pretty great people more often than not.)

The boyfriend insisted on taking me to dinner tonight. I was quiet, which for me is unusual. He said things like "That is not who I am", "I am sorry", "I am embarrassed by my behavior", "I am disappointed in myself" and various variations on that theme. I don't need to scold or tell off or issue ultimatums. I am not angry. He knows by my actions that he is on thin ice where I am concerned. He knows I am disappointed and he doesn't like to disappoint. I know better than to think I can change him. He has the history of an incorrigible player, @LARaider85, that is certain. What he hasn't run into is someone who knows how to handle him. I am able to show him who he is like a mirror and I am able to do it without drama. What he does with that information is up to him. He doesn't like some of what he sees in himself. I am kind to him and patient. Whether we continue to see one another or not the experience is growing each of us as people. So we shall see.

All good BeExcellent lol. You know I like you right?

Sounds like your relationship is dysfunctional at the moment. With or without insults.

 

[Urbanyst]

I disagree. But it doesn't surprise me that you would think this.

I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve here with your focus on LMS and labelling guys as blue pill beta etc etc but I feel you should probably just have your own blog and attract like minded people. Unless you enjoy arguing with everyone. You do. Don't you? I have a feeling this is very stimulating for you, based on the frequency with which you start threads and how you bait people into arguing with you.

Why do you care what I'm hoping to achieve?

No one can argue with me unless they choose to. I'm not baiting anyone. Didn't call anyone beta.

Why are you so threatened by the LMS argument? If you're confident in your cartoon world of "game" nothing I say should bother you or threaten you.

Get back on topic.

Thanks.

 

[BeExcellent]

All good BeExcellent lol. You know I like you right?

Sounds like your relationship is dysfunctional at the moment. With or without insults.

It is and it isn't. It's not boring, lol. Both of us have been told by our friends that we are dating an opposite sex version of ourselves. Neither one of us can easily "outplay" the other so that is stimulating and keeps the relationship from getting stale. And we are both complex people who appreciate one another, but we both are able to move on at any time too. This keeps a tension in the relationship that works in our case, but wouldn't work more often than not in a general sense.

I like you too. You have a street smart moxy that is NYC all the way. I appreciate that.

Now. Enough nicey nicey. Back to the ring!

 

[Grit-Persist]

Quote me specifically where I said to be a doormat. Quote me specifically where I even implied it.

Your advice is one that leads folks to be doormats. Your "turn the other cheek" mentality is what can make guys appear to be doormats. A lot of women are a.ssholes today, if you don't put them in their place it could be bad for you. And I'm not saying put them in their place hoping it "straightens them out".....I'm talking about the chicks could see you as a BYTCH and issues could result from that.

 

[BeExcellent]

Try an exercise. If a beta male like Randall Johnson in his AWing GF thread said that, how would you respond? How would the group respond, generally?

There is a whole thread already about how the board responded to Randall. I'm not Randall. I'm not asking the board for advice about things. I'm maintaining self respect and seeing someone I enjoy. No pregnancy, no living together, no plans to marry, none of that. It's premature for all that anyway.

My point in sharing what I shared has everything to do with how ACTION rather than insults (or words) can effectively manage behavior in a relationship. I have withdrawn some of my attention since the other night and I will observe what he does going forward and respond to him appropriately. Now obviously if he doesn't care about me or the situation then he can always flush things and move on. But that is not what he is doing. I'm not worried about losing him although I care for him. If he goes? Then he goes. Seriously. The reason I say that is because if he goes then he doesn't appreciate my value anyway. I pull back because I am mulling over whether or not he is capable of meeting my standards. I am qualifying him.

He knows that the excessive drinking is an issue. He has to fix that for himself. I cannot. He knows that a quality woman is not going to put up with over the top flirting too. Doesn't matter if it's me or another woman. If he says he wants a quality woman he is going to have to learn how to keep one.

So I contend that Randall's situation is not a good correlation.

