Would you have done the same?

[derby1]

@LessThanSmooth ....OP is a longstanding member, its like he cant quite accept that theres method in the madness,

i have a mate who chases women round the bloke gets dumped within 8 weeks, cycle continues on another woman

he said to me the other day "How do you always seem to have women after ya Derby1..."?

I explained a few things and said to him that next week i would help him put this into practice

do you know what he did??? He Laughed

He laughed because hes been so conditioned by his mom, the media, Disney , social media and listening to other women, on how you treat women...

So even though his own eyes see me with women...... he wont have it, ......so ill leave him to it.....

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

I explained a few things and said to him that next week i would help him put this into practice

do you know what he did??? He Laughed

Something I've noticed recently is that some people like your friend have egos that preclude them from taking logical advice.

I've played this strategy game with my mate this month and beaten him 18 times in a row. I start giving him tips that would address his problems and his response is "Don't tell me what to do, I know what I'm doing. I'm only losing because *lame excuse that blames MY strategy for being too good*".

He knows what he's doing, but he's lost 18 times in a row. Sure thing bud. Lol.

 

[derby1]

OP take note of this whole convo so you can start to learn

 

[soulforge]

Sure, but it's not "on him" because he wised up and backed out anyway

It's good that he wised up.. We all applaud this.. However what concerned me, was the fact that he initially even entertained the idea, of spending £300 on this LOW quality female..

Hopefully op will learn from this situation, change his mindset & realise, NO amount of puzzy, no matter how hot she is, is worth a mans self respect and integrity.

 

[captain55]

Ok I should of cleared something up here.

1. The plan was to take her somewhere cheap for Valentine’s Day originally or do movies at my place. I asked if she wanted to go to this restaurant by my house (somewhere cheap) for Valentine’s Day and she insisted on going somewhere nice and fancy because it was Valentine’s Day. That is what set me off. Entitlement. Why would I take you to an expensive restaurant if your not my gf and haven’t put out yet?

2. As for me catching feelings holy **** some of you don’t Read and really are retarded. This chick was catching feelings for me and it was pissing me off. She was blowing up my phone constantly at work and making little gestures implying that we are together. Basically the fact that she liked me so much way too soon made me lose interest because that’s usually a sign of a cluster b. Texting me things like “I feel like I’m scared to like you” after one casual date and calling me three times a day is annoying unless you feel the same way about the chick.

Now do you really think I would mind spending $300 on dinner for a girl I was interested in? Of course not. Do you really think I would of said what I said to a chick I was actually interested in? No. Trust me I thought long and hard about what I said. But the only way I was going to bother at this point, was if she was down to do a super cheap date or come straight to house for pizza.

This chick was making me angry/annoyed and I finally snapped. Do I think I could of gotten her in bed with me? Yeah probably but the frustration wasn’t worth it.

She was hot, but also very negative...she would say things like “your always late” when I would be five minutes late to a date. So I would go into the date already annoyed and that’s no fun. She would complain about the food to every place I took her. She would complain about waiters and waitresses.
I didn’t call her back one day she and she said she “didn’t like being neglected”.

Yeah I lost out on a hot chick that really liked me. But It was getting to a point where her negativity was not making it fun for me. This is after only knowing the chick 10 days.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Especially asking questions mid way through a hand job.. not great timing that.

Correct timing is mid-BJ.

"Did you still want to go on that £300 meal?"
"Mmph?"
"Good, I didn't think so. Let's do a movie, one that doesn't have that movie star you were trying to have sex with in it."

(I am of course kidding. I feel a bit mean even posting that as a joke, lol)

 

[marmel75]

Sure, but it's not "on him" because he wised up and backed out anyway

He didn't wise up, he acted desperate and got all up in arms for no reason. He had a chance for a good outcome and now he has no chance of that happening. You'll say OP dodged a bullet. I'll say OP dodged a bullet from a gun he fired and should have never put hinself in this position to have to do this to begin with.

 

[zekko]

But I wasn't about to take a chick out for valentines day on an expensive date spending $300 to MAYBE get sex from her.

You know the PUA definition of "nice guy" is a guy who does something for someone with the expectation of getting something in return, right?

 

[RedScorpion]

Basically the fact that she liked me so much way too soon made me lose interest because that’s usually a sign of a cluster b. Texting me things like “I feel like I’m scared to like you” after one casual date and calling me three times a day is annoying unless you feel the same way about the chick.

...but also very negative...she would say things like “your always late” when I would be five minutes late to a date. So I would go into the date already annoyed and that’s no fun. She would complain about the food to every place I took her. She would complain about waiters and waitresses.
I didn’t call her back one day she and she said she “didn’t like being neglected”.

I'll go against what might be the grain in this thread, but I think you did the correct thing in general (distancing yourself from her). The three things that highlighted it for me was...

Outspoken promiscuity - nonchalant expression of hooking up with someone just for sex. Less about the actual act of doing so, and more about the unawareness of saying so with no forethought on how she's presenting herself. Especially with a new person she doesn't really know well (you). The addition of that he's a celebrity makes it more clear she's keen on status and attempting leapfrogging off that ("I had sex with a celebrity! I'm so important and cool.") - reveals a clear level of shallowness. Who cares about who he is as a person... he's a celebrity. And that's what matters to her.

