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How to treat women if they find you really good looking (help)

mrmuscles2

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You may call me dumb or my problem stupid but its indeed something iam facing daily when talking to women ,i do get a lot of attention i get stares, looks, eye contact, been approached and often complimented, even random women tell me parents that iam really good looking, every new work place i start at women start drifting towards me and i find myself getting to know new girls that i never intended to even to talk to but they made it possible to have that interaction ... even my gf (first one, only dated once) told me once the first thing she ever noticed about me is that i was extremely good looking .

With that being said iam kinda struggling with women, iam cool, laid back, not clingy and have a problem asking twice, if a woman gives me the cold shoulder or puts no effort iam not pursuing her any more, iam also kinda assertive, i did date and go out with women but for the past year i havent been doing well at all, its not working even though iam not doing any mistakes nor faking anything that these women can pick on ... i still get attention i still get interest from women, but the moment i say hi and start chatting them up it feels as if they got what they wanted and start treating me like "Whatever" .

i did do my reasearch and tried understanding this problem more, after all iam confident, assertive, dont run after girls or get manipulated by them yet approach them in a rather smooth and cool manner , what i got was this :

1- they're looking for orbiters and might give me a dating chance after some months
2- they want someone on the side to give them attention and spice up their emotions for their bf that they dont find that attractive yet feel committed to .
3- they are genuinley unsure if its a good idea to be invested or even give anything (sex,relationship) to a guy that can easily get another girl and is wanted by girls .

to be fair a lot of people think i have gfs lined up, and that women are the ones running after me not ther other way around , also i have no place and iam poor af, poor as in my last $ went to my college fee now iam officialy broke and have 100$ left .
 

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Treat them exactly like you would if you weren't attractive, and become a strong conversationalist. My guess is that you bore them. Back when I was inexperienced I had older girls make extremely aggressive approaches towards me (e.g. "You are so hot. I bet you know you're really hot. You can have any girl in here.") and yet I managed to fvck even that up because I had no idea how to keep a conversation going post-college. Also your age doesn't help, I've found that the older I get the stronger the interest level from girls at bars.
 

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Treat them exactly like you would if you weren't attractive, and become a strong conversationalist. My guess is that you bore them. Back when I was inexperienced I had older girls make extremely aggressive approaches towards me (e.g. "You are so hot. I bet you know you're really hot. You can have any girl in here.") and yet I managed to fvck even that up because I had no idea how to keep a conversation going post-college. Also your age doesn't help, I've found that the older I get the stronger the interest level from girls at bars.

Define bore, everyone keeps saying that word but no one explains what i means, does it mean i cant hold a conversation ? because i can and i have, my ex just loved to sit there and listen to me talking she told me once i am interesting to listen to ... if you mean boring in the sexual sense, as in iam not sexual enough, well ... when i talk twice to a girl and never evne been out with her i cant start telling her how hard her nice ass makes me feel, in fact i dont know anyone even hardcore players who say that on day one , i have been very sexual with girls in the past , and wasnt hiding how sexy they or how they make me feel, some liked it some tried avoiding such topics, never really got insulted for being sexual and i get away with a lot of stuff even when i think that i ****ed up .

i got mad at 3 girs once (not the same time lol) one i went out with once and then she started playing games and being distant, the second would threaten to beat my ass (in a joking manner) Whenever i talked about sex even though she did go with the flow sometimes .... such behaviours make me furious, i hate being played liked that so i told them iam not into that BS, **** off and dont talk to me again .... sure i said to myself "maybe i overdid it ... ?" but nope they still talked to me, and became even more attracted .

iam genuinley interested to hear what not being boring sound like cause different people seem to have different versions of it .
 
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This is just a guess but reading between the lines it seems to me that you simply not pushing the trigger when chatting with those chicks. you are just kind of shooting the breeze , chit chatting like you said and they are simply losing internet and leaving. perhaps you are waiting for them to ask you out because you are so good looking?

these girls are giving you signals and "presenting themselves" . but you as a man are still expected to ask them out or escalate the conversation to be more sexual/flirting in nature.
 

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OVER THINKING when it comes to dating is a total waste of your f*cking time.

Remember.. LMS = SMV. Women will date you if they approve of your SMV. That's it!