 

[BeExcellent]

He's an alcoholic manwh-re! Are you saying he's just one of your plates?

Nope. Which is precisely why I am not seeking advice about him on the board. I know the details which inform the situation. So the over-simplification that you state is just that, an over-simplification that misses the mark.

 

[Urbanyst]

There is a whole thread already about how the board responded to Randall. I'm not Randall. I'm not asking the board for advice about things. I'm maintaining self respect and seeing someone I enjoy. No pregnancy, no living together, no plans to marry, none of that. It's premature for all that anyway.

My point in sharing what I shared has everything to do with how ACTION rather than insults (or words) can effectively manage behavior in a relationship. I have withdrawn some of my attention since the other night and I will observe what he does going forward and respond to him appropriately. Now obviously if he doesn't care about me or the situation then he can always flush things and move on. But that is not what he is doing. I'm not worried about losing him although I care for him. If he goes? Then he goes. Seriously. The reason I say that is because if he goes then he doesn't appreciate my value anyway. I pull back because I am mulling over whether or not he is capable of meeting my standards. I am qualifying him.

He knows that the excessive drinking is an issue. He has to fix that for himself. I cannot. He knows that a quality woman is not going to put up with over the top flirting too. Doesn't matter if it's me or another woman. If he says he wants a quality woman he is going to have to learn how to keep one.

So I contend that Randall's situation is not a good correlation.

The important take-away from this post is how women behave when a man doesn't meet her SMV test.

Women don't try to change men who meet their SMV test. When women try to change men.. its because those men are close to meeting her SMV test but are falling short. Since the woman does not have any better options with higher SMV at the time.. she will try to change the man and improve his SMV based on her standards. At the same time, the woman will keep her eyes open for a man with higher SMV. If she finds one, the current guy is toast.

@BeExcellent will stay with this clown until someone better comes along. If no one better comes along, she will continue trying to raise his SMV to meet her standards.

 

[BeExcellent]

The important take-away from this post is how women behave when a man doesn't meet her SMV test.

Women don't try to change men who meet their SMV test. When women try to change men.. its because those men are close to meeting her SMV test but are falling short. Since the woman does not have any better options with higher SMV at the time.. she will try to change the man and improve his SMV based on her standards. At the same time, the woman will keep her eyes open for a man with higher SMV. If she finds one, the current guy is toast.

@BeExcellent will stay with this clown until someone better comes along. If no one better comes along, she will continue trying to raise his SMV to meet her standards.

Actually I have passed over men with higher LMS and SMV in favor of my boyfriend. I like the compatibility we have, the similar backgrounds and beliefs and values, and he suits me in many ways. But because I have other choices in the marketplace who are also high value choices I am not clinging to him. I can do fine with out him. I will meet other and better people. I passed on a very high SMV multimillionaire because of his pet situation, which I found extreme. I have meet a retired MLB player who is handsome and also a millionaire since I have been dating the boyfriend. If I break things off I will probably contact the MLB guy and let him know I am available. I have held him at arm's length although he has contacted me. I passed over a retired pro hockey player for offensive behavior socially. So I'm not afraid to jettison a high value man who doesn't make the cut. Two friends of my boyfriend have expressed interest, one of whom said in front of my boyfriend "Look BF. Don't mess this up. I and any number of other guys would love to date her..." and so forth. So it's not that he's the "best" I can get. It's that his strengths and weaknesses and values and life situation and so forth line up especially well with mine. It's not about SMV, it's about compatibility. But I am only patient to a point.