Second - force feeding emotional connections. The “I feel like I’m scared to like you” is worthless and drama seeking after one date. It seems like a trick when most normal people do not express such concerns even after long periods (and let the trust build up naturally through having more interactions). It's bull****. Either it's true and it's concerning on how fast she says such a thing - or it's false and it's blatant manipulation, to pull on your emotional strings. Both are massive red flags in my opinion.

Third - how she treats everyday people. Such as the waiters and waitresses. This could be taken as a baseline on how she treats and regards people... If she treats someone that she doesn't know with respect and kindness - that is a great positive trait. Treats them like **** and talks behind their back? Something to seriously think about. Because you could definitely be on the receiving end on that treatment. Even seen in the 'didn't like being neglected' part. It's not good.

I'd say I've seen enough key traits to dissuade me from being even casual friends with her. She's not exactly sending off vibes of being normal.

 

[captain55]

It's good that he wised up.. We all applaud this.. However what concerned me, was the fact that he initially even entertained the idea, of spending £300 on this LOW quality female..

Hopefully op will learn from this situation, change his mindset & realise, NO amount of puzzy, no matter how hot she is, is worth a mans self respect and integrity.

To be honest, I would spend $300 on a hot chick I wanted the sex bad enough (assuming she didn’t annoy me even if she’s was low quality) but that’s just me.

I'll go against what might be the grain in this thread, but I think you did the correct thing in general (distancing yourself from her). The three things that highlighted it for me was...

Outspoken promiscuity - nonchalant expression of hooking up with someone just for sex. Less about the actual act of doing so, and more about the unawareness of saying so with no forethought on how she's presenting herself. Especially with a new person she doesn't really know well (you). The addition of that he's a celebrity makes it more clear she's keen on status and attempting leapfrogging off that ("I had sex with a celebrity! I'm so important and cool.") - reveals a clear level of shallowness. Who cares about who he is as a person... he's a celebrity. And that's what matters to her.

Second - force feeding emotional connections. The “I feel like I’m scared to like you” is worthless and drama seeking after one date. It seems like a trick when most normal people do not express such concerns even after long periods (and let the trust build up naturally through having more interactions). It's bull****. Either it's true and it's concerning on how fast she says such a thing - or it's false and it's blatant manipulation, to pull on your emotional strings. Both are massive red flags in my opinion.

Third - how she treats everyday people. Such as the waiters and waitresses. This could be taken as a baseline on how she treats and regards people... If she treats someone that she doesn't know with respect and kindness - that is a great positive trait. Treats them like **** and talks behind their back? Something to seriously think about. Because you could definitely be on the receiving end on that treatment. Even seen in the 'didn't like being neglected' part. It's not good.

I'd say I've seen enough key traits to dissuade me from being even casual friends with her. She's not exactly sending off vibes of being normal.

The second one was big. I felt like she was forcing chemistry instead of letting it happen naturally. I told her flat out I just got out of a ****ed up relationship with a crazy ***** and I’m not trying to rush into anything again, I talk to a lot of women, I go out to clubs a lot......I was hoping she would get the message and be down to just hookup or move on because she wants a long term relationship but for whatever reason it just made her more interested in me.

I didn’t like how she was trying to force the emotional connection when I just wanted to keep things light. Maybe if my interest level was higher it wouldn’t of bothered me but there were a couple
Times where I had to grit my teeth because I wanted to tell her “***** you can’t like me that much we went out twice and you barely know me”

 

[The Duke]

Ok I should of cleared something up here.

This chick was making me angry/annoyed and I finally snapped. Do I think I could of gotten her in bed with me? Yeah probably but the frustration wasn’t worth it.

She was hot, but also very negative...she would say things like “your always late” when I would be five minutes late to a date. So I would go into the date already annoyed and that’s no fun. She would complain about the food to every place I took her. She would complain about waiters and waitresses.
I didn’t call her back one day she and she said she “didn’t like being neglected”.

Yeah I lost out on a hot chick that really liked me. But It was getting to a point where her negativity was not making it fun for me. This is after only knowing the chick 10 days.

Props for rejecting a girl like this. And god bless those poor souls that would have kept entertaining her.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

To be honest, I would spend $300 on a hot chick I wanted the sex bad enough (assuming she didn’t annoy me even if she’s was low quality) but that’s just me.

Maybe you have a far better job than me and it's not much cash to you, but IMO this raises 2 issues.

1. The "faux nice guy" mentality of "if I buy stuff she will owe me" weakens your frame over time and if she's not the sugar-daddy type will actually dissuade her from hooking up with you.

2. How do you even know she'll sleep with you if you buy her this stuff? You might just keep getting "meh" handjobs while she milks you like a big fat cash cow. Maybe not even that. She might just p*ss off to some other guy who spends even more on her.

Not trying to be a d*ck here, just saying. I honestly can't see any positives to allowing girls to suckle on the money udders. I'd far rather be persuasive with my kissing and bed skills than with my wallet.

Also from her behaviour she just sounds like a high maintenance, shallow nightmare. Doesn't matter if a girl is the beauty equivalent of Aphrodite if she's a gold-digging wench who sleeps with any minor celeb who happens to be in the area. In fact, a chick who just sleeps with people because they're famous makes my skin positively crawl.