Tired of the BS these dating coaches try to tell guys!

[ibew_bro]

Today I received a SoSuave newsletter via email...I searched for it on the site to respond but Im pretty new here so my navigation skills arent the best...Anyway, I received the letter today titled "Women are not attracted to NICE GUYS".. Most of the letter was in reference to David Diangelo's work most of which I agree with. One thing that bothers me is this! " Attraction is not about looks or money"

Sorry but I totally disagree with that and I think its a slimy scam to try and make men believe its true just to sell books or courses..Every man wants to believe they have a shot with every women so that they feel good. Although I do agree that women do not care so much about money, They do care about looks at first just like men do.. These "so called" dating experts say you can be broke, fat, short, and ugly but you will pick up ANY girl you want with their expert advise..Its nothing but a scam!

The harsh truth is, If you look like SH@T and your living on your mothers couch at 35 years old with no job, Women are NOT going to respond to you well... I dont care how confident you are or what magic words you say to them. If you look like SH@T and you have a great career making big money women are not going to respond to you unless they are after your cash..If you look great and you live on your moms couch, The gold digger wont want you because you have no cash and the normal girl wont want you because she doesnt want a bumb in her life...

I'm just tired of constantly reading this BS that is so untrue..Im sure there are plenty of guys being suckered into wasting their time reading nonsense and spending their money on coaching sessions when they should be spending that time and money on making themselves look good because when you look good your odds go up dramatically! Why do you think 25 year olds do not date 60 year olds?..Its not only because of the age gap..A 60 year old man looks like a old man who is not physically attractive to her..I do not care how cool, charming & confident he is! 98% of the time she is not going to find him attractive or want to date him..There are a few rare cases but I think most of those are women with very low self esteem who feel that cant do any better or women who want a sugar daddy. Who wants a women like that anyway?

If you want to pick up there is no magic pill, magic line or way to act that is going to win the heart of anyone..A magic pill or line would be great because its easy and we dont have to work hard! Thats exactly what some of these coaches want you to believe. Why? Because it sells what they are offering.. Its a sales pitch nothing more. They dont want you to believe that you have to be physically attractive because it would contradict what they teach.

I know There are some things some of us just cannot change no matter what..If we arent that tall or the most attractive guy, There is nothing that we can do on that end. But...We can make ourselves more attractive by Getting physically fit, a new better hairstyle and a nice wardrobe..

You can take my advice or you can keep on wasting your time reading and spending money on nonsense that gets no results. From what I have experienced, If a girl is physically attracted to you she will be far more receptive to you then a guy she isnt physically attracted to...I dont care what he says or does...

Now dont get me wrong! Some of the advice is solid. Im talking about the attraction doesnt matter aspect of it..

I knew a bouncer at a local club years ago..Pretty big dude..Not huge, but in really good shape..We would talk a lot when I hung out there and the stories he told me about the women that came up to him were crazy! Ive seen it for myself a few times..

As a little experiment, You should do the same..Go to a club and get friendly with the bouncer and ask him a few questions about the place..Ask him how the women are there and if he met any..Men like to brag about sh@t like that.... See for yourself then come back and tell me its not about physical attraction.

 

[Speculator E]

The harsh truth is, If you look like SH@T and your living on your mothers couch at 35 years old with no job, Women are NOT going to respond to you well... I dont care how confident you are or what magic words you say to them. If you look like SH@T and you have a great career making big money women are not going to respond to you unless they are after your cash..If you look great and you live on your moms couch, The gold digger wont want you because you have no cash and the normal girl wont want you because she doesnt want a bumb in her life...

I agree with you. But most men are the losers and want to believe the scam/lie. So I don't think you'll get any popularity points for this post. But nice post.

 

[Machine10033]

I agree with everything you said! I think being a genuine nice guy is a huge turn on as long as you have your stuff together! I think being overly agreeable and lying to yourself gets sniffed out quickly. I also think playing the alpha jerk card when your inner values don't align is another way to suffer. Guy from my hometown is a personal trainer, makes great money, dresses well, absolutely shredded l... constantly posting stuff on Facebook about being a wolf, a jerk, an azz hole... then he he's a girlfriend and it's a billion pictures of him and her.. every post is about love and then in a few months he's heart broken and back to the jerk.. the truth is be yourself, speak your mind and become your best self... for you!!! Not a female!

