Is there any point to this?

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As you know, I've been on the site Seeking Arrangement. I've never done anything other than a one-time visit. Recently, some girl that did porno came over and after she left, she texted me and said she wanted to be my "Sugar Baby" for $300/week. I thought that was a pretty low price for how hot she was, so I agreed. She said she would come over once per week. Next week came, she didn't show up. So I stopped paying, expecting never to hear from her again. She texts me one week later saying she was in jail in Los Angeles because a lot of the models where she stayed were prostitutes. She says she'll come over when she gets back and I even give her a little (less than $100) while she's at the airport. She never comes over.

Point is... This kind of thing will never work. I never would have tried it if I didn't think she was so hot and it was for such a small amount. In fact, I told some other guys this and they all thought it was a good deal (if she would have shown up).

Now as you know, I flip houses. Recently, I met a crew that is very dedicated, works very hard, and wants to work quickly so I can get on to the next house. I no longer have to do any work myself. I can honestly picture myself making $400,000+/year this year or next, and while not having to do any of the time consuming work.

Is that not impressive? Should that not give me a "status" with females seeing as it's probably more impressive than anything they've ever done. Yet I still have to impress them? Why shouldn't they be trying to impress me?

And as far as dating goes, it would just attract girls who want to use me for money? I might as well just go on Backpage.

Purpose of the post is that there's nothing I can do to work on my situation. Please don't tell me that going to the gym will solve my problems.
 

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Money can't buy love. Women will marry you and screw the poolboy, and they shouldn't know how much you make neither, you'll become a magnet for mercenaries. I'm unemployed yet i'm doing fine with women.
 
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Money can't buy love. Women will marry you and screw the poolboy, and they shouldn't know how much you make neither, you'll become a magnet for mercenaries. I'm unemployed yet i'm doing fine with women.
But if I don't use money, it's basically hopeless.

I can't think of any other reason they would want to be involved with me.

But at the same time, I can't really think of anything specifically wrong with me, either.
 

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But if I don't use money, it's basically hopeless.

I can't think of any other reason they would want to be involved with me.

But at the same time, I can't really think of anything specifically wrong with me, either.
Want reasons for someone to be involved with you? Try these:

Workout, work, read books, go on dancing classes, start yoga, rock climb, join a comedy club, join a cooking class, learn to paint, learn to play an instrument, on and on....

I personally workout, i read a lot (want to write in the future), know how to cook, naturally funny, know different languages, tried instruments, tried dancing, did bjj for 5+ years and i'm still 23.
 
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"Why shouldn't they be trying to impress me?"

Were you not willing to put out $300/wk just for a few moments in the sack because she was so good looking?

I'd say she impressed you quite a bit.

This woman can probably do this with at least 3 or 4 guys per day, hauling in roughly 6 grand in a week and about as much as you make per year. Porn pays very well too.

You might make good money for minimal work flipping houses, but she makes good money just for getting laid. If only you could do that, right?
Worst part is... She wasn't even that good in bed. No better than any other girl.

But aside from the one sentence of "why shouldn't they try to impress me?" which may have been a bit exaggerating, what do you think of the rest of the post?

Still you'd have to admit that starting a business is more impressive than being born with a vagina? I respect the guys working for me more than this girl.

Is there just no way to do this without money? Should I allot a "wh0re budget" for myself?

Not all girls are porn stars/prostitutes, etc.

But I think even if I got into a relationship with a "real girl" (non hooker), it would eventually boil down to the same thing.

Common sense would tell me not to use money to get them... But I don't know what else to use.
 

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Patrick, in all sincerity you would be better served spending $300 a week in therapy to deal with your inherent psychological issues than on a hooker. Once you get your own demons under control, the women will come. If your posts are any indication of your interaction with women it is understandable why you experience difficulty establishing a healthy relationship with a non sex worker. Just an aside, if making $400K a year without doing anything was as simple as you claim don't you think those who are experienced and connected in the housing market would be doing it? If it is too good to be true, it probably is....watch your six. Good luck.
 