 

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This is just a guess but reading between the lines it seems to me that you simply not pushing the trigger when chatting with those chicks. you are just kind of shooting the breeze , chit chatting like you said and they are simply losing internet and leaving. perhaps you are waiting for them to ask you out because you are so good looking?

these girls are giving you signals and "presenting themselves" . but you as a man are still expected to ask them out or escalate the conversation to be more sexual/flirting in nature.

3-4 years ago i wouldve said you're right, i had a problem in the past asking women out and facing rejection but i at some point said "f*ck it i have to do this iam the man" and i started chatting up chicks that showed interest in me (many did) to guage their interest and what i should do, on average i would say 7 or 8 out of 10 girls i approach resspond to my approaches, of which almost half are kinda hot and cold ( i find out later they have a bf so thats the reason they acted weird) the other half either say yes or no which to me is great since i can find out if she wants me or not .

for example this girl been showing interest in me for over two mothts turns out shes a friend of my female friend, i went to talk to my friend while she had this girl with her, and the girl started walking with me, we sat somewhere talked, joked around for few hours, messaged for days , i hinted at taking her out and she was more than cool with it (even initiated texting twice ) i throw a "you have a nice body" and she seemed pretty excited about it ... i asked her out a week and a half later (almost always talked during that time , face to face and online) and se was like "yeah sure let me get back to you tomorrow cause i might have something" , next day she messages me that she oveslept and started talking about random stuff and working out and completley avoided mentioning anything about my invitation to hang out not even a "sorry couldnt do it lets do it another time" .... i lost interest and stopped messaging her, she messaged asking what i was doing and i said nothing studying , that was a couple days ago iam done with her , next .
 

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I think you give up too easy. You're thinking that because you look good, that women aren't going to challenge you, and make you work for it, but they will. You have to show persistence with women, no matter how you look
 

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I think you give up too easy. You're thinking that because you look good, that women aren't going to challenge you, and make you work for it, but they will. You have to show persistence with women, no matter how you look

When you message a girl 3 times even if she responds every single time, but she never messages first or initiates anything at all and never reaches out if you dont do it first then its safe to assume she either is playing games or something is going on or she just lost interest .

i will be honest with you i refuse to believe that iam doing anything wrong with women cause iam not, i see guys doing the exact same steps as me and even fu*cking up on some of them yet still manage to work it out with women, but when its me acting like that suddenly iam being **** tested like crazy, iam too broke to be dating anyways, i decided to take a break from women, its not wokring anyways so why bother, i will try again in few years .
 

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You may call me dumb or my problem stupid but its indeed something iam facing daily when talking to women ,i do get a lot of attention i get stares, looks, eye contact, been approached and often complimented, even random women tell me parents that iam really good looking, every new work place i start at women start drifting towards me and i find myself getting to know new girls that i never intended to even to talk to but they made it possible to have that interaction ... even my gf (first one, only dated once) told me once the first thing she ever noticed about me is that i was extremely good looking .

With that being said iam kinda struggling with women, iam cool, laid back, not clingy and have a problem asking twice, if a woman gives me the cold shoulder or puts no effort iam not pursuing her any more, iam also kinda assertive, i did date and go out with women but for the past year i havent been doing well at all, its not working even though iam not doing any mistakes nor faking anything that these women can pick on ... i still get attention i still get interest from women, but the moment i say hi and start chatting them up it feels as if they got what they wanted and start treating me like "Whatever" .

i did do my reasearch and tried understanding this problem more, after all iam confident, assertive, dont run after girls or get manipulated by them yet approach them in a rather smooth and cool manner , what i got was this :

1- they're looking for orbiters and might give me a dating chance after some months
2- they want someone on the side to give them attention and spice up their emotions for their bf that they dont find that attractive yet feel committed to .
3- they are genuinley unsure if its a good idea to be invested or even give anything (sex,relationship) to a guy that can easily get another girl and is wanted by girls .

to be fair a lot of people think i have gfs lined up, and that women are the ones running after me not ther other way around , also i have no place and iam poor af, poor as in my last $ went to my college fee now iam officialy broke and have 100$ left .
Yeah some will ignore u after they see see are interested. Stupid behavior
 

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when i talk twice to a girl and never evne been out with her i cant start telling her how hard her nice ass makes me feel
Try it. You would be surprised. Not going to say it works every time, but it does work. Alot! I'll give some examples of the last few I sent and outcome.

