The Attention Women are getting is becoming a Vicous Cycle of a Joke

[AttackFormation]

TIME is a major factor also. If a woman can't hold onto a 3% man when she is in her prime (18-24) she has no chance in hell of getting that guy once she is post-wall.

Women approaching the wall lower their standards significantly because they want to reduce the risk of getting dumped or cheated on post-wall. Even if they can still attract a 3% guy, it means less to them if they can't keep him around.

When I entered my 30's and started making good MONEY the dating climate changed for me. Not only loads more options and way more respect.. but also I've experienced a good number desperate women. Something that never happened when I was younger and broker. Very eye opening.

How did/do these "options" materialize? ie. are you now in contact with more women than you were earlier because you now have more of a life, regardless of having more money/whatever. Or is it that you're in the same environments of OLD/office/hobbies/wherever that you've always been, but they now show more interest? How do they get in contact with you?

 

[btownbuck2012]

What game fundamentals are the most valuable in your opinion?

I would say it's broken down into 3 major parts:

1. Knowing how to keep your pipeline filled. Having an abundance mentality can only be achieved when you know how to, and are confident in your ability to meet new women consistently. Most guys don't have the energy or effort to figure this out. Whether it's online dating, your social circle, clubs, cold approaching, etc. Women don't just fall into your lap, at least they never have for me. A common theme amongst chumps is "when the timing's right it'll just happen", thus leading to a over idealized, over hyped view of any particular woman who they happen to, out of sheer luck, spend time with.

2. Knowing how to confidently pursue a woman. A-lot of guys completely eliminate themselves from any consideration whatsoever by their neediness, desperation and lack of experience they exude once they have a woman's number or are talking to her via an app or online dating.

3. Knowing when to walk away. I know for a fact that there are women who will continue to accept dates with you, touch you, make out with you or even once in a while have sex with you but they will never initiate contact or act bratty or sh*t test you continually or harder as things progress, i.e. just plain difficult women or attention *****s. Knowing when to drop a woman is a concept that is beyond foreign to most guys and in line with the point OP was trying to make. It's absurd what guys will put up with when they think they can still get in her pants or when they think she might be the one.

 

[Roober]

This really coincides with a mantra I consistently challenge SS members with... when a woman behaves poorly, a man should first check his part in the poor behavior, and not merely write her off as poor quality, or even worse, BPD...

Leadership is a Masculine traits (not men specifically), while following is a feminine trait.

When the masculine fails to lead, the feminine has to find direction within or from outside sources.

What happens if a...
-General doesn't lead his army?
-QB doesn't lead his team?
-Singer lead the group?
-CEO lead the organization?

CHAOS! Then subsequent failure. Giving women unearned attention is often an expression of gentleness, caring, sweetness, compassion, deference, nurturance, which are all feminine traits.

Fortunately for us, more men embracing their feminine nature leads to more women for us and less poor behavior directed towards us. So, I will repeat...

If a woman expresses poor behavior, check your part first!

 

[jaymbrs]

TIME is a major factor also. If a woman can't hold onto a 3% man when she is in her prime (18-24) she has no chance in hell of getting that guy once she is post-wall.

Women approaching the wall lower their standards significantly because they want to reduce the risk of getting dumped or cheated on post-wall. Even if they can still attract a 3% guy, it means less to them if they can't keep him around.

When I entered my 30's and started making good MONEY the dating climate changed for me. Not only loads more options and way more respect.. but also I've experienced a good number desperate women. Something that never happened when I was younger and broker. Very eye opening.

I just turned 30 and am making more money than I've ever made but I still got laid way more when I lived with a roommate and waited tables. I'm trying to figure out where it all went wrong lol

 

[SuckItUp]

Men Please reread what i have Put I am not on about my Strategy for attracting Women,

Im on about how all this attention is changing womens for the worse, absolute slobs with princess syndrome Havent even got to leave there sofa

Women I used to Chill/Drink with with in Groups now absolute Serious Attention *****s / Self Absorbed / Phone Glued to hand like never before

And? Nobody is disagreeing with you. Sure it sucks, but try to look at it from perspective that women are saving loads of time with their behavior.

 

[Trump]

when a woman behaves poorly, a man should first check his part in the poor behavior, and not merely write her off as poor quality, or even worse, BPD...

If a woman expresses poor behavior, check your part first!

So a man should always act and behave to a woman's satisfaction, otherwise she has a green card to abuse him?

Are you kidding bro?

Men are here to make the world a better place, not to serve women.

 

[skinnyguy]

What’s more likely?

Convincing an entire sex not to give attention to the opposite sex

Or

You electing not to give women attention if they haven’t earned it.

If a woman isn’t worth your time then why worry who is wasting time on her.

This is true. Men won’t stop pedestalizing women.