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I agree with you. But most men are the losers and want to believe the scam/lie. So I don't think you'll get any popularity points for this post. But nice post.

If you are stupid, if you want to spend lets say 7k USD on Tai Lopez's programs (you could easily acquire free via reddit torrents lol) from a fraud with rented lambos and rented airbnb mansion both of which, he poses as his own, so be it.

If you believe looks do not matter, money doesn't matter, then you are an idiot. It is not the be end all as is, there are pimp fat guys, pimp ugly guys, guys that pull who never seen a gym before. Dudes with baby **** who pull often.

RSDNATION was horrible for spamming the looks don't matter. I remember some black dude under ambiguity username would ebrag and post pics of pulls and long ass posts about being really good looking. There was also a user by the name of JMLUV who was a former Tyler assistant who at best is a 5, pulled quite a bit of babes but, it is later revealed he was rapey, was charged, and had been pulling escorts + posting their nudes as if he was pimp. He has recently blew up on youtube recently. I suspect he gets girls but, I also suspect he is a sociopath.

I admire the second guy more minus being rapey. Pulling above your deviation of SMV is impressive versus pulling 7s when you are a 10.

 

[ibew_bro]

Im glad some guys are able to accept the truth and actually get it! Its a hard pill to swallow but a necessary one in order to better ones self in other ways instead of trying to take shortcuts by spending cash with no results..Sh@t if I could take a pill that would give me a body like Jean claude Van damme back in the day I would do it! If I could learn a line that would get me any babe on the planet I would do it! But the harsh reality is...There isnt a pill or a line! No matter what any "So Called" expert tells you! I think more men need to accept this reality and stop hoping that what these AHOLES are selling actually works..Unless you were born with looks like Brad Pitt and have his bankroll all of us have to put our best foot forward and actually work at being the best versions of ourselves rather than taking the easy way out trying to learn stuff that is BS just because we dont want to work at or spend the time doing things that will actually increase the odds...

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

PERSONALITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This meme is most most important for ugly guys with no money. It's also a useful marketing angle for seduction products as most dudes are ugly and broke.

LOOKS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This meme is perfect for guys with zero personality and are too scared to do the work required to improve it.

SOCIAL STATUS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This meme is perfect for guys who have some kind of status (usually and the money it comes with) who like to brag

OR

This meme is perfect for guys who will never have status and want to use this as an excuse to not play the game.

MONEY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This is for guys who have money and want to brag.

OR

This is for guys who will never have money and want to use this as an excuse to not play the game.

ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT

This is for perfect for guys who got rejected once and never want to try again.

THE MARKET IS BROKEN

This is a perfect meme for guys who are too scared to leave their barstool and walk across the room.

 

[ohrein]

PERSONALITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This meme is most most important for ugly guys with no money. It's also a useful marketing angle for seduction products as most dudes are ugly and broke.

LOOKS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This meme is perfect for guys with zero personality and are too scared to do the work required to improve it.

SOCIAL STATUS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This meme is perfect for guys who have some kind of status (usually and the money it comes with) who like to brag

OR

This meme is perfect for guys who will never have status and want to use this as an excuse to not play the game.

MONEY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

This is for guys who have money and want to brag.

OR

This is for guys who will never have money and want to use this as an excuse to not play the game.

ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT

This is for perfect for guys who got rejected once and never want to try again.

THE MARKET IS BROKEN

This is a perfect meme for guys who are too scared to leave their barstool and walk across the room.

This deserves its own thread in general.

 

[zekko]

Why do you think 25 year olds do not date 60 year olds?..Its not only because of the age gap..A 60 year old man looks like a old man who is not physically attractive to her.

Hey, thanks for the pick me up

Sounds like that article might have been an older one. About 8-10 years ago that "Attraction is not based on looks or money" was the prevailing theme. Everything was supposedly about evolutionary behaviors. Supposedly the women could not help but have their attraction triggered by these masculine behaviors.

 

[sosousage]

Today I received a SoSuave newsletter via email...I searched for it on the site to respond but Im pretty new here so my navigation skills arent the best...Anyway, I received the letter today titled "Women are not attracted to NICE GUYS".. Most of the letter was in reference to David Diangelo's work most of which I agree with. One thing that bothers me is this! " Attraction is not about looks or money"

Sorry but I totally disagree with that and I think its a slimy scam to try and make men believe its true just to sell books or courses..Every man wants to believe they have a shot with every women so that they feel good. Although I do agree that women do not care so much about money, They do care about looks at first just like men do.. These "so called" dating experts say you can be broke, fat, short, and ugly but you will pick up ANY girl you want with their expert advise..Its nothing but a scam!

