Stop talking about up looks, MONEY and status?

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LMS is the primary factor for attraction.

Of course the WALL matters. When a woman's options decline she starts seeking stability over attraction.

You're blue pill if you think women have to be attracted to you to date you lol.

LOL.
The wall is about declining time, not declining options.

You seemingly contradict yourself every post. You do seem to have a nuanced view but you're doing a really poor job of expressing it. And again, you haven't expressed what point you're trying to make. It appears to be that game doesn't do anything but you never really address why, you just continue to make assertions about LMS which most people won't disagree with. The problem is most guys on this site know for a fact that game improves the quality of women in your life.

So I'll ask once more before giving up. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

Also, I'm a big fan of Rollo so you can stop the name calling.
 

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The wall is about declining time, not declining options.

You seemingly contradict yourself every post. You do seem to have a nuanced view but you're doing a really poor job of expressing it. And again, you haven't expressed what point you're trying to make. It appears to be that game doesn't do anything but you never really address why, you just continue to make assertions about LMS which most people won't disagree with. The problem is most guys on this site know for a fact that game improves the quality of women in your life.

So I'll ask once more before giving up. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

Also, I'm a big fan of Rollo so you can stop the name calling.
I'm responding to the stuff in bold.

All the answers you seek lie in this video. Let me know if you have further questions.

 

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I'm responding to the stuff in bold.

All the answers you seek lie in this video. Let me know if you have further questions.

I've watched the video three times. If you can't explain it to me, then you don't understand it yourself.
 

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I've watched the video three times. If you can't explain it to me, then you don't understand it yourself.
I can explain it to you very easily.

The question I have is why do I need to? You have eyes and ears to watch and listen to the video.
 

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I can explain it to you very easily.

The question I have is why do I need to? You have eyes and ears to watch and listen to the video.
Because I clearly don't understand it the way you do. I thought this was a forum for teaching and learning. Why are you posting information you're not willing to help explain to people?
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Because I clearly don't understand it the way you do. I thought this was a forum for teaching and learning. Why are you posting information you're not willing to help explain to people?
What about the video do you not understand?
 

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If you have to spend post after post after post linking the same s***ty videos again and again trying to convince people you have a point, it's indicative that your position has an inch of depth and support and no-one cares.

This is supposed to be a forum about dating, self-improvement and learning how to show women the strength of your personality and character to produce a positive effect.

While no sane man disagree that LMS is a useful sub-tool AFTER you have game and personality, these posts are an active attempt to undermine this common sense in favour of worshipping your car, your looks and your job above absolutely everything else.

I think that's very unhealthy, and I also think these posts are poisonous to the ethos of being a balanced and interesting man.

Yes, LMS will help you to an extent with women. But focusing on it completely and ranting at men who have attractive personalities rather than a fat wallet is just going to turn you into a sad little man who thinks he's entitled to a 10/10 woman because he has a few hundred K in the bank and flash car to make up for a small d*ck.

I'm tired of seeing this aggressive propaganda all over the boards.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Ironic he isn't making 100 similar posts about "**** size, money, status" haha
The most silly thing is literally any man with average looks and good confidence can leave the house wearing cheap clothes and immediately disprove the whole notion that your status and riches are the only important thing by just observing how women react to you.

When women smile at you at the supermarket when you're buying cornflakes dressed in a tatty old coat you just threw on, they're not smiling at you because you're rich and look like El Presidente. It's an invitation from her to come over and impress her with your personality, small talk, masculine presence and humour (i.e. game).

I'd say looks are more akin to game than money or status actually. Money and status fit in a different bracket all by themselves, as an auxiliary tool.

Looks and game go hand in hand. Looks usually open, game closes - sometimes game opens and then a woman notices your looks.

Walking up to a woman and saying "Guess how much I make babe?" will just make her tell you to f*ck off.
 

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At the end of the day:

It's all about POWER.

Who has the power? Who can deliver the power? Who wants the power?

There you get the girl... if she replies: You, You, Me
 

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If it's so simple, explain it.
Do you know what blue pill means?

Too lazy to watch the video? Too bad.

I don't care what you think. The video tells you in plain English why "game" is blue pill. It literally tells you. There is nothing to explain.
 

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You would honestly have to have no friends to think LMS is the end all be all...and I am someone who is does ok on looks alone plenty of times. If this guy has any real experience at all then it is limited to late 20s rat race experience and nothing else. Classic foreveralone finance douche mindset.
Your coping mechanisms and denial is pathetic.

In the end you can't dispute jack sh*t in the videos and your can't prove your points for sh*t.

Go sit in a corner until you can actually provide information that isn't flaming other members.

Thanks.
 

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A lot of "game" is related to LMS. If you're hitting the gym, you're pumping up your looks If you're showing social proof, you're demonstrating your status. If you dress nicely, you're showing your money. Even if you have a IDGAF attitude, you're demonstrating that you have options, which is demonstrating your social status.

Personality can attract women, but if you have a good personality, again you're showing that you have social awareness and likely have social status. It all flows together, if you ask me.
 

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A lot of "game" is related to LMS. If you're hitting the gym, you're pumping up your looks If you're showing social proof, you're demonstrating your status. If you dress nicely, you're showing your money. Even if you have a IDGAF attitude, you're demonstrating that you have options, which is demonstrating your social status.

Personality can attract women, but if you have a good personality, again you're showing that you have social awareness and likely have social status. It all flows together, if you ask me.
Sure.

But none of what you described is "game".

"Game" is nothing more than being FAKE to better appeal to women out of your LMS league.
 

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"Game" is nothing more than being FAKE to better appeal to women out of your LMS league.
What I was trying to say is that a lot of "game" is trying to mimic the behaviors of someone who has L,M, or S.
 

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Absolutely.

Also known as being FAKE.

Lol.
What I was trying to say is that a lot of "game" is trying to mimic the behaviors of someone who has L,M, or S.
Correct, which is why I believe game is cartoon shyt.

- Number one, why would a grown man want to mimic how another grown man acts? I mean isn't that the pure definition of a fvcking LAME lol?

- Number two, why would a grown man fake confidence instead of actually going through the fire and building confidence? Tenacity's confidence with women didn't drop out of the sky or drop out of a PUA book. My confidence today comes from years and years of approaching women....getting rejected....getting numbers...getting dates...getting a.ss....not getting a.ss....and just going through the cycle with woman after woman after woman. REAL confidence is built through the fire.

- Number three, why would any grown man believe another grown man when he says that you can be fat, ugly, and broke, but still fvck Paula Patton if you memorize this "script"? Didn't we all realize that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the WWF wasn't real a long time ago? So why would a grown man believe this cartoon shyt?

- Number four, why would a grown man be caught dead reading any book about "picking up women", instead of spending that time reading the Wallstreet Journal?
 

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- Number four, why would a grown man be caught dead reading any book about "picking up women", instead of spending that time reading the Wallstreet Journal?
The same reason we are on a forum about "picking up women" instead of on the Wall Street Journal website. But you're right, as grown men we don't want to be caught reading this stuff. Which is why I would never put up pictures of myself or my dates on a site like this. I want my privacy.

I don't understand how anyone can engage another human being by following a "script". Apparently in the PUA heydays of Mystery and the like there were guys running around doing this all the time. And at least some of them must have had some success doing it. Any blind squirrel can find a nut, I suppose. Maybe some guys still do this, I don't know.
 
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