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But if I don't use money, it's basically hopeless.

I can't think of any other reason they would want to be involved with me.
Richard.... Seriously give the girl chase a rest. You need to figure out things with your life. It is painful to read your threads... because I think we all recognize that you got bigger issues you need to sort out and you either don't recognize that or want to.

Women are never going to be attracted to you if you don't have your head screwed on straight. Take a break... explore and pursue other interests. Find yourself... Get help to do so if you need to.

JMHO.... As a fellow guy.
 
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Richard.... Seriously give the girl chase a rest. You need to figure out things with your life. It is painful to read your threads... because I think we all recognize that you got bigger issues you need to sort out and you either don't recognize that or want to.

Women are never going to be attracted to you if you don't have your head screwed on straight. Take a break... explore and pursue other interests. Find yourself... Get help to do so if you need to.

JMHO.... As a fellow guy.
People overestimate the effectiveness of counselling. Just telling me "I have bigger issues" without being detailed isn't helpful.

I already do many other things and already have explored many other things. I'm never going to be content being celibate, but good thing I have the option of buying hookers.

What are my bigger issues as you see it?

All this house flipping stuff just started a few days ago realistically because I just found crews able and willing to handle the workload.
 
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Patrick, in all sincerity you would be better served spending $300 a week in therapy to deal with your inherent psychological issues than on a hooker. Once you get your own demons under control, the women will come. If your posts are any indication of your interaction with women it is understandable why you experience difficulty establishing a healthy relationship with a non sex worker. Just an aside, if making $400K a year without doing anything was as simple as you claim don't you think those who are experienced and connected in the housing market would be doing it? If it is too good to be true, it probably is....watch your six. Good luck.
I have access to off market listings designed specifically for flippers. I'm as well connected as I need to be. The major barrier to most people that want to do this is lack of access to capital or lack of knowledge of home repair.
 

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As you know, I've been on the site Seeking Arrangement. I've never done anything other than a one-time visit. Recently, some girl that did porno came over and after she left, she texted me and said she wanted to be my "Sugar Baby" for $300/week. I thought that was a pretty low price for how hot she was, so I agreed. She said she would come over once per week. Next week came, she didn't show up. So I stopped paying, expecting never to hear from her again. She texts me one week later saying she was in jail in Los Angeles because a lot of the models where she stayed were prostitutes. She says she'll come over when she gets back and I even give her a little (less than $100) while she's at the airport. She never comes over.

Point is... This kind of thing will never work. I never would have tried it if I didn't think she was so hot and it was for such a small amount. In fact, I told some other guys this and they all thought it was a good deal (if she would have shown up).

Now as you know, I flip houses. Recently, I met a crew that is very dedicated, works very hard, and wants to work quickly so I can get on to the next house. I no longer have to do any work myself. I can honestly picture myself making $400,000+/year this year or next, and while not having to do any of the time consuming work.

Is that not impressive? Should that not give me a "status" with females seeing as it's probably more impressive than anything they've ever done. Yet I still have to impress them? Why shouldn't they be trying to impress me?

And as far as dating goes, it would just attract girls who want to use me for money? I might as well just go on Backpage.

Purpose of the post is that there's nothing I can do to work on my situation. Please don't tell me that going to the gym will solve my problems.

i cant understand how this well doing person in money terms is so terrible with women. you gave 100 USD for nothing. and you pay for sex.


you might be scared to do pick up from streets but there are a lot of tinder pusys on internet dating. Once I upgraded my pictures I am flooded with girls. I was using tinder for nearly 2 years and it never worked but now I am flooded in pusys
 

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And once again, you choose to ignore the essence of what others are trying to tell you. House flipping is not what is important here. It is YOU and the absolute need for professional intervention before you hurt yourself, or more importantly someone else. History tends to repeat itself without adequate recognition and change. But I fear you are not capable of change without outside intervention. I am done. Peace to you.
 