Girl 1:
Context: Talking about kids I mention I have a granddaughter.
Her: Damn, how old are you grandpa?
Me: Old enough to spank your cute, little a$$ if you call me grandpa again.
Outcome: Sexted for awhile and date this weekend.

Girl 2:
Her: Going to the psychiatrist for my anxiety.
Me: You don't need a psychiatrist to tell you that you are crazy, I could have told you that.
Outcome: She wants to come by, when she gets back in town. Think I'll lift weights, then drink some beer instead. She's involved and I'm starting a new job Monday and do not need the drama.

Girl 3:
Told her to send nudes. She ignored.

Girl 4:
Her: Sent me a pic with her eyebrows raised
Me: Told her that her forehead looks like a pack of gummy worms. Then, pulled a little after we cracked up about it.
Outcome: TBD. Told me that she loves the way I break her down and build her up. She's into church and won't have any part of escelating sexual banter, but wants to have dinner though.

Girl 5:
Me: Drunk messaged the first four bars of "Slob on my knob" by 3-6 Mafia.
Her: Drunk messaged the second four bars of "Slob on my knob" by 3-6 Mafia.
Outcome: Sexted for awhile, then partied and fvcked at my place.

Girl 6:
Me: Messaged a chic about her long legs and something about how good they would look like wrapped around me.
Her: Blasted screenshots of the convo on FB.
Outcome: Had to call out a few white knights for playing the caped crusader card and the chicks that brought it up to me said she was an attention hore and that it was ****ing hilarious.

Girl 7:
Me: Told her to get beer and come over.
Outcome: She did. And was boring, so about half way through a case I told her to fix us some leftover food and started playing with her @ss and pvssy, while she was making our plate. Ate and fvcked.

Point being, if they are interested you can get away with just about anything and everything, except boring. Make your mind up and own it. Some situations I may be more suave about it, some situations I am turnt up to 12. Some chics will be receptive, some chics won't. Chances are I never had a chance in the first place, but it sure wasn't because I was boring. I promise you that. Lol.
 
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most women just want an out of shape white guy, they arent into in shape guys anymore, that was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.......every decent chick i see now is dating an out of shape chump provider they can manipulate
 
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most women just want an out of shape white guy, they arent into in shape guys anymore, that was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.......every decent chick i see now is dating an out of shape chump provider they can manipulate
Explain how having muscles is more important than having money.

Which of these 2 things is actually tangibly useful? Which of these 2 things does it take some amount of intelligence to get?
 

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I can relate to your problem and used to pull all types of girls when I didn't think twice if she like me or not. but now like you im in college broke ass hell have no time for dates but can tell girls like me, but i tend to overthink it an not pull the trigger and assume girls dont like me (they seem to be hot and cold). Then months back when i think of the girl i realize, "oh i really think she really did like me". but im focused on school and don't really have the patience for it.

I could be delusional but i think some women put up walls because they are in fact that attracted to me and im a good catch and are afraid to "fall in love" so they want me to be that head over heels over them before they reciprocate. Like one person said i think women want to think they have all the control over you, and i think this has to do with there own fragile ego. But maybe like you, you have a lot of life experience and can sniff out bs a mile away, good looking and in good shape, you might come off as a know it all, and you probley do know a lot and dont have time for bs. This might hurt you because that is what alot of women are bs, just a good time. but they maybe want more. unless she not talking about her bf or messing with another guy and not disrespecting you, but she still talking to you my guess is she still sees something in you. only a theory though.

From my experience the more "hoops" you have to jump though the less a women has to offer besides her legs, but that's a little jaded so dont think to much about that. Because being jaded will kill your spirits and so one.

a guy once said, there's a book on women, but there still writing it. or something like that
 

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Try it. You would be surprised. Not going to say it works every time, but it does work. Alot! I'll give some examples of the last few I sent and outcome.

Girl 1:
Context: Talking about kids I mention I have a granddaughter.
Her: Damn, how old are you grandpa?
Me: Old enough to spank your cute, little a$$ if you call me grandpa again.
Outcome: Sexted for awhile and date this weekend.