 

[Urbanyst]

Actually I have passed over men with higher LMS and SMV in favor of my boyfriend. I like the compatibility we have, the similar backgrounds and beliefs and values, and he suits me in many ways. But because I have other choices in the marketplace who are also high value choices I am not clinging to him. I can do fine with out him. I will meet other and better people. I passed on a very high SMV multimillionaire because of his pet situation, which I found extreme. I have meet a retired MLB player who is handsome and also a millionaire since I have been dating the boyfriend. If I break things off I will probably contact the MLB guy and let him know I am available. I have held him at arm's length although he has contacted me. I passed over a retired pro hockey player for offensive behavior socially. So I'm not afraid to jettison a high value man who doesn't make the cut. Two friends of my boyfriend have expressed interest, one of whom said in front of my boyfriend "Look BF. Don't mess this up. I and any number of other guys would love to date her..." and so forth. So it's not that he's the "best" I can get. It's that his strengths and weaknesses and values and life situation and so forth line up especially well with mine. It's not about SMV, it's about compatibility. But I am only patient to a point.

He is the best you can get at the moment.

Your other so called "options" would f*ck you and drop you. And you know it.

That's why you are sticking with the clown you're with now.

For women COMPATIBILITY = Security.

All post-wall women favor security over peak SMV. Because a guy with peak SMV also has "other options" besides you and he will exercise those options after he has his fun.

Nothing gets past me. Don't even try lol.

 

[Spaz]

He is the best you can get at the moment.

Your other so called "options" would f*ck you and drop you. And you know it.

That's why you are sticking with the clown you're with now.

For women COMPATIBILITY = Security.

All post-wall women favor security over peak SMV. Because a guy with peak SMV also has "other options" besides you and he will exercise those options after he has his fun.

Nothing gets past me. Don't even try lol.

Best option for her now is to create/manipulate value, and she'll be "golden" once more in his eyes.

If not he's gonna keep disrespecting her until he totally feels nothing and dumps her for someone younger.

 

[Spaz]

Bingo....have I not been trying to tell you that 99% of the women on this market are retarded? Yes, they have issues! Which is why they will find themselves walking over you, trying to bully you, and talking to you like you're their fvcking 5 year old step child and if you DON'T CHECK her a.ss then you will be miserable.

And when I say CHECK them, I'm not referring to some cartoon "shyt test" or cartoon strategy of "if I insult her she will like me more". No, I'm insulting that bytch and kicking her out of my life! She's only allowed back IN my life if she gets her attitude in check, if not, fvck her. Me insulting a chick isn't some pseudo "strategy" to make her love me more.....you guys are seriously on this cartoon network shyt.



See this is why we can't have real, honest, logical conversations on this board.......because most of you form your arguments based on law of attraction, pseudo new thought movement, emotional bullshyt like this.

First of all, there's NO scientific proof that my thoughts, choices, behaviors, or actions go out into the universe with "secret energies tied to them" and attract to me things that are in alignment. There's NO scientific proof that my POSITIVE thoughts produce POSITIVE RESULTS. Same as negative thoughts or critical thoughts. Absolutely no scientific proof.

So can you stop basing your argument on something that has no basis in logic and reasoning? It would be like you arguing based on a Bible Scripture for goodness sakes.

They have not lived the life yet and as such has only theoretical approach.

But they will. It'll come sooner or later.

 

[AJ84]

youre kidding, right?

urbanyst, nyc street smart moxy?

this whole time i picture him as one of those black nerdy kids that wears glasses and argyle sweaters whose awkward AF in person. i bet about the only street thing about him is his cousin that lives east flatbush

hasnt this clicked with everyone yet?

that his whole shtick is based on his inability to socialize like a normal adult man? we can choose to be anyone we want to be on the internet and even here hes intolerable. theres a reason hes here in the first place despite what hes trying to argue

Yeah so true we can choose to be whoever we want on the Internet. For some reason, some people choose to be the worst versions of themselves.

 

[Urbanyst]

youre kidding, right?

urbanyst, nyc street smart moxy?

this whole time i picture him as one of those black nerdy kids that wears glasses and argyle sweaters whose awkward AF in person. i bet about the only street thing about him is being related to his cousin that lives east flatbush

hasnt this clicked with everyone yet?

that his whole shtick is based on his inability to socialize like a normal adult man? we can choose to be anyone we want to be on the internet and even here hes intolerable. theres a reason hes here in the first place despite what hes trying to argue

LOL.