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There are 2 types of women that want a man with money.

One type wants the money. They will hook up with any guy they can stomach just so they can get it and spend it on themselves.

The other type wants the man. These types generally make enough of their own money. They just want a guy with money because of his attributes and lifestyle that matches with theirs.

You're dealing with the first type; the women who just want the money.

Now, if all you want is the sex, then you have a square deal here. Put aside a ***** budget and go on living your life forgetting about your woman problems.

If you want more than that, you have to be more than that. You have to be a man who has more than just a certain dollar value if you want more than just a woman after the money.

Yes, sometimes money is part of the equation all the way around, regardless of what you do. But you are not considering women who bring their own money into the equation. You are always looking at things as if you're the only one who has the money.
I am MUCH MORE than money. But that may be the only thing they care about that I have.

I don't really care if girls have their own money. I barely respect female work. 99% of it can be summed up as "office work" and "working in the a/c."

I think survival should be harder than just getting a degree and getting a job. Which is something I understand that they don't.
 
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And once again, you choose to ignore the essence of what others are trying to tell you. House flipping is not what is important here. It is YOU and the absolute need for professional intervention before you hurt yourself, or more importantly someone else. History tends to repeat itself without adequate recognition and change. But I fear you are not capable of change without outside intervention. I am done. Peace to you.
So what do I tell a counselor?

Some guy on the Internet told me to come here?
 
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i cant understand how this well doing person in money terms is so terrible with women. you gave 100 USD for nothing. and you pay for sex.


you might be scared to do pick up from streets but there are a lot of tinder pusys on internet dating. Once I upgraded my pictures I am flooded with girls. I was using tinder for nearly 2 years and it never worked but now I am flooded in pusys
Well the girls I pay are really hot. Probably way hotter than any girl I would meet on Tinder.

I haven't got around to taking better pictures. I had planned on it. Just been busy.
 

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You don't have to tell them anything. A good therapist will figure out your issues without much difficulty. Are you still on meds? If not, why not, as at one time a professional realized you would benefit from pharmaceutical intervention. Be honest and have an open mind before dismissing the therapist as not being as intelligent as you think you are. As for coming to this forum, it may have been one of the last things you need as it seems to bring out your insecurities with little constructive solutions resulting in continued confrontation.
 
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You don't have to tell them anything. A good therapist will figure out your issues without much difficulty. Are you still on meds? If not, why not, as at one time a professional realized you would benefit from pharmaceutical intervention. Be honest and have an open mind before dismissing the therapist as not being as intelligent as you think you are. As for coming to this forum, it may have been one of the last things you need as it seems to bring out your insecurities with little constructive solutions resulting in continued confrontation.
Not only is this none of your business, but...

I have no symptoms for which medication is necessary. I know way more about this stuff than you do.

They prescribed medication because I fabricated symptoms to evade prosecution.
 

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Money can't buy love. Women will marry you and screw the poolboy, and they shouldn't know how much you make neither, you'll become a magnet for mercenaries. I'm unemployed yet i'm doing fine with women.
Same here, 2 years ago I was on unemployment benefits dead broke and I was dating 3 women at the same time, who spoiled me with dinners, gifts and trips.
At the same time one of my friends owned an extreme good running company and lived in a 800,000 euro house, but was doing horrendous with the ladies, never got dates, never got laid.
Now finally he found the "love of his life" a fat ugly whale of 38.
 
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Same here, 2 years ago I was on unemployment benefits dead broke and I was dating 3 women at the same time, who spoiled me with dinners, gifts and trips.
At the same time one of my friends owned an extreme good running company and lived in a 800,000 euro house, but was doing horrendous with the ladies, never got dates, never got laid.
Now finally he found the "love of his life" a fat ugly whale of 38.
Were your girls hot? Can you prove it?
 

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