The harsh truth is, If you look like SH@T and your living on your mothers couch at 35 years old with no job, Women are NOT going to respond to you well... I dont care how confident you are or what magic words you say to them. If you look like SH@T and you have a great career making big money women are not going to respond to you unless they are after your cash..If you look great and you live on your moms couch, The gold digger wont want you because you have no cash and the normal girl wont want you because she doesnt want a bumb in her life...

I'm just tired of constantly reading this BS that is so untrue..Im sure there are plenty of guys being suckered into wasting their time reading nonsense and spending their money on coaching sessions when they should be spending that time and money on making themselves look good because when you look good your odds go up dramatically! Why do you think 25 year olds do not date 60 year olds?..Its not only because of the age gap..A 60 year old man looks like a old man who is not physically attractive to her..I do not care how cool, charming & confident he is! 98% of the time she is not going to find him attractive or want to date him..There are a few rare cases but I think most of those are women with very low self esteem who feel that cant do any better or women who want a sugar daddy. Who wants a women like that anyway?

If you want to pick up there is no magic pill, magic line or way to act that is going to win the heart of anyone..A magic pill or line would be great because its easy and we dont have to work hard! Thats exactly what some of these coaches want you to believe. Why? Because it sells what they are offering.. Its a sales pitch nothing more. They dont want you to believe that you have to be physically attractive because it would contradict what they teach.

I know There are some things some of us just cannot change no matter what..If we arent that tall or the most attractive guy, There is nothing that we can do on that end. But...We can make ourselves more attractive by Getting physically fit, a new better hairstyle and a nice wardrobe..

You can take my advice or you can keep on wasting your time reading and spending money on nonsense that gets no results. From what I have experienced, If a girl is physically attracted to you she will be far more receptive to you then a guy she isnt physically attracted to...I dont care what he says or does...

Now dont get me wrong! Some of the advice is solid. Im talking about the attraction doesnt matter aspect of it..

I knew a bouncer at a local club years ago..Pretty big dude..Not huge, but in really good shape..We would talk a lot when I hung out there and the stories he told me about the women that came up to him were crazy! Ive seen it for myself a few times..

As a little experiment, You should do the same..Go to a club and get friendly with the bouncer and ask him a few questions about the place..Ask him how the women are there and if he met any..Men like to brag about sh@t like that.... See for yourself then come back and tell me its not about physical attraction.

r/theredpill contains only truth

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Today I received a SoSuave newsletter via email...I searched for it on the site to respond but Im pretty new here so my navigation skills arent the best...Anyway, I received the letter today titled "Women are not attracted to NICE GUYS".. Most of the letter was in reference to David Diangelo's work most of which I agree with. One thing that bothers me is this! " Attraction is not about looks or money"

Yeah but, retards are going to retard.

Even on this forum or 99% of pickup forums, cucks are bragging about pulling "left over women." Women who have pissed away their best years.

In terms of game, its the outliers that should be pushed but, if your resources are in question, likely someone is pulling a scam.

Reminds me of that cuck Tai Lopez with his air bnb mansion or rented lambos. Interestingly enough, he is friends with rsdtyler.

WAKE UP IDIOTS!

 

[wifehunter]

Physical attraction is secondary to frame.

You can be the best looking guy on the planet...but, if you carry yourself like a worm, it's all for nothing.

Women will pick an average looking guy with a good frame, over the supermodel dopey douche.

The key phrase is 'full package'.

Real world example: Some women say I could be a supermodel, or that I remind them of James Bond or James Dean. However, I don't see it in the mirror. So, it must be how I ACT.

How you carry yourself translates to looks which is rooted in frame. IOW, frame projection on to your physical self.

A guy, living in his mom's basement, likely doesn't have a good frame. So, therefore, his looks will suffer.

 

[strikerace13]

I've know guy's that weren't the best looking and they could get any girl they wanted by there skill and how they where as a person. If you go into it thinking you can get anyone and you dress nice for the women you will have a better chance then any guy out there.