A lot of women in places like LA get tons of opportunities just for being good looking. A guy, however, has to work for everything he gets. Women have it way too easy. If I were an untalented hot woman, I’d have millions in the bank

 

[Roober]

So a man should always act and behave to a woman's satisfaction, otherwise she has a green card to abuse him?

Are you kidding bro?

Men are here to make the world a better place, not to serve women.

That is not what I said at all.

I did not say men are here to serve women, nor did I say they should behave to a woman's satisfaction.

I stated that a man should check himself first before committing the often misguided subjective fallacy. Introspection is much more difficult than blaming someone else because we have a massive amount of ego preservation at work. When a man drops the ego, looks internally, and thinks about his part in the problem, it can usually (If not always) be identified as a misstep by said man. He either chased pvssy of a low quality woman (his fault) or didn't lead the way a man should lead (a quality a good woman desires).

 

[Roober]

I just turned 30 and am making more money than I've ever made but I still got laid way more when I lived with a roommate and waited tables. I'm trying to figure out where it all went wrong lol

Because you think money will get you women and your living in the past, you haven't calibrated your previous success to your newfound success.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Because you think money will get you women and your living in the past, you haven't calibrated your previous success to your newfound success.

A man should never lead with his wallet. It's best she's attracted to the man.

 

[Urbanyst]

I just turned 30 and am making more money than I've ever made but I still got laid way more when I lived with a roommate and waited tables. I'm trying to figure out where it all went wrong lol

Probably related to your current social life and location. ACCESS is a major factor.

Its hard to replicate a situation like college IRL, but the more MONEY you have the easier that gets.

 

[Urbanyst]

How did/do these "options" materialize? ie. are you now in contact with more women than you were earlier because you now have more of a life, regardless of having more money/whatever. Or is it that you're in the same environments of OLD/office/hobbies/wherever that you've always been, but they now show more interest? How do they get in contact with you?

I use a mix of OLD and cold approach IRL.

My life is more exciting now because I can afford it. MONEY gives you access to people, places, events and situations you won't find yourself in when broke.

 

[Urbanyst]

I think not. When I am chosen for a relationship I'm usually only a little better(often just more stable) than the next few men up, objectively. On the flip side, the person I choose for relationship is usually Worlds Apart better from the next girl up in my crew

The woman is the judge of how much "better" you are than your competition. Not you.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I just turned 30 and am making more money than I've ever made but I still got laid way more when I lived with a roommate and waited tables. I'm trying to figure out where it all went wrong lol

1)age

2)the more money/more age ratio is not optimal

3)social circle

Btw same problem here

 

[sosousage]

The best thing is when you see a casual (or even ugly) fatties getting 200 comments under each photo saying how cute and sexy she is on dating/social sites

 

[Urbanyst]

Wouldnt it be safe to say women have more options than men? Seeing that they have more options, wouldn't it be safe to say they have better options, having a larger pool to draw from?

Except that makes no mathematical sense whatsoever.

High VALUE people have more options than low VALUE people. Gender is irrelevant.

Sure its easier for a woman to get sex. But sex with unattractive men is hardly appealing. Just like its easier to get laid with a fat or ugly woman. But do you want to?

 

[Urbanyst]

Except that makes no mathematical sense whatsoever.

High VALUE people have more options than low VALUE people. Gender is irrelevant.

Sure its easier for a woman to get sex. But sex with unattractive men is hardly appealing. Just like its easier to get laid with a fat or ugly woman. But do you want to?

Women have more options for sex debatably. They don't have more options for LOVE.

 

[sosousage]

Except that makes no mathematical sense whatsoever.

High VALUE people have more options than low VALUE people. Gender is irrelevant.

Sure its easier for a woman to get sex. But sex with unattractive men is hardly appealing. Just like its easier to get laid with a fat or ugly woman. But do you want to?

but according to this rule average looking woman wont be attracted by average looking guy, while average guy would be attracted to her

 

[Roober]

None of those people would ever default to blaming themselves for anything. Self-critcism is part of the analytical process, but you have a clear bias towards it, which makes no sense strategically or especially in today's market.

Starting with self criticism is important. Listen to tom Brady when he loses a game. Does he blame the team or does he talk about how he could improve? If a general leads his army to a complete defeat, does he talk about how they were weak? No, he will first wonder what detail he missed or how he could have improved.

It makes sense in every part of life, especially those dependent on success. How is it any different in our relations with women?

Sometimes it may be out of your control, but proper self criticism will negate most of those occurences. I could list endless examples of this, but quite a limited number that would be contrary to the failure of self criticism. It is why men continue to fail, incompetent incompetence, they don't know what they don't know

 

[Urbanyst]

Not just sex. Wrong again.

Nah, you're wrong.

High VALUE people have more options than low VALUE people. Gender doesn't matter. Only VALUE matters.

If you could explain yourself, I'm sure you would. But then everyone would see how wrong you are much more clearly lol.