Upped my fat intake and lowered my carb and protein intake. I lost weight.

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I was eating pretty much the same amount of calories before. But I upped the ratio of fat in my diet for a little while, particularly with dairy fat (especially cheese). What happened was that I lost weight. I lost about 10 lbs in 3 or 4 days. It was honestly hard to gain it back lol. But the thing is my arms actually got bigger lol. Whenever I do this, I always get more athletic too. Not necessarily stronger (although I light a little), but faster and more powerful. I wonder why this is. It’s definitely not water weight because I drank about 3 liters of water yesterday in about an hours and all I felt was the urge to piss it out after haha. But yeah, just something to consider trying for yourself. I heard from some doctor once that eating dairy fat makes your body able to burn fat much more easily so I think that may be why. Thoughts?

 

[Bible_Belt]

I like cheese, but if I eat a lot of it, I get a sour-milk kind of body odor.

Better fats are those from non-animal sources: avocado, olive oil, cashews, nuts, peanut butter, sunflower seeds.

If you consume dairy fat, it is much healthier from non-factory farmed cows that get to graze and eat grass, which contains omega-3, which ends up in the milk. It's the same for chickens, the eggs are much healthier and tastier if the chicken was allowed outside to eat grass and bugs, instead of locked in a cage all of its life.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Thoughts?

You've stumbled upon the Ketogenic diet. Low cards, high fat and adequate protein.

Lots of docs and health scientists are jumping on this bandwagon. Seems to be a bit more than bro-science.

It might even cure cancer:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...lly-supported-therapies-cancer-treatment.aspx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ketogenic-diet-101#section1

Different Types of Ketogenic Diets
There are several versions of the ketogenic diet, including:

• Standard ketogenic diet (SKD): This is a very low-carb, moderate-protein and high-fat diet. It typically contains 75% fat, 20% protein and only 5% carbs (1).
• Cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD): This diet involves periods of higher-carb refeeds, such as 5 ketogenic days followed by 2 high-carb days.
• Targeted ketogenic diet (TKD): This diet allows you to add carbs around workouts.
• High-protein ketogenic diet: This is similar to a standard ketogenic diet, but includes more protein. The ratio is often 60% fat, 35% protein and 5% carbs.

Ketogenic Diets Can Help You Lose Weight
A ketogenic diet is an effective way to lose weight and lower risk factors for disease (8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13).

In fact, research shows that the ketogenic diet is far superior to the recommended low-fat diet(2, 14, 15, 16).

What's more, the diet is so filling that you can lose weight without counting calories or tracking your food (16).

One study found that people on a ketogenic diet lost 2.2 times more weight than those on a calorie-restricted low-fat diet. Triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels also improved (17).

Another study found that participants on the ketogenic diet lost 3 times more weight than those on the Diabetes UK's recommended diet (18).

There are several reasons why a ketogenic diet is superior to a low-fat diet. One is the increased protein intake, which provides numerous benefits (14, 19, 20).

The increased ketones, lowered blood sugar levels and improved insulin sensitivity may also play a key role (21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26).

For more details on the weight loss effects of a ketogenic diet, read this article: A Ketogenic Diet to Lose Weight and Fight Disease.

BOTTOM LINE:A ketogenic diet can help you lose much more weight than a low-fat diet. This often happens without hunger.

 

[Macaframalama]

I was eating pretty much the same amount of calories before. But I upped the ratio of fat in my diet for a little while, particularly with dairy fat (especially cheese). What happened was that I lost weight. I lost about 10 lbs in 3 or 4 days. It was honestly hard to gain it back lol. But the thing is my arms actually got bigger lol. Whenever I do this, I always get more athletic too. Not necessarily stronger (although I light a little), but faster and more powerful. I wonder why this is. It’s definitely not water weight because I drank about 3 liters of water yesterday in about an hours and all I felt was the urge to piss it out after haha. But yeah, just something to consider trying for yourself. I heard from some doctor once that eating dairy fat makes your body able to burn fat much more easily so I think that may be why. Thoughts?

I would say that it's still water weight. That's the norm from what I've read. Never actually tried the low carb approach, but once though. Did you up your salt intake? Have you done any training since? How many carbs a day are you talking in?

 

[guru1000]

Water weight. Low carb/ketones release subcutaneous water stores giving you the illusion of leanness. Once you incorporate your regular carb intake back, you will rebound with water weight that day.

Old news and elementary.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

You've stumbled upon the Ketogenic diet. Low cards, high fat and adequate protein.

Lots of docs and health scientists are jumping on this bandwagon. Seems to be a bit more than bro-science.

It might even cure cancer:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...lly-supported-therapies-cancer-treatment.aspx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ketogenic-diet-101#section1

Different Types of Ketogenic Diets
There are several versions of the ketogenic diet, including:

• Standard ketogenic diet (SKD): This is a very low-carb, moderate-protein and high-fat diet. It typically contains 75% fat, 20% protein and only 5% carbs (1).
• Cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD): This diet involves periods of higher-carb refeeds, such as 5 ketogenic days followed by 2 high-carb days.
• Targeted ketogenic diet (TKD): This diet allows you to add carbs around workouts.
• High-protein ketogenic diet: This is similar to a standard ketogenic diet, but includes more protein. The ratio is often 60% fat, 35% protein and 5% carbs.

Ketogenic Diets Can Help You Lose Weight
A ketogenic diet is an effective way to lose weight and lower risk factors for disease (8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13).

In fact, research shows that the ketogenic diet is far superior to the recommended low-fat diet(2, 14, 15, 16).

What's more, the diet is so filling that you can lose weight without counting calories or tracking your food (16).

One study found that people on a ketogenic diet lost 2.2 times more weight than those on a calorie-restricted low-fat diet. Triglyceride and HDL cholesterol levels also improved (17).