Girl 2:
Her: Going to the psychiatrist for my anxiety.
Me: You don't need a psychiatrist to tell you that you are crazy, I could have told you that.
Outcome: She wants to come by, when she gets back in town. Think I'll lift weights, then drink some beer instead. She's involved and I'm starting a new job Monday and do not need the drama.

Girl 3:
Told her to send nudes. She ignored.

Girl 4:
Her: Sent me a pic with her eyebrows raised
Me: Told her that her forehead looks like a pack of gummy worms. Then, pulled a little after we cracked up about it.
Outcome: TBD. Told me that she loves the way I break her down and build her up. She's into church and won't have any part of escelating sexual banter, but wants to have dinner though.

Girl 5:
Me: Drunk messaged the first four bars of "Slob on my knob" by 3-6 Mafia.
Her: Drunk messaged the second four bars of "Slob on my knob" by 3-6 Mafia.
Outcome: Sexted for awhile, then partied and fvcked at my place.

Girl 6:
Me: Messaged a chic about her long legs and something about how good they would look like wrapped around me.
Her: Blasted screenshots of the convo on FB.
Outcome: Had to call out a few white knights for playing the caped crusader card and the chicks that brought it up to me said she was an attention hore and that it was ****ing hilarious.

Girl 7:
Me: Told her to get beer and come over.
Outcome: She did. And was boring, so about half way through a case I told her to fix us some leftover food and started playing with her @ss and pvssy, while she was making our plate. Ate and fvcked.

Point being, if they are interested you can get away with just about anything and everything, except boring. Make your mind up and own it. Some situations I may be more suave about it, some situations I am turnt up to 12. Some chics will be receptive, some chics won't. Chances are I never had a chance in the first place, but it sure wasn't because I was boring. I promise you that. Lol.

pretty interesting and i can understand why that works, i did try it for a while and felt kinda out of place but it does at least give you a clear answer, either she wants something or not, half the the time i used to get at least a date if i threw around words like that and honestly i can be quite smooth and charming when in the right mood, iam good with words, but ever since getting into college and mine isnt a big one i thought ""Well i cant afford to f*Ck this up, if word gets around that i play girls iam screwed" plus iam broke and have no place so thats another issue, planning on getting back to my old game and just flirt with girls without thinking about the consequences, she either likes it or not, either way iam getting my anwer .
 

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I can relate to your problem and used to pull all types of girls when I didn't think twice if she like me or not. but now like you im in college broke ass hell have no time for dates but can tell girls like me, but i tend to overthink it an not pull the trigger and assume girls dont like me (they seem to be hot and cold). Then months back when i think of the girl i realize, "oh i really think she really did like me". but im focused on school and don't really have the patience for it.

I could be delusional but i think some women put up walls because they are in fact that attracted to me and im a good catch and are afraid to "fall in love" so they want me to be that head over heels over them before they reciprocate. Like one person said i think women want to think they have all the control over you, and i think this has to do with there own fragile ego. But maybe like you, you have a lot of life experience and can sniff out bs a mile away, good looking and in good shape, you might come off as a know it all, and you probley do know a lot and dont have time for bs. This might hurt you because that is what alot of women are bs, just a good time. but they maybe want more. unless she not talking about her bf or messing with another guy and not disrespecting you, but she still talking to you my guess is she still sees something in you. only a theory though.

From my experience the more "hoops" you have to jump though the less a women has to offer besides her legs, but that's a little jaded so dont think to much about that. Because being jaded will kill your spirits and so one.

a guy once said, there's a book on women, but there still writing it. or something like that

i can relate a lot to what you just wrote, even though iam no player and havent dated 10 girls at a time i have went out with a lot of girls nad talked to many, and observed many i know when they BS you and i know when they dont and honestly iam not interested in being their toy unless iam getting something, if you want to feel in control and want me to play along cool i have no problem with that but i want something in return .

usually all these girls lose or alteast act like they lost interest a week after talking to me, from their looks its obvious they still like me but from their looks its obvious iam still on their mind so iam not boring obviously lol, but over text they act like they are uninterested and avoid meeting me when i bring it up, so far 2 of these chicks turned out taken !, the rest just string me along and want attention which i dont give, i blunt, i yelled at 3 girls in the past for trying to blame me, but surprisingly they were still interested, even more if i may say .
 
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