I love the coping mechanisms of the blue pill CLOWNS on this forum.

Urbanyst says sh*t I don't like and uncovers harsh red pill truth that goes against the cartoon world in my brain. Therefore, Urbanyst must be a loser in real life lol.

Ego protection at its finest.

Truth is I'm good looking. Hit the gym almost every day. My social skills put most people to shame. Which is why I'm so effective at communication on this forum (think about it). I have a nice apartment in NYC.. MONEY.

Don't believe me? Don't care.

Suck it.

Yeah so true we can choose to be whoever we want on the Internet. For some reason, some people choose to be the worst versions of themselves.

The ignore button exists for a reason.

Can't handle red pill truth? Put people on ignore.

Easy.

LOL.

 

[Von]

Definition of insult
intransitive verb
archaic : to behave with pride or arrogance : vaunt
transitive verb
: to treat with insolence, indignity, or contempt : affront; also : to affect offensively or damagingly

• doggerel thatinsults the reader's intelligence

—
insulter
noun
—
insultingly
play \in-ˈsəl-tiŋ-lē\ adverb

....

So insults are just a way to say... someone hurt your ego and you couldn't handle your emotions

 

[BeExcellent]

He is the best you can get at the moment.

Your other so called "options" would f*ck you and drop you.

Not at all. And my BF knows it. He thinks I have more good options than he does. Sure he can go get someone younger, he can get someone prettier. He can't find someone better across the board easily at all. And HE knows it.

Aside from that I screen out the ONS and STR men anyway. Because I won't have sex right away. So those guys fall off early without bedding me.

But people get into habits. Habits take some time to change. Last evening he called me up and took full responsibility for his behavior without any prompting whatsoever from me. He told me it has been many years since he has dated a woman with standards that are like mine (which makes perfect sense because he is used to women falling all over themselves for him and accepting his behavior), and therefore he hasn't had to really take a look at himself in a long while. He said "The solution is that the drinking has to stop. Not because you say so, but because it's not who I am, and I'm not showing up as the man I am when I drink". I agreed with him. So either he will adjust his behavior or he won't. But he knows if he wants me or any other woman my caliber to stick around, he can't behave like that. He has lost quality women in the past for similar behavior. So he recognizes the issue. And the flirting gets out of hand in direct proportion to the amount of alcohol he has consumed. He knows that also. The drinking is the root cause. It's bad for him all around.

So I will observe what he does. And if it works? Cool. And if it doesn't? Then that is fine as well. You can shame me, insult me, and swipe at me all you like. It has utterly no affect on my life and my results, which are doing just fine. I have no complaints and life is good.

 

[Epicurus]

I love every so often visiting this forum and amusing myself. Constant battle of “No look at ME I have the biggest Penis” ahh humans, strange creatures we are. Strange indeed

 

[Grit-Persist]

youre kidding, right?

urbanyst, nyc street smart moxy?

this whole time i picture him as one of those black nerdy kids that wears glasses and argyle sweaters whose awkward AF in person. i bet about the only street thing about him is being related to his cousin that lives east flatbush

Tell you what, how about you both post some pics then lol? Let's eliminate the anonymous B.S. and let's reveal who we are! You guys know who Tenacity is and what he looks like. I posted my Photo Feeler with actual results from women as well, here's another copy below. Let's see your pics!

http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/Tenacity99/slideshow/Tenacity Photo Feeler

we can choose to be anyone we want to be on the internet and even here hes intolerable. theres a reason hes here in the first place despite what hes trying to argue

Well, what's the reason that you are here? And you're right, I don't like the anonymous shyt either.....so I say you BOTH post your pics. Everybody in this thread POST your damn pics as well! DF are you guys hiding for? Use Photo Bucket so your pics won't come up in a Google Search if that's your concern.