Another study found that participants on the ketogenic diet lost 3 times more weight than those on the Diabetes UK's recommended diet (18).

There are several reasons why a ketogenic diet is superior to a low-fat diet. One is the increased protein intake, which provides numerous benefits (14, 19, 20).

The increased ketones, lowered blood sugar levels and improved insulin sensitivity may also play a key role (21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26).

For more details on the weight loss effects of a ketogenic diet, read this article: A Ketogenic Diet to Lose Weight and Fight Disease.

BOTTOM LINE:A ketogenic diet can help you lose much more weight than a low-fat diet. This often happens without hunger.

Yeah I mean I know that fat is what makes you FEEL full and actually sedates hunger, so maybe I wasn’t taking in as many calories as I thought. But I would have felt a definite difference in strength though.

I would say that it's still water weight. That's the norm from what I've read. Never actually tried the low carb approach, but once though. Did you up your salt intake? Have you done any training since? How many carbs a day are you talking in?

So normally the standard is supposed to be around 50% carbs (preferably whole grain), and then 25% fat and 25% protein. Around there at least. Well I basically replaced the word ‘carbs’ with ‘fat’ lol. So now only 25% carbs and 50% fat instead. Because the fat was mostly from cheese, I guess I did indirectly up my salt intake. Doesn’t that cause fluid retention though? That doesn’t make sense how it’s water weight then. Especially because it was more than 5 lbs. And honestly the days I was doing this, I was just relaxing. No exercise at all, aside from working.

Water weight. Low carb/ketones release subcutaneous water stores giving you the illusion of leanness. Once you incorporate your regular carb intake back, you will rebound with water weight that day.

Old news and elementary.

It took me a lot longer than just 1 day to regain the weight. It wasn’t all water weight. Otherwise I’d have noticed an extreme decrease in strength and may have started hallucinating. Your body can only really shift up or down about 5 lbs in water weight before you start having serious problems. Losing 3% of your weight in water causes a decrease in strength by 19%. I actually got stronger if anything....

 

[Macaframalama]

Yeah I mean I know that fat is what makes you FEEL full and actually sedates hunger, so maybe I wasn’t taking in as many calories as I thought. But I would have felt a definite difference in strength though.

So normally the standard is supposed to be around 50% carbs (preferably whole grain), and then 25% fat and 25% protein. Around there at least. Well I basically replaced the word ‘carbs’ with ‘fat’ lol. So now only 25% carbs and 50% fat instead. Because the fat was mostly from cheese, I guess I did indirectly up my salt intake. Doesn’t that cause fluid retention though? That doesn’t make sense how it’s water weight then. Especially because it was more than 5 lbs. And honestly the days I was doing this, I was just relaxing. No exercise at all, aside from working.

It took me a lot longer than just 1 day to regain the weight. It wasn’t all water weight. Otherwise I’d have noticed an extreme decrease in strength and may have started hallucinating. Your body can only really shift up or down about 5 lbs in water weight before you start having serious problems. Losing 3% of your weight in water causes a decrease in strength by 19%. I actually got stronger if anything....

I weigh 10 pounds less in the morning, than I do at night. This is, before using the restroom also. Always have. I have also set PR's in the gym quite a few times hungover and not fully hydrated, so not sure where you're getting your info from. I would stick to reputable coaches and sources. Paul Carter, Christian Thibadeau, Dave Tate and Mark Bell have some good experience and insight coming from a bodybuilding and powerlifting background if you're into strength sports.

 

[guru1000]

It took me a lot longer than just 1 day to regain the weight. It wasn’t all water weight. Otherwise I’d have noticed an extreme decrease in strength and may have started hallucinating. Your body can only really shift up or down about 5 lbs in water weight before you start having serious problems. Losing 3% of your weight in water causes a decrease in strength by 19%. I actually got stronger if anything....

Mostly subcutaneous water weight, which happens on restricted carbs. When the ketones release, the body shifts to fat as opposed to carbs for fuel, also inciting HGH spikes, which may give you a temporal strength increase if you are fueling with lots of fat.

The diet is not sustainable long-term for serious weight training as carbs supersede fats as the body's primary energy source.

Stronger diet is carb load (Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed) and carb deplete (Thu, Fri, Sat) giving you the best of both worlds: Strength/energy to fuel your workouts without carb cravings, and leanness for the weekend. This diet fluctuation also prevents the body from habituating to the diet.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I weigh 10 pounds less in the morning, than I do at night. This is, before using the restroom also. Always have. I have also set PR's in the gym quite a few times hungover and not fully hydrated, so not sure where you're getting your info from. I would stick to reputable coaches and sources. Paul Carter, Christian Thibadeau, Dave Tate and Mark Bell have some good experience and insight coming from a bodybuilding and powerlifting background if you're into strength sports.

There were a few studies I read several years ago that I just never forgot because I don’t really feel thirst.

Mostly subcutaneous water weight, which happens on restricted carbs. When the ketones release, the body shifts to fat as opposed to carbs for fuel, also inciting HGH spikes, which may give you a temporal strength increase if you are fueling with lots of fat.

The diet is not sustainable long-term for serious weight training as carbs supersede fats as the body's primary energy source.

Stronger diet is carb load (Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed) and carb deplete (Thu, Fri, Sat) giving you the best of both worlds: Strength/energy to fuel your workouts without carb cravings, and leanness for the weekend. This diet fluctuation also prevents the body from habituating to the diet.

Ive felt that it wasn’t good long term either, though I could never explain why. Just what my body was saying I guess. But it’s been almost a week and I still haven’t gained the weight back lol. Yesterday I had 2 liters of cream soda, and about 6 drumstick ice cream cones lol. Also some Chipotle too. I had a ton of carbs yesterday.